Porsche/VW Saga


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In terms of production numbers Porsche is considered a small player in the auto industry, churning out just under 100,000 cars last year. Volkswagen Group on the other hand is one of the biggest players with the likes of Audi, Bentley and Laborghini under its belt. Despite the size differential, in an odd turn of events Porsche is now on the verge of taking over full control of VW.

Porsche currently holds a 31% stake in VW and at last month’s Frankfurt Motor Show its CEO Wendeling Wiedeking revealed to Automotive News his future plans for both companies. According to Wiedeking, the biggest payoff from the acquisition of VW would be the opportunity for more joint-products. “We want technology and shared investment in new technologies” he explained, “if we can find common components and systems that can be used in Porsche as well as Audis and Bentleys, it would allow all of us to reduce our price position.”

When questioned about what would happen if Porsche was to become a 51% shareholder in VW, Wiedeking explained that it hasn’t been decided and that he already has significant influence in the company because of his position as a supervisory board member. One thing he hopes to see change before any takeover is VW’s fortunes in the U.S., which is exactly what’s happening. VW is undergoing a restructuring plan, which could see it increase output from its Mexico plant as well as the possibility of U.S. production kicking off. The major problem is overcoming the issue of the weak U.S. dollar and local production is the best solution at the moment.

Wiedeking focus instead lies on launching the new Panamera in 2009, which he recently test-drove earlier this year. Apart from boasting that the four-door Porsche was excellent, the only solid info he gave away was that it would be on the market by 2009. Then there’s Porsche’s hybrid technology, which Wiedeking says is not yet ready because a lack of suitable battery technology. Don’t hold your breath waiting for a diesel version either because Porsche has no plans to launch a diesel power model anytime soon.

As for the fate of some of VW Group’s low income earners, – read Bugatti - Wiedeking hinted that there is no room for “hobbies” and that “every brand and every car has to make money.” He concluded the interview by commenting “the name of the game is not to build cars but to make money” and that he’d rather invest in buying up more shares than releasing new products.


Source: Motor Authority » Porsche on verge of VW takeover

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As for the fate of some of VW Group’s low income earners, – read Bugatti - Wiedeking hinted that there is no room for “hobbies” and that “every brand and every car has to make money.” He concluded the interview by commenting “the name of the game is not to build cars but to make money” and that he’d rather invest in buying up more shares than releasing new products.


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So no more similar cars as Piech's toys (Phaeton, Veyron, 1-liter car etc.) I guess... :D
 
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The golden era is now just a souvenir.
 
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Yannis, porsche is very strictly managed and i don't think that current porsches are diluted, making money does not necessairly means dropping quality.
 
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This is a bit ironic it's like seeing Ferrari bying Fiat:D
 
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From Motorauthority:

Porsche likely to buy VW this month


Posted on Monday 15 October 2007

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Volkswagen has a bit of a reputation in the German auto industry as carrying some “bloat”. Workers are paid 20% more than the German average, the company has funded the high-profile but incredibly costly Bugatti Veyron, and remarkably few synergies have been developed with its other automotive divisions such as Audi. Recently appointed VW CEO Martin Winterkorn has been working hard to change some of VW’s ways, but Porsche’s entry as majority shareholder will likely shake things up even more.

An outdated law, known as the “VW Law” has prohibited any entity from holding more than 20% of the voting rights of the Wolfsburg auto maker, no matter how much stock they hold. A decision by the European Court of Justice expected to be issued October 23 will declare that law to be in violation of EU rules. The upshot is that Porsche will be expected to increase its holding of VW stock to 51%, achieving majority ownership and majority voting rights.

Wendelin Wiedeking, Porsche’s CEO, has been turning things around at the premium performance auto maker for the last several years, increasing efficiency and decreasing production and development times. Wiedeking is reportedly looking to use techniques to trim the fat from VW’s corporate bottom line, according to Automotive News. The take-over isn’t without its potential hassles, however. Wiedeking has said that he’ll only allot half the seats on the corporate labor board to VW, despite VW’s 324,000-member labor force dwarfing Porsche’s 12,000 workers. Bernd Osterloh, head of VW’s workers council, said he’d sue Porsche if they went ahead with such a plan.

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Porsche CEO: "We’re All Set To Take Over VW"

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Porsche CEO Wendelin Wiedeking confirmed in an interview he gave to the Sunday Times (Oct 14, 2007) that his company is prepared to take control of VW, if Germany’s so-called “Volkswagen law” is ruled illegal next week (October 23) by the European Court of Justice.

“I believe they will write it off. And if they do, we will look at what makes sense,” Wiedeking told Sunday Times. “We already have a lot of options to purchase shares at less than their current price. We are prepared.”

Germany’s so-called ‘Volkswagen law’, was introduced to guard against hostile takeover when the present company was transferred to German control by the British after the second world war. The law prevents any one shareholder from exercising more than 20% of the voting rights and gives both the federal government and the state of Lower Saxony the right to two seats on Volkswagen’s supervisory board.

Porsche's intentions became more than clear when in March, 2007, the company acquired a 31% stake in Volkswagen, the world’s fourth-largest carmaker. And the outcome was more than positive as Wiedeking smugly pointed out in his interview to the Sunday Times: “We paid €5 billion for 31% of Volkswagen and now that stake is worth €16-€17 billion. Not a bad investment, eh?”. You're damn right...

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Hmm

Not impressed by the "name of the game is not to make cars, but make money" bit earlier on.

Sounds like they're adopting a Toyota Corp business model.

Shame. :eusa_doh:

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Porsche acquisition of VW shares akin to a hostile takeover
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In terms of production numbers Porsche is considered a small player in the auto industry, churning out around 100,000 cars per year. Volkswagen Group on the other hand is one of the biggest players with the likes of Audi, Bentley and Laborghini under its belt and whose production numbers run into the millions. Despite the size differential, in an odd turn of events Porsche is on the verge of taking over full control of VW. The sports carmaker already owns a 31% stake in VW and CEO Wendeling Wiedeking has openly admitted to much bigger plans for cooperation and many fear it could eventuate into a full blown hostile takeover.

Whether this turns out to be a full on takeover is still up in the air but according to VW union boss Bernd Osterloh the decision has already been made and it looks like it’s in favor or Porsche. Speaking in front of a gathering of VW workers, Osterloh said Porsche’s acquisition of VW shares is increasingly becoming a “hostile takeover,” reports Thomson Financial.
Osterloh gave an example of the recent formation of the Porsche Automobilholding holding company, which will control both Porsche and VW. “I mean it has to be really called ‘Volkswagen and Porsche Automobilholding’,” he commented. The VW union is unhappy Porsche will have several members on the holding company supervisory board despite only employing about 5,000 employees. They argue VW should have more board members since it employs tens of thousands of staff. Unfortunately, it appears as though their claims are falling on deaf ears.
 
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wow, im surprised. I wasnt aware Porsche had the punch to actually buy out VW. The repercussions are definitely going to be interesting.
 
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hold on on the forum it says there gonna take it for 52% is it 52% or 100% of the company VW
 
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Yup, looks like it:


Porsche Board Backs Plan to Raise Volkswagen Stake​

By Chad Thomas

March 3 (Bloomberg) -- Porsche SE, maker of the 911 sports car, said its board has given approval to raise the automaker's stake in Volkswagen AG to more than 50 percent as it seeks greater control over Europe's largest carmaker.

``Our aim is to create one of the strongest and most innovative automobile alliances in the world, which is able to measure up to the increased international competition,'' Porsche Chief Executive Officer Wendelin Wiedeking said in a statement today. Porsche said it has no plans to merge the two carmakers.

Porsche is already the biggest shareholder in Wolfsburg, Germany-based Volkswagen, with a 31 percent stake. Wiedeking, who says his carmaker holds options enabling it to increase its Volkswagen stake significantly, has said there will be ``no sacred cows'' at VW as he seeks to boost profitability and quality. Porsche topped J.D. Power & Associates' 2007 initial car-quality survey, while Volkswagen was fifth from the bottom.

Porsche last year made a low-ball bid for all of Volkswagen, which few shareholders accepted, which means the Stuttgart, Germany-based carmaker can now raise its stake without making the offer to all shareholders.

``The supervisory body authorized the managing board to initiate all steps needed under regulatory and antitrust laws throughout the world'' to increase the holding, Porsche said in today's statement.

Battle With Leaders

The sports-car maker is locked in a battle with Volkswagen's labor leaders over the allocation of worker seats on Porsche's board and legal protections of labor representatives' veto powers at Volkswagen.

Porsche opposes draft legislation in Germany's parliament that would maintain the rights of labor leaders and the state of Lower Saxony to block major decisions, such as factory closures, at Wolfsburg, Germany-based Volkswagen. Bernd Osterloh, the head of Volkswagen's works council, lashed out on Feb. 26 against Porsche, saying its approach is ``slowly turning into a hostile takeover.''

The draft law is in response to a ruling by Europe's highest court last October ordering Germany to either completely scrap the so-called Volkswagen Law, which governed corporate policy at the company, or come up with an alternative.

Porsche has questioned why Volkswagen needs any special protection.

The law's new version would drop a provision that limited shareholders' voting rights to match those of Lower Saxony, which holds about a 20 percent stake. Even so, the proposal would retain a ``blocking minority'' on major decisions for anyone with a 20 percent holding. That's less than the 25 percent investors in other German companies must hold to veto significant changes.

The draft law also keeps a provision requiring two-thirds of the supervisory board to sign off on decisions such as job cuts and factory closings. Worker representatives hold half the seats on the supervisory board, similar to a U.S. company's board of directors, meaning they can effectively block any such move.



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So is this a good thing or not? :eusa_thin:D
 

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