F1 2009 Japanese GP
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Mr Robert
Kraftwagen König
BMW///MPower
Precision Pilot
things have changed, read it here:
Formula One news: Grid penalty for Button, Barrichello, Alonso, Sutil and Buemi - GPUpdate.net Formula One
due to neglecting the yellow flag when buemi crashed the grid is totally different now
Formula One news: Grid penalty for Button, Barrichello, Alonso, Sutil and Buemi - GPUpdate.net Formula One
due to neglecting the yellow flag when buemi crashed the grid is totally different now
Bartek S.
Aerodynamic Ace
Japanese GP - Starting grid
1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:32.160
2 Jarno Trulli Toyota 0:00.738
3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 0:00.913
4 Nick HeidfeldBMW 0:01.463
5 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 0:01.498
6 Nico Rosberg Williams 0:00.000
7 Robert Kubica BMW 0:00.859
8 Adrian Sutil Force India 0:00.984
9 Rubens Barrichello Brawn 0:01.178
10 Alguersuari Jaime Toro Rosso no time
11 Jenson Button Brawn 0:01.480
12 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India 0:00.222
13 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren no time
14 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso no time
15 Kazuki Nakajima Williams 0:00.236
16 Romain Grosjean Renault 0:00.591
17 Fernando Alonso Renault 0:00.156
18 Vitantanio Liuzzi Force India 0:00.605
19 Timo Glock Toyota no time
20 Mark Webber Red Bull out
1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:32.160
2 Jarno Trulli Toyota 0:00.738
3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 0:00.913
4 Nick HeidfeldBMW 0:01.463
5 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 0:01.498
6 Nico Rosberg Williams 0:00.000
7 Robert Kubica BMW 0:00.859
8 Adrian Sutil Force India 0:00.984
9 Rubens Barrichello Brawn 0:01.178
10 Alguersuari Jaime Toro Rosso no time
11 Jenson Button Brawn 0:01.480
12 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India 0:00.222
13 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren no time
14 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso no time
15 Kazuki Nakajima Williams 0:00.236
16 Romain Grosjean Renault 0:00.591
17 Fernando Alonso Renault 0:00.156
18 Vitantanio Liuzzi Force India 0:00.605
19 Timo Glock Toyota no time
20 Mark Webber Red Bull out
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Suzuka is such a magnificent and hard track, Vettel is the real deal.
NarutoRamen
Kraftwagen König
But please, do not clumsy crash into people this time!
I'll chock that up to racing incident than a crash. He made a mistake spun out. The only dumb thing he did was to not stop the car, instead he just tried to spin the car the whole way around. As for hitting Heidfeld...c'mon that guy stuck to the racing line while a car was facing the wrong way. Anyone else would've moved over to avoid the crash, Heidfeld stuck to the racing like the stubborn person he is.
Mr Robert
Kraftwagen König
I'll chock that up to racing incident than a crash. He made a mistake spun out. The only dumb thing he did was to not stop the car, instead he just tried to spin the car the whole way around. As for hitting Heidfeld...c'mon that guy stuck to the racing line while a car was facing the wrong way. Anyone else would've moved over to avoid the crash, Heidfeld stuck to the racing like the stubborn person he is.
The way I saw it, Sutil was stationary and then moved into the line... clumsy or inexperienced...
I guess he got carried away...
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
I'm rooting for Vettel to win WDC. Button has been nowhere since Turkey, with the exception of Monza. Other than that he's been a lucky knight with one hell of a car. He's lucky that Vettel has been unlucky with engines, or else the championship would now be in his hands. Vettel is more of a fighter while Button won races earlier this season with little effort.
NarutoRamen
Kraftwagen König
Pause it at 34 seconds. Look at that. The wheel are turned and Heidfeld is right there. You're telling me that SEEING that there is a car backwards on the freaking track, he sticks to the racing line, gets hit and bitches that it's ALL Sutil's fault? Right. Sure, Sutil should've stopped his car until the road was clear, but Heidfeld should've reacted to car backwards car on a track and he didn't.
NarutoRamen
Kraftwagen König
That kov-sutil hit was dumb as hell.
NarutoRamen
Kraftwagen König
For F__ks sake, not another Safety Car.
NarutoRamen
Kraftwagen König
Only one safety car
I thought there would be more cars out of the race.
That's true, it wasn't too bad.
BTW, I must admit, Toyota played it really well with Trulli. It was SO close between Hamilton and Trulli. I thought after the Safety period Hamilton would catch Trulli, but he did.
Imhotep Evil
Torque Titan
Another boring race in a season full of boring races. If Suzuka can't deliver I don't know what can.
And it will probably get worse next year.
F*** FIA, FOM, FOTA the overtaking comitee and so on.
And it will probably get worse next year.
F*** FIA, FOM, FOTA the overtaking comitee and so on.
Bartek S.
Aerodynamic Ace
PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS
The Japanese Grand Prix
Suzuka, Japan;
53 laps; 307.573km;
Weather: Sunny.
Classified:
Pos Driver Team Time
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1h28:20.443
2. Trulli Toyota (B) + 4.877
3. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) + 6.472
4. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) + 7.940
5. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) + 8.793
6. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) + 9.509
7. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) + 10.641
8. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) + 11.474
9. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) + 11.777
10. Alonso Renault (B) + 13.065
11. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) + 13.735
12. Fisichella Ferrari (B) + 14.596
13. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) + 14.959
14. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes (B) + 15.734
15. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) + 17.973
16. Grosjean Renault (B) + 1 lap
17. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) + 2 laps
Fastest lap: Webber, 1:32.569
Not classified/retirements:
Driver Team On lap
Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 58
Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 26
Glock Toyota (B) DNS
World Championship standings, round 15:
Drivers:
1. Button 85
2. Barrichello 71
3. Vettel 69
4. Webber 51.5
5. Raikkonen 45
6. Hamilton 43
7. Rosberg 34.5
8. Trulli 30.5
9. Alonso 26
10. Glock 24
11. Kovalainen 22
12. Massa 22
13. Heidfeld 15
14. Kubica 9
15. Fisichella 8
16. Sutil 5
17. Buemi 3
18. Bourdais 2
Constructors:
1. Brawn-Mercedes 156
2. Red Bull-Renault 120.5
3. Ferrari 67
4. McLaren-Mercedes 65
5. Toyota 54.5
6. Williams-Toyota 34.5
7. Renault 26
8. BMW Sauber 24
9. Force India-Mercedes 13
10. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 5
Remy Zero
M-Power Meister
Frankly, a wayy better race that Singapore. Thing is, FIA has just failed. They banned testing, designed new cars with outrageous wings to help overtaking. Then they allow that stupid double diffusers, which make things come back to square one.
Then, they introduce KERS. It's a whole lot of waste of time and money. We saw how many non KERS cars have soo much of trouble overtaking KERS mounted cars. For me, the FIA should just make it a standard thing. Either everyone races with KERS, or no one uses KERS. Not 4 cars with KERS, and the rest can't overtake.
We all saw the basic cars, Brawns and RedBulls..no KERS, no adjustable wings, and they dominated almost 90% of this year's races. That just shows the FIA has failed in it's bid to make races more interesting, and cost cutting issues.
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