Maybach 62/62S Maybach 62 S Landaulet Concept


The Maybach 57 (chassis code W240) and 62 (chassis code V240) were the first automobile models of the Maybach brand since its revival by DaimlerChrysler AG (now Mercedes-Benz Group AG). They are derived from the Mercedes-Benz Maybach concept car presented at the 1997 Tokyo Motor Show. The concept car was based on the Mercedes-Benz W140 S-Class sedan platform, as were the production models. The models ceased production in February 2013 due to continued financial losses for the brand, with sales at one-fifth the level of the profitable Rolls-Royce models.
I love the idea of an open-top limo ...it is very luxurious. The only problem I have with this car is the way the roof looks when it is folded down. Why does the hood have to be visible?; Why wasn't it designed to fold out-of-sight into a compartment behind the rear seats like other Mercedes convertibles? -- it does seem like they took a cheaper alternative which is a pity.

 
It's sorta like the Republicans and Democrats... they hate whatever the other does no matter what. If Rolls Royce had come up with this, the Maybach haters would be cheerleading it as the best thing ever!
It's pathetic. But I guess it's human nature.
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It's sorta like the Republicans and Democrats... they hate whatever the other does no matter what. If Rolls Royce had come up with this, the Maybach haters would be cheerleading it as the best thing ever!
It's pathetic. But I guess it's human nature.
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Well I wouldn't be surprised if Rolls-Royce do make one eventually, they have made them before.

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I love the idea of an open-top limo ...it is very luxurious. The only problem I have with this car is the way the roof looks when it is folded down. Why does the hood have to be visible?; Why wasn't it designed to fold out-of-sight into a compartment behind the rear seats like other Mercedes convertibles? -- it does seem like they took a cheaper alternative which is a pity.

These are exactly my thoughts, it looks cheap and very odd when the roof is down, so that is why I have a photo of the Opel/Holden in my 1st post.
 
Well I like this car a lot, and I have no problem with the way the roof is retracted.

If you look at the Rolls's landaulet, this is what I call a bad job: You clearly see it is a limo cutted, you see where it was cut and it looks terrible.

The Maybach on the contrary, the way the roof is cut is wonderful, it does not look "home-made" like all the other Landaulets. Because You don't see a piece of roof on the front that stops suddenly, obviously cutted here.

The Rolls won't be turned into a Landaulet imo, the alu-spaceframe has not enough rigidity. They already had to do an enormous job to create the LWB, cause the structure is not rigid enough; whereas the Maybach is based on the W140 so it is more rigid than a tank.

Concerning the rear seats, honestly, between a cramped rear seat in a Brookjlands with little space and no blue sky, the Rolls which has not much more space and only two doors..

Also, for the comfort.. it is easy to say "I prefer the Brooklands because I prefer to drive myself", however that does not proove that the rear seats in a Brooklands are a better place to be.
Then you could say hey, the Brooklands is a piece of crap, the CGT is a much better place to be because I like sportscar so I don't give a cent for a big boot like the Brooklands.

Brooklands and Maybach are not the same type of car; the rear seats of the Brooklands are infinitely less comfortable than the Maybach. Period. Less head space, less leg space, less comfort, no folding roof, no doors...

Don't turn it into a "chauffeur car vs driver car".

I'm with Artist: the rear seats of the Maybach Landaulet are the best rear seats in the world.
Proove me wrong, but not with "I prefer to drive myself so the rear space of the Maybach is not the best place to be", this is not the point here. We speak of the rear space here.
 
If you look at the Rolls's landaulet, this is what I call a bad job: You clearly see it is a limo cutted, you see where it was cut and it looks terrible.

The Maybach on the contrary, the way the roof is cut is wonderful, it does not look "home-made" like all the other Landaulets. Because they kept the doors intact, so it is perfectly executed for me.

Of course it's better executed by this Maybach when it's made several decades later with more advanced technology and experience.

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The Rolls won't be turned into a Landaulet imo, the alu-spaceframe has not enough rigidity. They already had to do an enormous job to create the LWB, cause the structure is not rigid enough; whereas the Maybach is based on the W140 so it is more rigid than a tank.

If you have a look at the torsional rigidity thread somewhere in this forum, you will find out the Phantom does have a very high torsional rigidity. It is not that difficult to increase the rigidity of a space frame structure, especially one made with aluminium extrusions. The engineers can always increase the wall thickness of the extrusion (up to a limit) to improve the stiffness of the member. Since the entire space frame is connected together without any sort of welding, the structure is extremely strong because there are no heat affected area in the structure.

I didn't know the Maybach is based on the W140, I always thought it is based on the W220. Does anyone have any idea about this?
 
If you look at the Rolls's landaulet, this is what I call a bad job: You clearly see it is a limo cutted, you see where it was cut and it looks terrible.
Yes, it is not a fantastic job ....it was done by a coachbuilder ..not Rolls-Royce themselves.


coolraoul, I like your taste in cars and you are very passionate with your opinions ...but your last post is not entirely factual -- I have to comment.
The Rolls won't be turned into a Landaulet imo, the alu-spaceframe has not enough rigidity. They already had to do an enormous job to create the LWB, cause the structure is not rigid enough; whereas the Maybach is based on the W140 so it is more rigid than a tank.
Total rubbish. The Phantom is just about the most rigid frame in the entire industry.

Concerning the rear seats, honestly, between a cramped rear seat in a Brookjlands with little space and no blue sky, the Rolls which has not much more space and only two doors..
The rear seats in tht Brooklands are not cramped at all -- it is pretty much as roomy as a standard S class.

Also, for the comfort.. it is easy to say "I prefer the Brooklands because I prefer to drive myself", however that does not proove that the rear seats in a Brooklands are a better place to be.
I am sure the rear seats of the Brooklands are very accommodating.


Brooklands and Maybach are not the same type of car; the rear seats of the Brooklands are infinitely less comfortable than the Maybach. Period. Less head space, less leg space, less comfort, no folding roof, no doors...
I think few people will buy either of these cars based entirely on their levels of comfort-- that is not really the biggest purpose of these cars.

Don't turn it into a "chauffeur car vs driver car".
:t-crazy2: Well you are the one who started a poll comparing the Phantom DHC with this Landaulet.

I'm with Artist: the rear seats of the Maybach Landaulet are the best rear seats in the world.
Proove me wrong, but not with "I prefer to drive myself so the rear space of the Maybach is not the best place to be", this is not the point here. We speak of the rear space here.
I still would rather be in the rear seats of that Phantom VI Landaulette (Rolls-Royce call this type of car a Landaulette) -- the Maybach is very special and very nice ....but doesn't have the same sense of occasion. However, I am sure the rear seats of the Maybach Landaulet would be a wonderful place to be on a warm sunny day.
 
Thanks for the response Rob, it's true that we share a certain taste for some old-fashioned cars...

Concerning the Maybach Landaulet...I was never a fan of Landaulets, with the exception of the W100. But I think this Maybach is really a great car, for me it is worth the name and honours its ancesters. It is much better than the regular, a bit soulless Maybach.

For the Phantom, I rememberd having read somewhere that the space-frame was difficult to modify, so that they needed hard job to make the LWB, but it may be wrong, I don't know.

I would prefer the Maybach Landaulet to the Phantom VI, bad Landaulette (you're right Rolls says Landaulette...) transformation. It is painful to my eyes, such a cutted Phantom VI.
And I much prefers the Phantom V to the VI, anyway :D.

I think a Siver Cloud II Convertible could be perfect...This is what I would take, if I had to take a luxury convertible .:bowdown: I would take it over both Maybach and Drophead...
 
Just for the story, Monster, the Maybach is based on the W140 platform because it can handle with 3tons without problems, whereas the W220 couldn't support it without extensive modifications.

Over-engineering versus weight reduction...
Old-school vs Computer-Aided-Design...

However, lots of the electronics, the dashboard's look and some buttons and the Comand system and the motor-gearbox comes from the W220, and the design too is inspired from the W220.
 
Regarding the roof profile - They're going to build 20 - read, 20 of these blessed things. This is essentially the OEM equivalent of a West-Coast Customs chop-job.

It's wholly unrealistic to expect something more technically accomplished than the solution they arrived on. I'm just happy that the project got the green light in the first place. A surprising and brilliant move on MB's part.
 
When you look at the way WCC works, and how they do their job, you just buy the official model... :eusa_doh:

The roof does not restract in the boot to save luggage space. The MM is made to travel very far in the better possible way, so it needs a giant boot for all the things you want to take with you.
It would be stupid to have to empty the boot if you want to open the roof.

Notice that all the Landaulet(te)s have this type od roof for that reason, excepted the Pope's W140: the Pope does not need luggages in his car, he made the Vow of Poverty :D, and has people taking care of the Church's possessions for him :D.
 
Regarding the roof profile - They're going to build 20 - read, 20 of these blessed things. This is essentially the OEM equivalent of a West-Coast Customs chop-job.

It's wholly unrealistic to expect something more technically accomplished than the solution they arrived on. I'm just happy that the project got the green light in the first place. A surprising and brilliant move on MB's part.
That is a fair point Josh, except for the fact that the Papal W140 was a one-off ....and they managed to do a very tidy job with that -- granted, the landaulet has a longer roof ....but it's not that much longer. It is ironic that this is also the vehicle the Maybach is based on. They should have adapted the roof from the ODC.

 
The problem regarding both Smart and Maybach is that they are totally under and over communicated to their target audiences. Maybach have gone for the corporate excess look finally climaxing in Ghetto fabulous in which I know has turned off prospective buyers in Germany and Switzerland - These are traditionalists - people who have wealth and status but don't want to blemish their status.

BMW do not like the Maybach because the brand is iconic in Germany considering it's past and that the 57 or 62 does nothing to celebrate or communicate that history or tradition. One Rolls-Royce manager thinks it looks like an enlarged Hyundai. I know one thing that the 62 is expensive to manufacturer - Apparently they have to stop production so that bodyshells can be trucked to the plant that builds Mercedes-Benzes Buses so it can be dipped in a special tank as the tanks at the Maybach production line are not big enough for the 62 apparently...

This is my comments from a previous post regarding the Maybach direction.

But is this a time for a car like this though? Whilst people across the planet prefer to hide behind armour plated body panels at these crucial times . Is there anyone who is really going to want one of these? Sitting duck is the term commonly used for someone in a vunerable open position. But I have no doubt they will all be sold.

There is a large ratio of People who have wealth who do not like to be seen and prefer their excess behind closed doors . Again this is just a miscommunication exercise, It is for the people who will go to great lengths to show their excess and crave for attention.

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I do like this car but I would still most likely choose a LWB Phantom over it -- the Phantom is just more fascinating for me.

Both Cars are really great. In all honesty, I would have difficulty choosing between a Maybach 62S and a LWB Phantom. I have always been critical of Maybach ...but it is still a magnificent car. Just for the record, I don't think the Phantom is perfect either -- I think BMW did a wonderful job ...but I still wish it was slightly less brash and more refined and elegant.

Very imposing and stylish but a bit too macho and in-your-face -- it's like a Rottweiler with a diamond-studded collar.


Sleek and sophisticated but also quite bland and unimaginative.
 
Landaulet: Al fresco motoring at its finest


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The combination of tradition and modernity embodied in the Maybach landaulet study, unveiled a couple of days ago, makes this a truly unique vehicle of its time. The highly unusual body shape already defines the car as something quite out of the ordinary. But the unique combination of the fold-back roof at the rear and a solid roof section over the front seats also reflects the fine appreciation of tradition and values that is the hallmark of the Mercedes Benz Cars approach.

Check out the original Landaulets after the break.

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The body of the landaulet harks back to the early days of automotive history. Just a few years after the invention of the automobile by Gottlieb Daimler and Carl Benz in 1886 – working independently of each other – both companies had large numbers of landaulets on the roads. The Mercedes-Benz brand created in 1926 took up the idea, and over the years landaulets based on a range of model were built, both in normal production plants and by prestigious bodybuilders. The last landaulet variant available as a production car was the 600 model (W 100 series) from 1965 until 1981. The company’s in-house special vehicle manufacturing workshops also built three different landaulets for the Vatican in the second half of the 20th century.

Distinctive folding top

The landaulet is one of the true aristocrats among special body designs, and indeed its origins go back to the days of the coachbuilder’s art. Its hallmark is a “rigid, closed passenger compartment with a folding convertible top,” according to the Mercedes-Benz definition. What this means in practice is a folding convertible top over the rear seats, adjacent to a rigid top or solid partition. Depending on the variant, the driver might be out in the open, or – as is usual in today’s bodies of this type – in his own compartment, after the style of a limousine.

In any event, the choice between closed or open-top travel is only available to the passengers in the rear. The qualities of the landaulet as the perfect car for public figures are most evident when the opulent roof is swung back, focusing every eye on the occupants in the rear, and converting the landaulet into a stylish and elegant platform for public appearances. This is why vehicles with this unique body design are used almost exclusively by dignitaries and VIPs. And of course the roof can always be closed again, as protection from the weather or prying glances.

Maybach landaulet study


The Maybach landaulet study was created in response to requests from Maybach customers who still feel the thrill of landaulet vehicles from the days of sumptuously equipped coaches driving through the streets. The car is based on the Maybach 62 S. The C-pillars and roof arches remain in place when the top is pushed back, retaining the luxury limousine’s distinctive silhouette, along with the generously-dimensioned doors, stylish interior compartment and seating arrangements.

When the roof is closed, the convertible top is stretched over the roof frame, providing a tight seal against wind and weather. On the instruction to open the passenger compartment, the driver merely has to press a control on the center console, and the structure, together with the rear window, folds gently down onto the parcel shelf, without any significant loss of stowage space. The opening and closing of the convertible top is an efficient but unhurried process, like a smoothly choreographed dance, taking around 20 seconds to complete. The luggage compartment remains easily accessible even with the roof open. And the driver can cover the retracted top with a stylish leather tarpaulin, concealing the mechanism and restoring the smooth and elegant contours of the vehicle.

Historical Maybach landaulets


In the 1930s there were landaulet versions of several Maybach luxury limousines. In line with normal practice at the time, the body fitted to the chassis could be designed according to the owner’s individual requirements. The most popular models with landaulet customers were the twelve-cylinder Maybach 12, Maybach Zeppelin DS7 and Maybach Zeppelin DS8. The combination of letters and numerals used for the Zeppelin models stood for the V12 engine (double-six, = DS) and the displacement. The Zeppelin DS7, built in 1930 and 1931, had a 150 hp (110 kW) engine with displacement of 6922 cubic centimeters, while its successor, produced from 1931 to 1939, generated 200 hp (147 kW) from a 7922 cubic centimeter engine.

Nor was the circle of Maybach landaulet aficionados restricted to statesmen and captains of industry. There were others for whom maintaining a high public profile was a business necessity, and an automobile that could put its occupants on show like jewels in a display case simply by folding the roof back was clearly ideal for the purpose. For example, in 1930 the Sembach-Krone family commissioned the Erdmann & Rossi bodybuilders’ firm to build a Zeppelin DS7, specifying a burgundy-colored landaulet body, as a management vehicle for the legendary Krone circus. This elegant car with its long folding top is now on show at the Sinsheim Auto and Technology Museum.

Also featured in the Sinsheim collection is a 1938 landaulet version of the Zeppelin DS8 with a top speed of 160 km/h. This body, with a short folding top, was made by Hermann Spohn in Ravensburg. Spohn was the regular bodybuilder for Maybach, located just twenty kilometers away in Friedrichshafen.


Source: BenzInsider.com - The Official Mercedes-Benz Fan Blog » Landaulet: Al fresco motoring at its finest

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With the FL, meaning new bumpers with the same color as the body, and the grille with lots od chromes like the 600, it really looks fabulous...White indicators adds it a more modern touch...

I always found it really good-looking, even if a bit heavy. It is THE Mercedes, typicall. Not as balanced as the W124, not as sleek and elegant as the W126,but really typically Mercedes, and a lot of class when in a good condition, with a dark color.
 
Not really related to this thread, but I think I'm going to get me a W140 at some point. A short-wheelbase 400SE would be nice. Something about the design has me interested again.

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Sounds great Marcus ....I know you have liked that car for some time. I think, in time, the W140 will rightly be regarded as one of the best cars ever built by Mercedes -- it was the last true "old school" Mercedes-Benz.
 

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In November 2014, Daimler announced the revival of the Maybach name as a sub-brand of the Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W222), positioned as an upscale version akin to the more sporty Mercedes-AMG sub-brand.
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