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2018 Nissan GT-R: seven things we know so far
2018 Nissan GT-R: seven things we know so far
As Nissan gives us a shot in its daft 600bhp Juke-R, here's what's in store for the next-gen GT-R
We’ve just had a punt in Nissan’s Juke-R 2.0, the dinky crossover with the guts of a GT-R. But what’s in store for the next generation of Godzilla itself?
There’s a lot riding on the Nissan GT-R, not least the hopes, dreams and digital screams of a million internet Skyline enthusiasts for whom the arrival of each new generation represents the Second Coming. Only noisier.
Which is why Nissan is already furiously beavering away on the next GT-R, on its way in 2018 and featuring a raft of technological updates that’ll probably be sufficient to send it TO THE MOON.
Top Gear has gleaned a few vital bits of information about the next-generation GT-R, and if Nissan stays true to its word, it promises to be something really quite special…
Nissan hasn't confirmed anything yet, but it sure sounds like the R36 GT-R will be a hybrid.
Rumors of hybridization for the next-generation Nissan GT-R have been floating around for a few years now, and while nothing is confirmed yet, a hybrid GT-R feels inevitable. With the facelifted 2017 GT-R (pictured above) unveiled, Nissan has turned its attention to the R35's successor that'sset to debut in 2020.
Nissan chief creative officer Shiro Nakamura told Automotive News that work is underway on making a more fuel efficient, better proportioned GT-R, in an interview published Monday. Nakamura-san dropped very strong hints that the R36 GT-R will be a hybrid because Nissan wants to boost efficiency and performance over the current car.
"Electrification is almost inevitable for any car," said Nakamura-san. "If the next-generation GT-R has some electrification, nobody would be surprised at that time."
It's not difficult to imagine Nissan taking a similar approach as McLaren with its P1, which uses a torquey electric motor to compensate for the lag of its heavily turbocharged V8. It's also worth noting that the GT-Rs chief Japanese rival, the Acura NSX, has embraced hybridization.
Nakamura-san also says the next GT-R will look fairly different than its predecessor, all in the service of better performance.
"I think we can change to better proportions–the width, the height," said Nakamura-san. "Anything that we change on this car will contribute to better performance, better aero."
There is still a chance the next GT-R won't be a hybrid, but we'd frankly be surprised if that were the case. We'll know for sure in around three years or so, if not sooner.
Nissan bosses will no doubt be paying attention to similar battery cooling issues with new hybrid systems on this year’s F1 cars.
As our insider pointed out, “that is why the styling of the new GT-R will have to be so radically different. It’ll have to be penned to enable much more efficient cooling for the hybrid system as well as more efficient aerodynamics.” That’s where the company’s collaboration with Williams comes in handy.
While the F1 team is not adept at producing road cars, it does have state-of-the-art wind tunnel facilities to design the very best aeroparts (the outfit was consulted to develop the Nismo GT-R’s aero package) and it can offer development help for next-generation hybrid systems currently being used in F1.
We’re hearing Nissan could share this technology with Infiniti or even Mercedes-Benz, but from what we could gather, the company will not share this high performance racing technology for the road with anyone.
Our source also says that the VR37DETT engine being considered by Infiniti for a Porsche Panerama rival will not be used in the next GT-R.
All active
Nismo’s current ties with Williams F1 could see the UK firm have a significant influence on aerodynamics. A carbon adjustable wing with DRS-style activation could feature. This year’s Nismo GT-R Le Mans will debut solid hints to the production version.
New form
GT-R to become a strict two-seater in a bid to shrink dimensions and save weight. Target is an ambitious 1500kg, despite the added heft of various hybrid systems.
Gear solid
Nissan’s current drivetrain layout (front mounted V6, rear transaxle, all-wheel drive) will remain, but hybrid’s potential will call for a stronger version of the dual-clutch transmission that was built for the R35. Word is it will use eight gears.
To the max
Considering the GT-R’s VR38DETT was introduced in the current R35 it’s hard to imagine Nissan will develop a new unit. Good news is the engine still has plenty of potential left in it and the Nismo’s GT-R 441kW could be upped to 478kW.
And all up?
Even if the hybrid system is only able to add 100kW it would satisfy the projected target of 578kW. Torque is expect to rocket, though, with twist suggested to reach somewhere around 1000Nm.
Zap it good
It’s public knowledge Williams is working with Nissan on electrification products while at the same time Nissan has trademarked the ‘R Hybrid’ name for its performance hybrid models.
Nissan R36 GT-R: what we know about it | MOTOR
2018 Nissan GT-R: seven things we know so far
2018 Nissan GT-R: seven things we know so far
As Nissan gives us a shot in its daft 600bhp Juke-R, here's what's in store for the next-gen GT-R
We’ve just had a punt in Nissan’s Juke-R 2.0, the dinky crossover with the guts of a GT-R. But what’s in store for the next generation of Godzilla itself?
There’s a lot riding on the Nissan GT-R, not least the hopes, dreams and digital screams of a million internet Skyline enthusiasts for whom the arrival of each new generation represents the Second Coming. Only noisier.
Which is why Nissan is already furiously beavering away on the next GT-R, on its way in 2018 and featuring a raft of technological updates that’ll probably be sufficient to send it TO THE MOON.
Top Gear has gleaned a few vital bits of information about the next-generation GT-R, and if Nissan stays true to its word, it promises to be something really quite special…
- It will use the engine from Nissan's 2015 Le Mans racer
Speaking to TopGear.com, Ben Bowlby - Nissan’s creative genius behind the LMP1 GT-R and the DeltaWing - confirmed that the new GT-R would feature an iteration of the twin-turbo V6 powering the company’s Le Mans entrant.
“The 3.0-litre V6 [from the LMP1 car] is a sort of god-child of the true, road-going GT-R,” he said, noting that the unit’s direction injection, turbo integration and combustion technology are all ‘applicable to the road’.
“It is truly an early ancestor of what will be a future Nissan GT-R engine,” he added.
In its current, Le Mans-spec form, that new 3.0-litre V6 revs to around 6,500rpm and produces over 550bhp. Considering the current Nismo GT-R produces 600bhp, and taking into account the GT-R’s rate of improvement, we’d expect the new, ‘R36’ GT-R to produce at least this much, if not more.
The V6 will be slotted up front, just like before, and matched to a dual-clutch automatic gearbox. “Mizuno-san [the ‘father’ of the GT-R] says the GT-R will always be a front-engined, 2+2-seater coupe,” said Shiro Nakamura, Nissan’s chief creative officer.
Read the full story on the new GT-R’s engine
- It'll get electric assistance, too
“It will be a hybrid.” That’s straight from the mouth of Nakamura-san.
So, allied to that twin-turbo V6, we’ll also get some form of electric propulsion and battery pack, too. Nissan GB’s sports car chief, James Oliver, reckons Nissan’s expertise in electric technology forms a good base for the new Godzilla.
“I think a GT-R hybrid is the obvious direction,” he said. “There’s been obsessive development of the GT-R over the years, and at some point we will move onto the next generation car.
“We already have great capability in terms of battery production and electric vehicle technology, so I don’t think it’s a great stretch to think a future performance product would have some of that tech incorporated into it…”
Nissan’s LMP1 car: “it went off like a bomb”
- It will take design inspiration from the excellent Vision Gran Turismo concept
Though Nissan’s creative chief stated last year that online renderings of the ‘next GT-R’ were way off the mark, the Vision GT concept built for Gran Turismo is probably the closest thing we’ll get to a clue.
“Maybe some elements from the front and rear,” Nakamura-san told TG.
In fact, when the ‘Concept 2020 Vision Gran Turismo’ was revealed, Nissan itself admitted the design study was “a vision of a what a high performance Nissan could look like in the future, and the next story to an audience that has always shared our passion for performance”.
- It might manage a sub-seven minute lap of the Nuerburgring
This one’s just conjecture, but consider this: the current, R35 Nismo-fettled, 600bhp GT-R has unofficially blitzed a lap around the Green Hell in just 7m 08s. Not just fast for a GT-R, but fast full stop. That’s only nine seconds off the pace of a 740bhp Lamborghini Aventador SV on prototype tyres.
Again, considering the pace of development the GT-R is subject too, could we see a GT-R humbling the Radical SR8’s record-setting ‘Ring lap time?
Watch: the Nismo GT-R’s 7m 08s ‘Ring lap time with Michael Krumm
- It'll still be a heavy ol' lump
Supercars are supposed to lose weight over their life cycles, right? Not so the GT-R. It has hovered at, around and sometimes above the 1700kg mark for a while (the current version clocks in at 1740kg, the Nismo GT-R at 1720kg), and it’ll likely stay that heavy.
According to the GT-R’s ‘father’, Kazutoshi Mizuno, anyway. A while back he animatedly told TG that the legendary supercar had to be that heavy.
“All journalists say GT-R is heavy, heavy, heavy - it should be lighter, lighter, lighter! I say, journalists need to develop a more professional level of thinking! More study! More thought! The GT-R needs to be this weight. A car with less weight does not handle. Lighter weight can be dangerous, and it will not be driveable by all customers.”
He uses downforce as an example. “An F1 car weighs 560kg, more than 600kg with the driver,” he says. “How much downforce does an F1 car generate? Around 1300kg. So what is the total weight? 1860kg. A GT1 racing car weighs between 1200kg and 1300kg, plus downforce of 600kg, the actual weight on the car is 1800kg…”
With road cars unable to generate such vast downforce figures, that means we’re looking at a hefty kerbweight. “But with performance accessible to all customers. I have a big responsibility to the customer,” he once told us.
Top Gear talks to the ‘father’ of the GT-R
- There will be a GT3 version
The current, R35 GT3 GT-R has proven race pedigree, with wins in the Blancpain Endurance Series, Super GT, International GT, the FIA GT, British GT, the VLN, Asian Le Mans, Super Taikyu and GT Cup.
It’s a fast, angry-looking thing, and there’s no question the R36 version will be the next step in Nissan’s ongoing motorsport programme.
- There won't be a convertible-SUV version of the new GT-R
Well, probably. Though after the weirdness of the Murano Cross-Cabriolet and Nismo Juke, anything’s possible at Nissan.
Nissan hasn't confirmed anything yet, but it sure sounds like the R36 GT-R will be a hybrid.
Rumors of hybridization for the next-generation Nissan GT-R have been floating around for a few years now, and while nothing is confirmed yet, a hybrid GT-R feels inevitable. With the facelifted 2017 GT-R (pictured above) unveiled, Nissan has turned its attention to the R35's successor that'sset to debut in 2020.
Nissan chief creative officer Shiro Nakamura told Automotive News that work is underway on making a more fuel efficient, better proportioned GT-R, in an interview published Monday. Nakamura-san dropped very strong hints that the R36 GT-R will be a hybrid because Nissan wants to boost efficiency and performance over the current car.
"Electrification is almost inevitable for any car," said Nakamura-san. "If the next-generation GT-R has some electrification, nobody would be surprised at that time."
It's not difficult to imagine Nissan taking a similar approach as McLaren with its P1, which uses a torquey electric motor to compensate for the lag of its heavily turbocharged V8. It's also worth noting that the GT-Rs chief Japanese rival, the Acura NSX, has embraced hybridization.
Nakamura-san also says the next GT-R will look fairly different than its predecessor, all in the service of better performance.
"I think we can change to better proportions–the width, the height," said Nakamura-san. "Anything that we change on this car will contribute to better performance, better aero."
There is still a chance the next GT-R won't be a hybrid, but we'd frankly be surprised if that were the case. We'll know for sure in around three years or so, if not sooner.
Nissan bosses will no doubt be paying attention to similar battery cooling issues with new hybrid systems on this year’s F1 cars.
As our insider pointed out, “that is why the styling of the new GT-R will have to be so radically different. It’ll have to be penned to enable much more efficient cooling for the hybrid system as well as more efficient aerodynamics.” That’s where the company’s collaboration with Williams comes in handy.
While the F1 team is not adept at producing road cars, it does have state-of-the-art wind tunnel facilities to design the very best aeroparts (the outfit was consulted to develop the Nismo GT-R’s aero package) and it can offer development help for next-generation hybrid systems currently being used in F1.
We’re hearing Nissan could share this technology with Infiniti or even Mercedes-Benz, but from what we could gather, the company will not share this high performance racing technology for the road with anyone.
Our source also says that the VR37DETT engine being considered by Infiniti for a Porsche Panerama rival will not be used in the next GT-R.
All active
Nismo’s current ties with Williams F1 could see the UK firm have a significant influence on aerodynamics. A carbon adjustable wing with DRS-style activation could feature. This year’s Nismo GT-R Le Mans will debut solid hints to the production version.
New form
GT-R to become a strict two-seater in a bid to shrink dimensions and save weight. Target is an ambitious 1500kg, despite the added heft of various hybrid systems.
Gear solid
Nissan’s current drivetrain layout (front mounted V6, rear transaxle, all-wheel drive) will remain, but hybrid’s potential will call for a stronger version of the dual-clutch transmission that was built for the R35. Word is it will use eight gears.
To the max
Considering the GT-R’s VR38DETT was introduced in the current R35 it’s hard to imagine Nissan will develop a new unit. Good news is the engine still has plenty of potential left in it and the Nismo’s GT-R 441kW could be upped to 478kW.
And all up?
Even if the hybrid system is only able to add 100kW it would satisfy the projected target of 578kW. Torque is expect to rocket, though, with twist suggested to reach somewhere around 1000Nm.
Zap it good
It’s public knowledge Williams is working with Nissan on electrification products while at the same time Nissan has trademarked the ‘R Hybrid’ name for its performance hybrid models.
Nissan R36 GT-R: what we know about it | MOTOR
