BRZ Frankfurt 2011 then on to LA 2011: SUBARU BRZ Prologue and Concept


The Toyota 86 and the Subaru BRZ are 2+2 sports cars jointly developed by Toyota and Subaru, manufactured at Subaru's Gunma assembly plant.

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Subaru Names All-New Sports Car "SUBARU BRZ"

- FHI to display its Technology Concept at 64th Frankfurt Motor Show -


Tokyo, August 23, 2011 - Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. (FHI), the maker of Subaru automobiles, today announced that Subaru's new rear-wheel drive sports car, which is currently under joint development with Toyota Motor Corporation, will be named "SUBARU BRZ". "BRZ" stands for "Boxer engine", "Rear-wheel drive" and "Zenith" and embodies ultimate passion for the new sports car and confidence in its distinctive trademark and core technology: the "Horizontally-Opposed Subaru Boxer engine". The start of production is planned for spring 2012.

FHI will exhibit the technology concept of the "SUBARU BRZ", named "SUBARU BRZ PROLOGUE - BOXER Sports Car Architecture II - ", at the 64th Frankfurt Motor Show in September 2011. (Press day: September 13 and 14; Open to the public from September 15 through 25, 2011)

A special site will be opened today at 12:00 on the Subaru Global Site.
http://www.subaru-global.com/11frankfurt/teaser/


Under the brand statement "Confidence in Motion", Subaru brand always inspires confidence with customers through its commitment to "engineering excellence". With the core ideal of "engineering excellence", Subaru continues to provide customers with "Enjoyment and Peace of Mind" in all Subaru products.

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So finally a name for this little darling. So far the specs and underpinnings are looking promising for a rather non-expensive car. Will there be a near identical Toyota version of it too?
 
Production version of the Toyota FT-86 is to be seen in December 2011 at Tokio, and production version of the Subaru BRZ is to be seen in March 2012 in Geneva.
 
Both Toyota and Subaru are overhyping this car. This car is by no means an exclusive super-sports car or anything. It has taken them forever just to reveal the name of the car. Don't know what they are thinking.
 
"It's not who you are but who you know." Martin with your Subaru connections can you shed some light on the topic?
 
Ok so don't hold me to this but this is what I've been told:

Subaru (new Boxer engine architecture) FB20-based 4 cylinder, 2.0 litre NA DI petrol, circa 200 hp (140 kW) at unspecified rpm (7000 rpm hinted), sub 200g/km CO2 emissions.
Engine is co-developed with Toyota, no confirmation of rumoured tie-up with Yamaha at this stage of the game.
Engine has been made more compact and is mounted as far back and as low-down as possible affording unmatched low CofG. No turbocharging, only one NA variant.
Toyota-sourced 6 speed manual and automatic transmissions.
Sub 1200 kg dry weight.
Standard OEM brakes (no Brembos).
MacPherson struts upfront; double wishbones at the rear.
According to the Japanese it's a 4 seater but we all know that this means 2+2.

Sure, the Toyobaru or Subayota is being hyped - since when is this a new occurence in the industry - and would you blame them? If that weight figure is honest then this surely has to be one of the most significant "sports car for the people" developments since the MX-5. This is the direction of the future; lighter weight, smaller more efficient engines and greater affordability. This is a modern interpretation of one of the purest sporting car themes but now with the application of a Boxer engine, it's enhanced that much further. Optimal engine placement means excellent front-rear weight distribution and of course, incredible CofG - something unseen at the new car's mooted price point. The combination of the Boxer engine, its front-mid placement and the rear-wheel drive is something that's never been seen before. And, that's worth hyping in my opinion.
 
Boxer engine, front-mid placement, rear-wheel drive has already been seen before: Toyota AE-86, Subaru SVX, and even some other much before: Toyota S800.
 
Toyota AE86: Nope - Inline 4 cylinder 4A-GE engine.
Subaru SVX: Nope - Symmetrical AWD with Boxer engine mounted ahead of the front axle.
Toyota S800: Kinda, yes. If 1962 is what you remember then great. And it was an H2 in any event. ;)
 
Yes, I reported it a while back that the chief engineer said, Akio wanted the FT-86 to have the proper sports car sound following the philosophy of the Lexus LFA, which is why this time Yamaha is mostly involved in the acoustics of the engine. Not so much on the R&D side.

Ok so don't hold me to this but this is what I've been told:

Subaru (new Boxer engine architecture) FB20-based 4 cylinder, 2.0 litre NA DI petrol, circa 200 hp (140 kW) at unspecified rpm (7000 rpm hinted), sub 200g/km CO2 emissions.
Engine is co-developed with Toyota, no confirmation of rumoured tie-up with Yamaha at this stage of the game.
Engine has been made more compact and is mounted as far back and as low-down as possible affording unmatched low CofG. No turbocharging, only one NA variant.
Toyota-sourced 6 speed manual and automatic transmissions.
Sub 1200 kg dry weight.
Standard OEM brakes (no Brembos).
MacPherson struts upfront; double wishbones at the rear.
According to the Japanese it's a 4 seater but we all know that this means 2+2.


Sure, the Toyobaru or Subayota is being hyped - since when is this a new occurence in the industry - and would you blame them? If that weight figure is honest then this surely has to be one of the most significant "sports car for the people" developments since the MX-5. This is the direction of the future; lighter weight, smaller more efficient engines and greater affordability. This is a modern interpretation of one of the purest sporting car themes but now with the application of a Boxer engine, it's enhanced that much further. Optimal engine placement means excellent front-rear weight distribution and of course, incredible CofG - something unseen at the new car's mooted price point. The combination of the Boxer engine, its front-mid placement and the rear-wheel drive is something that's never been seen before. And, that's worth hyping in my opinion.
 
Like I said, we've seen the rumours about Yamaha's involvement but my source could not confirm or deny this.
 
Both Toyota and Subaru are overhyping this car. This car is by no means an exclusive super-sports car or anything. It has taken them forever just to reveal the name of the car. Don't know what they are thinking.

The car is worth the hype. Other than Porsche Boxster. There is no other car in that lower 50k segment with such an exotic configuration. I see this as Toyota's RX8, something attainable for the middle class but special.
 
There is a possiblity of STI version of Subaru. But they denied the turbo, so it could be a NA 2,5l H4. The engine has alot potential, it has easely 220 PS fro mthe 2.0l H4. The Subaru would be able to price its car above the Toyota and so also make it more hard-core especially in the STI version.
 
Well, very disapointing, other than the name, no other info.

Here is the concet at Frankfurt:

 
C&D Prototype drive

Subaru tells its side of the story...

Car and Driver said:
Toyota and Subaru got hitched and then got busy. The first kid is a knockout.

November 2011
BY AARON ROBINSON

Yoshio Hirakawa, Subaru’s senior manager for engineering, looks at me expectantly. My upper lip wears beads of sweat after a mountain-road flog in a prototype of the new front-engine, rear-drive Subaru BRZ sports coupe, a joint venture between Subaru and Toyota with production slated to start next spring. I tell Hirakawa that I’m convinced. I tell him that this car could not have been engineered by Toyota. Nope. No way. He bows deeply.

Subaru called the secret meeting at a golf club in the hills behind Malibu. The internet is afire with rumors that Subaru is “getting a version” of Toyota’s new pseudo-Celica. Subaru sees the situation differently. The company maintains that it did the lion’s share of the engineering and development work on the car, and wounded corporate pride no doubt played a role in our invitation to drive it well in advance of  its production.

We started the day in a windowless room papered with blueprints of a car code-named “AS1,” which will be sold in the U.S. as both the Subaru BRZ and the Scion FR-S, to which we say, “WTF happened to real car names?” Subaru project leader Hirakawa and Toshio Masuda, senior project general manager for product planning, laid out their case: The road map agreed to in April 2008 was for Toyota—which owns 16.2 percent of Subaru’s parent, Fuji Heavy Industries—to do the project planning and styling for the new car, while Subaru would handle engineering, testing, and production. The post-earthquake schedule, pushed back a couple of weeks by the disaster, has the assembly line rolling in May 2012 at Subaru’s build center in Gunma Prefecture, Japan.

To reduce cost, Subaru and Toyota will share nearly identical versions. The common parts bin includes one circa-200-hp, port- and direct-injected flat-four engine; two Aisin six-speed transmissions, including a manual and a conventional automatic; one basic interior; and one set of body stampings and glass. Badges, wheels, and some small trim items will be different. Last year, Toyota decided to sell U.S.-bound cars as Scions, so technically  there will be three iterations of  the AS1, including those sold as Toyotas in foreign markets where Scion doesn’t exist.

But whose car is it really? Senior project general manager Masuda says that only Subaru personnel were in the engineering bullpens and at the test track during the car’s three-year gestation. How often did Toyota check in? “Meetings with Toyota were always necessity based” and not regular, Masuda says, meaning that Toyota did not drive the project from the back seat.

Masuda goes even further to assert that the engineering of the AS1 dictated its styling, rather than vice versa as with most sports cars. Toyota’s designers shaped the body but only after the hard points of the chassis, powertrain, and passenger compartment were fixed by Subaru

“We delivered the best chassis we could,” he says, “and then the styling of  the car was basically [Toyota’s] role.”

We couldn’t see all the exterior details, thanks to heavy masking, but the shape seems fairly pragmatic. The hoodline isn’t terribly low considering there’s a flat-four underneath, and the roof arc and glass area seem generously shaped for passenger headroom and visibility rather than crumpet catching. If the AS1 proves to be less than voluptuous, at least it will be practical.

The cabin décor also lacks flamboyance, but it is nicely detailed with an emphasis on function. The pedals, wheel, and shifter are located in harmonic relationships to each other, with a large dead pedal accepting your idle left foot. Three large circles place a tach accented by silver sweeps in the center of the cluster, with a speedo to the left and fuel/water-temp gauges to the right, all backstopped by an intriguing blue fish-scale pattern.  A big “start” button on the console lights the engine, while simple rotary knobs control the climate settings. It’s hardly installation art, but it isn’t overtly cheapskate, either.

To hold down cost, the AS1 will be welded from plebeian materials: steel, mainly,  except for the aluminum hood. The Impreza-derived suspension consists of coil-over struts in front and a three-link rear suspension, also in steel and with cast-iron knuckles. The Subaru FB20 2.0-liter, four-cylinder boxer uses Toyota’s D4S dual port- and direct-injection technology.

Compared with an Impreza, the AS1’s motor sits 4.7 inches lower and 9.4 inches closer to the center of the car. This down-and-back location essentially precludes all-wheel drive from ever being offered—at least, not with Subaru’s existing transaxles. The two-piece prop shaft runs through a carrier bearing on its way to the differential, which wears a Toyota part number.

There are four seats and power windows but no sunroof. It’s a notchback, not a hatchback, with a trunk that opens to modest cargo space—we’d guess about 8 to 10 cubic feet—with a space-saver spare underneath.

On paper, the AS1 is a relatively straightforward engineering set piece that belies the tough bogeys Subaru set for itself. The target curb weight was 2800 pounds, distributed with a slight bias toward the front axle. Even so, the handling benchmark was the mid-engine Porsche Cayman (which has a 45/55 weight split), and Masuda says the AS1’s center of gravity is 17.7 inches high, one inch lower than a Cayman’s.

The price target was the toughest of them all, says Masuda. The base sticker is expected to land at about $28,000. At that price, the engineering team had to resist the allure of weight-saving materials and turbos. “The goal was to keep it basic and make it a real handling car,” says Masuda. “Horsepower was not our focus. If you want horsepower, we have the STI.”

Masuda acknowledges that the platform will accept more power, but based on our sampling, it doesn’t need it. The BRZ prototype we drove embodies what Masuda and Hirakawa say they were aiming for: a rigid, shake-free platform that translates your driving impulses into instant kinetic action. The prototype felt spry and light-footed, beelining into bends with fingertip control through direct and reactive steering. That is, after deep-biting and progressive brakes have scrubbed excess speed. Both ends of the AS1 stayed stuck in high corner speeds, and when grip eventually overheated into slip, the car oozed gently between states.

The BRZ feels more like a joint venture between Subaru and Lotus than a collaboration with Camrys-By-The-Billions, Ltd.

The FB20 flat-four is said to make “200-plus” horsepower, so figure about 210 to 220 with a power peak that feels like it’s at 6500 rpm. The acceleration rush deflates during the extra thousand revs to the indicated 7500-rpm redline. No doubt because of the direct injection, the flat-four revs far more lustily  than any non-turbo Subaru, but the sound—basically  that of an Evinrude outboard chasing smallmouth bass—is typical for a Subaru flattie.

The six-speed automatic will have three modes: auto, manual, and “temporary manual,” which accepts driver downshifts through the paddles, then returns to auto. Subaru says it’s still fine-tuning the calibrations, but in the prototype we drove, an automatic, there was nothing to complain about in its seamless and well-timed gearchanges.

At this point, the BRZ appears to be the car we’ve been waiting for—the inexpensive, rear-drive sprite the industry has somehow managed to avoid making for generations. It’s the spiritual descendent of the old-school Z, BMW’s 2002, the rear-drive *Celica, and all the other lesser saints of bygone days. How was it that this car hid in Subaru, waiting to be chiseled from inert marble like Michelangelo’s David? Toyota certainly deserves some credit, and probably for more than just being the wealthy patron whose deep pockets helped make it happen.

If  Toyota has its own side to this story, let it be heard. It’s got our attention now.

2013 Subaru BRZ Sports Car - Prototype Drive - Car Reviews - Car and Driver
 
Nice. No "Lexus"-light though that wing is rather unnecessary. Let's hope ricers won't treat the car like a Supra.
 
Ricers will rice...

Well, that wing must go. There has to be a way to build the car right from the beginning.
 

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