Veyron Report Says Next Bugatti Veyron Will be a 1,500 PS Hybrid


The Bugatti Veyron EB 16.4 is a mid-engine sports car designed and developed in Germany by the Volkswagen Group and Bugatti, and manufactured in Molsheim, France by French automobile manufacturer Bugatti. It was named after the racing driver Pierre Veyron.

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Now that other manufacturers have caught up with Bugatti (see Ferrari, Porsche and McLaren’s hybrid supercars), the VW Group brand is developing a replacement for the Veyron, since its 1,000-ish hp output is no longer awe-inspiring.
There have been many rumors on what course the development of this new car could take, some even suggesting that it was going to be less powerful and cheaper than before – not so with this one…

Reuters tells us it has two sources inside VW (Bugatti’s parent company), who say the Veyron replacement will be a 1,500 PS monster of a hypercar that will achieve its monstrous output figure through using the familiar W16 engine, boosted by electric motors – it’s going to be a hybrid.

The news is backed up by the return to Bugatti of former Audi and Porsche research boss, Wolfgang Duerheimer, who rejoined the company on June 1. He’s a strong proponent of performance hybrids in general and a backer for the idea of a electrified Veyron replacement. Production is said to be limited to some 450 examples.

There’s also the promise that it will not be any less exciting than before; hopefully, it will be more exciting, particularly around the twisty bits, where some said its weight and lateral inertia really penalized its cornering capability.



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AUTOCAR - Bugatti plans new 286mph, 1479bhp Veyron successor

New hypercar to feature a hybrid powertrain mated with a heavily updated version of its predecessor’s turbocharged 8.0-litre W16 engine

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Autocar's image hints at how Bugatti's Veyron successor, due in 2016, could look

Development work has begun on a follow-up to the nine-year-oldBugatti Veyron, with the firm looking to raise the lofty performance of its hypercar with a new 286mph successor.

The Veyron replacement is set to adopt a heavily updated version of its predecessor’s turbocharged 8.0-litre W16 engine. It will incorporate hybrid technology and produce in the region of 1500ps (1479bhp), officials involved in the new car’s development have revealed.

Nothing is official, but a 0-62mph time of 2.3sec and a 286mph top speed are said to be within the realms of possibility, according to one insider privy to early computer simulations.

2016 Bugatti Chiron
 
With the likes of the Koenigsegg One (1340PS) and Hennessey Venom F5 (1400PS) already over taking the Veyron SS (1200PS) then the new Bugatti will have to have at least 1500PS and light weight of at least 1500 to 1600kg max to be able to give these cars a run for their money. The next Bugatti will have to have these target performance figures, 0-100km/h in under 2.4sec, 0-160km/h in under 4sec, 0-200km/h in under 5.5sec, 0-300km/h in 10sec!
 
1. the speed demon did 462mph on a 2200hp-2500hp engine
2. the railton mobile special did 400mph with 2 twin-napier engines, each at a power of 1350
3. the bluebirds went from 150mph to 400mph (see model history)

why don't they use the same designphilosophy as those cars for the template of the next veyron?

PS: some tuned cars have equal power to the speed demon but is NOWHERE NEAR 462mph
 
Bugatti Veyron successor could be called Chiron
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1999 Bugatti Chiron concept

Coming in 2015
A new report indicates Bugatti's Veyron successor will receive the "Chiron" nameplate.

It was 1999 at the Frankfurt Motor Show when Bugatti introduced the 18/3 Chiron designed by Fabrizio Giugiaro from Italdesign and apparently the name will be making a comeback next year when theVeyron successor will be launched. The moniker is most likely a reference to Bugatti racing driver Louis Alexandre Chiron (1899 - 1979).

Confirmed details about the new Bugatti are not available at this point but it is believed the model will stick with the Veyron's massive W16 8.0-liter engine with four turbochargers. However, in the "Chiron" it’s expected to work together with an electric motor to create a hybrid system capable of developing around 1,500 PS (1,103 kW) which should be enough for a rumored 270 mph (435 km/h) top speed.

Just like the Veyron, only 450 units will be built of the "piece of art" as described by VW Group's design chief Walter de Silva who also says they have put "a lot of effort in the technology" to develop a supercar that will "redefine the benchmarks."

Source: blog.caranddriver.com

Bugatti Veyron successor could be called Chiron
 
Bugatti Veyron successor could be called Chiron
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1999 Bugatti Chiron concept

Coming in 2015
A new report indicates Bugatti's Veyron successor will receive the "Chiron" nameplate.

It was 1999 at the Frankfurt Motor Show when Bugatti introduced the 18/3 Chiron designed by Fabrizio Giugiaro from Italdesign and apparently the name will be making a comeback next year when theVeyron successor will be launched. The moniker is most likely a reference to Bugatti racing driver Louis Alexandre Chiron (1899 - 1979).

Confirmed details about the new Bugatti are not available at this point but it is believed the model will stick with the Veyron's massive W16 8.0-liter engine with four turbochargers. However, in the "Chiron" it’s expected to work together with an electric motor to create a hybrid system capable of developing around 1,500 PS (1,103 kW) which should be enough for a rumored 270 mph (435 km/h) top speed.

Just like the Veyron, only 450 units will be built of the "piece of art" as described by VW Group's design chief Walter de Silva who also says they have put "a lot of effort in the technology" to develop a supercar that will "redefine the benchmarks."

Source: blog.caranddriver.com

http://www.worldcarfans.com/114090880863/bugatti-veyron-successor-could-be-called-chiron

Here's hoping it truly is leaner in both appearance and in mass than the Veyron.
 
The next Bugatti Veyron? Who cares
Extreme performance arrives at a crossroads.
By Chris Harris October 17, 2014 / Photos by Paul Wheeler
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The words barely penetrated my waking consciousness, but something registered from the pages of a weekly British car magazine: "Bugatti Veyron replacement will have over 1500 hp and hit 290 mph." Whatever. I couldn't care less, I thought, as I went off to water the tomato plants. Ten years ago I'd have struggled to suppress my delight and frantically written a column fantasizing over the concept of 290 on a public highway. Not now.

Why the ennui? Maybe I've just become an old fart. Maybe the memory of a sudden lane change at 227 mph in the original hyper-Bug hit me. But really, the very-high-performance car currently sits at a crossroads, and the Veyron replacement is on the wrong side. It's a faceless collection of numbers designed to appeal to the offensively rich, most of whom will never see 100 mph in it. I defended the Veyron for years, citing the pioneering use of a dual-clutch transmission and the car's vast yet usable performance, rather than doing the easy thing and moaning that it wasn't a McLaren F1.

But 10 years is a long time in automotive engineering. Most supercars now have dual-clutch transmissions and turbochargers and, visibility aside, are no more difficult to drive than a Ford Focus. This is potentially a bad thing indeed, and it's born of this industry's obsession with conforming to templates. When something works, everyone else follows suit. It's also due to component fetishism centered around mind-scrambling R&D costs. Getrag's development costs for a dual-clutch gearbox are so insane, it has to sell them to Ferrari, Mercedes, et al.

Under the skin of most fast cars, you'll find the same technologies, the same bits supplied by the same companies. It is not financially sound to develop your own stability-control system, so everyone goes to Bosch and buys one off the shelf. But what if the shelf systems were no good? That's hypothetical— they're actually damn fine—but you get my point. The fast-car industry is inexorably being led down a metaphorical road I'm not entirely sure it wants to follow.



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Bugatti
It's this accepted template of the very fast car that has suckered Bugatti into quietly leaking those details of the next Veyron. It might as well say, "The prevailing technologies over the next few years, or so our suppliers tell us, will be turbocharging alongside electro-gasoline hybridity, so we'll be using those." For a marque that gave us the Type 35, I think that's a tragic capitulation.

Someone needs to step away from the component-menu system and try to redefine this space. Is it any wonder that prices of desirable previous-generation supercars have spiraled out of control? Yes, we're in the middle of a boom, but makers of new supercars are stymied by making new machines as desirable as the back catalog. As one project boss said to me recently, "I don't care so much about our rivals, but we now have to compete with buyers who will pay $1 million for a [40-year-old] Porsche 2.7 RS, and we can't do that if we keep engineering the emotion out of our cars."

So why couldn't the next Bugatti have been a carbon-magnesium slither of moderation and cleverness? Perhaps 400 naturally aspirated horsepower and featherweight batteries pulling 1700 pounds with a revolutionary transmission that allows the driver to shift manually with a clutch but also (and I have no idea how this would work) with a fully automatic mode to keep the urban wafters in business? We can determine the core DNA of a living organism, but we can't manage this?



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Bugatti
You'll hear many reasons such radical thinking is impossible, most of them centered on emissions. That is not a credible excuse. These car companies are big enough to be able to hide small volumes of very special, less efficient machines, so they should listen to their own engineers and grow a pair. Speak to any of the brilliant young minds involved in developing the current crop of übercars. After a few drinks, they'll quietly admit they want low mass, less complexity, and a return to the driver-as-center-of-the-universe mind-set. That's not to say they despise hybridity or electric power steering, but they see the base context of the fast car being shunted into the wrong place—a place where the modern representation of Ettore Bugatti's fanatical attention to detail will exist simply to bludgeon its way to speeds usually associated with light aircraft.

The fast-car industry is ripe for an iPod moment, an episode of unprecedented change that forces both maker and consumer to reconsider their roles in the process. Of all the machines I've driven this year, it's the McLaren P1 and BMW i8 that feel like they attempt to embrace this change: They radiate a sense of being completely removed from their contemporaries, and for all the right reasons.



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Shelby Knick
Just imagine if someone gave us a light, beautiful, technically astute driver's car, and most important, it was celebrated by the masses such that it forced a recalibration of what a supercar should be. And that thinking percolated down through the price ranks, and Bugatti thought twice before delivering a 290-mph lummox obsessed with its own obsolescence.

Or else … I see Dodge has built a 707-hp Challenger called the Hellcat.

Maybe we should all just buy those.
 
The next Bugatti Veyron? Who cares
Extreme performance arrives at a crossroads.
By Chris Harris October 17, 2014 / Photos by Paul Wheeler
d99a79b8dbf47c7e9ce20a4e097ea88c.webp


The words barely penetrated my waking consciousness, but something registered from the pages of a weekly British car magazine: "Bugatti Veyron replacement will have over 1500 hp and hit 290 mph." Whatever. I couldn't care less, I thought, as I went off to water the tomato plants. Ten years ago I'd have struggled to suppress my delight and frantically written a column fantasizing over the concept of 290 on a public highway. Not now.

Why the ennui? Maybe I've just become an old fart. Maybe the memory of a sudden lane change at 227 mph in the original hyper-Bug hit me. But really, the very-high-performance car currently sits at a crossroads, and the Veyron replacement is on the wrong side. It's a faceless collection of numbers designed to appeal to the offensively rich, most of whom will never see 100 mph in it. I defended the Veyron for years, citing the pioneering use of a dual-clutch transmission and the car's vast yet usable performance, rather than doing the easy thing and moaning that it wasn't a McLaren F1.

But 10 years is a long time in automotive engineering. Most supercars now have dual-clutch transmissions and turbochargers and, visibility aside, are no more difficult to drive than a Ford Focus. This is potentially a bad thing indeed, and it's born of this industry's obsession with conforming to templates. When something works, everyone else follows suit. It's also due to component fetishism centered around mind-scrambling R&D costs. Getrag's development costs for a dual-clutch gearbox are so insane, it has to sell them to Ferrari, Mercedes, et al.

Under the skin of most fast cars, you'll find the same technologies, the same bits supplied by the same companies. It is not financially sound to develop your own stability-control system, so everyone goes to Bosch and buys one off the shelf. But what if the shelf systems were no good? That's hypothetical— they're actually damn fine—but you get my point. The fast-car industry is inexorably being led down a metaphorical road I'm not entirely sure it wants to follow.



28c3e8a7d425c5a76ba6dc6e4aab9860.webp

Bugatti
It's this accepted template of the very fast car that has suckered Bugatti into quietly leaking those details of the next Veyron. It might as well say, "The prevailing technologies over the next few years, or so our suppliers tell us, will be turbocharging alongside electro-gasoline hybridity, so we'll be using those." For a marque that gave us the Type 35, I think that's a tragic capitulation.

Someone needs to step away from the component-menu system and try to redefine this space. Is it any wonder that prices of desirable previous-generation supercars have spiraled out of control? Yes, we're in the middle of a boom, but makers of new supercars are stymied by making new machines as desirable as the back catalog. As one project boss said to me recently, "I don't care so much about our rivals, but we now have to compete with buyers who will pay $1 million for a [40-year-old] Porsche 2.7 RS, and we can't do that if we keep engineering the emotion out of our cars."

So why couldn't the next Bugatti have been a carbon-magnesium slither of moderation and cleverness? Perhaps 400 naturally aspirated horsepower and featherweight batteries pulling 1700 pounds with a revolutionary transmission that allows the driver to shift manually with a clutch but also (and I have no idea how this would work) with a fully automatic mode to keep the urban wafters in business? We can determine the core DNA of a living organism, but we can't manage this?



0cc66d065c404c40605aeb876395a781.webp

Bugatti
You'll hear many reasons such radical thinking is impossible, most of them centered on emissions. That is not a credible excuse. These car companies are big enough to be able to hide small volumes of very special, less efficient machines, so they should listen to their own engineers and grow a pair. Speak to any of the brilliant young minds involved in developing the current crop of übercars. After a few drinks, they'll quietly admit they want low mass, less complexity, and a return to the driver-as-center-of-the-universe mind-set. That's not to say they despise hybridity or electric power steering, but they see the base context of the fast car being shunted into the wrong place—a place where the modern representation of Ettore Bugatti's fanatical attention to detail will exist simply to bludgeon its way to speeds usually associated with light aircraft.

The fast-car industry is ripe for an iPod moment, an episode of unprecedented change that forces both maker and consumer to reconsider their roles in the process. Of all the machines I've driven this year, it's the McLaren P1 and BMW i8 that feel like they attempt to embrace this change: They radiate a sense of being completely removed from their contemporaries, and for all the right reasons.



57542ab28f273808f9422571f1aa091f.webp

Shelby Knick
Just imagine if someone gave us a light, beautiful, technically astute driver's car, and most important, it was celebrated by the masses such that it forced a recalibration of what a supercar should be. And that thinking percolated down through the price ranks, and Bugatti thought twice before delivering a 290-mph lummox obsessed with its own obsolescence.

Or else … I see Dodge has built a 707-hp Challenger called the Hellcat.

Maybe we should all just buy those.
I like the way he thinks, he is coming from the old school of supercars where tantalizing senses were coming from every movement in the cars suspension, steering and engine response and noise, with controls that the driver would actually feel the weight and movements (manual gearbox and non assisted steering). The sense of light weight was always there as the cars were engineered not for mostly satisfying the EURONCAP freaks but for making them super responsive and agile and full of feel and keep the driver always alert and feel they in control and part of the cars personality.

Nowadays the innovative engineering in sports cars and super cars is focusing more on emissions and consumption and über performance more than anything else. When honestly can you use the 963ps of the new LaFerrari on the road it is too damn fast? Only a race track or airfield strip to reach 200mph in 20sec!

I think our age is telling us that we dreaming back to the days of our teens and when our dream cars were the dream drives the cars that filled you're senses with what you can do when you drive them and how they sound.

The Ferrari F40/Porsche 959/testarossa/Lancia Stratos/Porsche 935 turbo/Lancia Integrale/Lamborghini Countach all were my bedroom pinup cars when I was a kid and always the dream supercars I would love to drive. That dream is still there for these cars cause they were for me out of this world for the senses they provided for the driver and all that loved these cars
 
Well, I think these dinosaurs will go away. New money countries and their residents, which could not care less for emissions and the like will have them for a while longer, but then even that will not work in the long run.
 

Bugatti

Bugatti Automobiles S.A.S. is a French luxury sports car manufacturer. The company was founded in 1998 as a subsidiary of the Volkswagen Group and is based in Molsheim, Alsace, France. The original Bugatti automobile brand was established by Ettore Bugatti (1881-1947) in 1909 at Molsheim and built sports, racing and luxury cars. In November 2021, the company became part of Bugatti Rimac, a joint venture between Rimac Group and Porsche AG.
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