Legacy Subaru Legacy GT test drive.


The Subaru Legacy is a mid-size car built by Subaru from 1989 to 2025. Their flagship car, it is unique in its class for offering all-wheel drive as a standard feature, and Subaru's traditional boxer engine. The Legacy was sold as the Liberty in Australia.

Mr. M

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I've always had an interest to go test-drive the Subaru cars - specifically the Legacy - but never got around to do it because my dad just didn't like Subaru. It has got something to do with how it is pronounced in Chinese (or Hokkien) - it means something like a 'loser's car' when translated loosely. Traditional, backward-thinking but yeah, it plays a big part of brands in Asian societies.

Nevertheless, I convinced my dad to head down to the new Subaru showroom located in the middle of housing estates - in Singapore we call them the heartlands (a little like suburban areas) - which was built at a cost of over SGD25 million dollars (about USD14.7 million). It looked awesome, and they had on display the Legacy GT, Impreza WRX STi, Outback 3.0R among others, including the superminis R1 and R2. They also have a outdoor driving track at the rooftop.

We first sat inside the Legacy GT, which had an interior that left us impressed. My dad had a bad impression of Subaru before but this left him changing his mind. Chrome accents in the cabin, soft-touch plastics and high-quality all play a part in making the interior feel really well-built. The seats are supportive and everything looked durable - something that we look out for especially. The frameless windows really bought my heart as I have a soft-spot for them.

The exterior is, I daresay, one of the better looking ones among Japanese sedans. Actually come think, it's probably the best of the lot - it can certainly take on the Mazda6 MPS's family sedan looks, the Honda Accord's unsorted rear design, the Camry's boring outlook as well as the Passat's safe exterior. I'd say the Subaru looks closest to the Passat, but it manages to pull it off by being fresh, unique and pleasing to the eye. No large chrome faces to stare at in this car.

Another appeal of this car - one of the largest in fact - is its engine. 245bhp on tap from the turbocharged 2L boxer engine is absolutely wonderful - top that up with 310Nm of torque, you're almost getting Cayman power for less than half the price. In fact, at its price, nothing really comes close... Even the GTI is more expensive.

We immediately requested for a test-drive, and the sales executive politely obliged. A turn of the ignition creates a low but audible rumble that won't grab attention but isn't anything to laugh at either. A little revs reveal that this car is certainly no ordinary family sedan... This car sounds like a Porsche.

A little of the details: 0-100km/h in sub 6 seconds and a top speed of 237km/h. 'Nuff said: driving this car was a joy. There's power when you want it, comfort's there and it feels good to be sitting inside it. The standard Macintosh sound system sounds like a premium setup that costs a lot more, the gauges are electrolumiscent and are visible at almost any light condition, and the red lighting of the buttons really accentuates the interior. Good stuff.

That said, there is a certain lightness to the way power is delivered in this car. It's quite hard to explain but let me try. When you're driving a high-powered Japanese sedan, you know you're going fast, but somehow it just doesn't push your body back and give you the exact sensation like German or Italian cars do it. Yes, it may have the power, but you can't feel it. A German car, on the other hand like the GTI, gives a surge of power that really pumps the adrenaline. You can literally feel yourself being rocketed as you press the accelerator. The weight of the car is being pulled forward and you can feel the inertia being overcome - in a Japanese car, you can't feel that 'weight' that gives authority and control. This sensation, you can't get in a Japanese sedan.

That said, I just love this car. It trumps the GTI on my mental list of 'cars-to-get-when-I-get-my-license' list for now, but I'll have to drive both cars back to back to decide.

In conclusion, Subaru has created a highly credible sedan that appeals a lot to the masses, including the European market - this car is distinctly different from the Accord or Mazda6 - try one today to try something different.

PS. I had a look of the Impreza and I didn't like it at all. A complete car, I feel, doesn't just have to need a powerful engine... It needs a good interior, it needs good looks and it needs practicality. The Impreza has a terrible interior, which is something I cannot live with at all. I also had a look at the Forrester as well as the Outback, both very very impressive cars.

I hope you guys enjoyed this little review - do ask me any more questions - I can't help but feel I've missed out on some details here, I just can't remember what. :D

:usa7uh:
 
Great review Mirage. Thanks for that.

My questions:
Was this car comfortable? When you drive a car, you don't only get to drive it in "track conditions". Sometimes you cruise but sometimes you take it downtown. So does it feel like a good allarounder? And how good were the plastics, i mean quality-wise, compared to the german alternatives? Oh, and did you check the trunk? Was it big enough? And did it feel cheap, like many mid-priced sedans?

Thanks again for that great review!
 
Giannis said:
Great review Mirage. Thanks for that.

My questions:
Was this car comfortable? When you drive a car, you don't only get to drive it in "track conditions". Sometimes you cruise but sometimes you take it downtown. So does it feel like a good allarounder? And how good were the plastics, i mean quality-wise, compared to the german alternatives? Oh, and did you check the trunk? Was it big enough? And did it feel cheap, like many mid-priced sedans?

Thanks again for that great review!

Great response from GCF I see. :D Thanks. :t-cheers:

I'll address your issues:

Comfort
This car is comfortable, something you can live with day to day, but it isn't anything near like the pillow-like ride in the Honda Accord. It's stiffer than that but not to the point that you can feel the potholes and bumps on the road - actually, this car handles all of those pretty well and the word I can think of now that fits the ride most is 'composed'.

As an all-rounder
Definitely. It is a respectable mid-level executive sedan that exudes a good image - not like the boy-racer types like the Impreza. It's a car you'd bring to work, a car you can carry business clients in, and yet it's also a car for the family. People often refer to the Legacy as the 'grown-up Impreza' - that's true indeed. Performance of a sports car and the maturity of an executive sedan mated together and you get the Legacy.

Plastics
This was probably the singlemost impressive part of the Legacy I encountered - I can say that the plastics feel on par with the E90's. No kidding.

Boot
It has a good sized boot, my perspective isn't that good but I reckon it can swallow 3 golf bags easy.

Did it feel cheap?
Nope, this Japanese car feels just like a German car. :D It's the only car besides the Honda Accord I'd consider among the Japanese cars, IMO. They're just fantastic.

Again, the only problem I see with this car is the 'lightweight power' feel... It's quite hard to put into words but that's how I would describe it.

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:t-cheers:
 
Nicely detailed and descriptive evaluation as usual Mirage77.

An interesting point to note on your comment about the power delivery not being as, let's say, beefy as the GTI's... The car you drove in was the 2.0 GT and this car comes with a twin-scroll turbocharger that results in the power delivery of this car having two distinct "steps". These steps are less perceptible in the manual than the automatic because you can get early boost by raising the engine revs before pulling away.

So, instead of getting the whole whack of turbo-boost in one go, the 2.0GT dishes it out in stages.

In Australian and African markets the 2.0GT has been replaced by the 2.5GT as part of the recent facelift. A shame really because I believe the twin-scroll two-litre is the more advanced engine imo.
 
martinbo said:
Nicely detailed and descriptive evaluation as usual Mirage77.

An interesting point to note on your comment about the power delivery not being as, let's say, beefy as the GTI's... The car you drove in was the 2.0 GT and this car comes with a twin-scroll turbocharger that results in the power delivery of this car having two distinct "steps". These steps are less perceptible in the manual than the automatic because you can get early boost by raising the engine revs before pulling away.

So, instead of getting the whole whack of turbo-boost in one go, the 2.0GT dishes it out in stages.

In Australian and African markets the 2.0GT has been replaced by the 2.5GT as part of the recent facelift. A shame really because I believe the twin-scroll two-litre is the more advanced engine imo.

Wow, that's some technical knowledge I've been waiting to hear... :usa7uh:

I've been waiting for your reply, I know you're a Scoobie fan. :D So the 2.5GT has a conventional turbo? Which one do you prefer?
 
Mirage, the 2.5GT has a less sophisticated "arc-scroll" turbo. That is, it has a single volute (the circular chamber around the exhaust impeller) fed by both exhaust manifolds from both banks. This is as opposed to a twin-scroll design (i.e. two circular volutes: one fed by one manifold from one cylinder bank and another fed by the other) that is able to "focus" the exhaust pulse at a narrower section of the turbo impeller theoretically causing it to spool up earlier.

Can you imagine! I haven't had the time to get a drive in the new 2.5GT. It's on my list of things to do before the weekend is nigh, so I'll keep you posted!

Regards
Martin
 
martinbo said:
Mirage, the 2.5GT has a less sophisticated "arc-scroll" turbo. That is, it has a single volute (the circular chamber around the exhaust impeller) fed by both exhaust manifolds from both banks. This is as opposed to a twin-scroll design (i.e. two circular volutes: one fed by one manifold from one cylinder bank and another fed by the other) that is able to "focus" the exhaust pulse at a narrower section of the turbo impeller theoretically causing it to spool up earlier.

Can you imagine! I haven't had the time to get a drive in the new 2.5GT. It's on my list of things to do before the weekend is nigh, so I'll keep you posted!

Regards
Martin

Thanks! I'll be waiting for it...:usa7uh:
 
wow man i just discoverd this thread, awsome stuff guys. I think we are the minority here who actually think the Legacy/Liberty is a genuine alternative to those German cars, eg 3 series A4, C-class.

I was deciding between the GTi and the Legacy (they call it the Liberty in Aust), but i cannot be bothered to wait and after a test drive, i decided that the Liberty fulfils my needs. I have a 3.0R Spec B Wagon. I never test drive the GT because they stopped selling it in Australia for a 8 months, and i don't want a turbo car because the insurance will kill me.

The Legacy is certinally the best mid sized Jap car money can buy right now. It is spacious, practical, stylish, understated, but it is also fast and handles really well.

The horizontal engine layout certinally creates an unique driving experience . You can hear the offbeat exhaust note gently bubbling away when you are cruising, but when you are in a real hurry, the Porsche like engine noise just dominates everything else.

Because mine is a non turbo, it needs the rev to get the car moving. There is a noticable lack of torque below 3000 rpm, so you need to rev it a bit to get the power down. But once u get moving the car flies, As Mirage 77 said, "you know you're going fast, but it doesn't push your body back and give you the exact sensation like German or Italian cars do it. Yes, it may have the power, but you can't feel it." I misjudged the speed of the car a few times, and had to press the brakes pretty hard. Although the brakes are powerful, they lack initial bite, and i have to press the pedal to half way to stop the car for most of the time. The brake travel is short, so it is a bit tricky to get it right.

The standard Macintosh sound system does sounds like a premium setup, and the Macintosh lettering on the dash lights up at night.

I opted for the Bilsten suspension package, so the ride is a little bit harsher than the normal setup. The car has great body control, it has minimal body roll during medium speed cornering, and it doesn't dive that much under hard braking. THe low speed ride is surprisingly comfortable, but it gets a bit bumpier as the speed rise. You can definitely feel the potholes and bumps.

The interior plastics are certinally better than those in the Honda Accord Euro, better than the C-class for sure, but it is not quite up to Audi's level. The soft touch plastics on the top half of the dashboard is of high quality, but the plastics on the lower part of the dashboard, and the glovebox is a bit hard, The level of fit and finish is good but not great. I have this slightly uneven gap on the side of the steering column, and the glovebox doesn't really shut as tightly as possible.

There are a few negative points i have with this car.

1) The auto gearbox isn't really smooth and it constantly hunts for the wrong gear. I got caught out a few times when the gearbox was in a higher gear than it should be, so when i accelerate, the car was going dam slow until it realises its mistake a few seconds later and downshit. This can be fixed if i bothered to slot it into tiptronic mode, but i am lazy.

2) Fuel consumption. This car drinks like a V8. When i was breaking in the engine, it was drinking 20L/100km, now it still consumes a little more than 15L/100km.

3) Engine oil consumption. This engine use up a fair bit of engine oil. I have to check it every 2 weeks or so just to make sure the engine oil stays at the right level.

4) The car has noticable wind and road noise. I the Liberty trails behind the Germans in this area.

5) The steering is quick and very accurate, the car follows any tiny movements of the steering wheel. But it is a little too light and it does suffer from minor kick backs. It loads up when i accelerate.

6) The leather seats feel a bit thin and plasticky. I prefer leather with rougher texture. Those on the Liberty are very smooth, and it doesn't really feel like leather at all.

Here is a pic of the car

Thanks for the review Mirage 77
 
monster said:
wow man i just discoverd this thread, awsome stuff guys. I think we are the minority here who actually think the Legacy/Liberty is a genuine alternative to those German cars, eg 3 series A4, C-class.

I was deciding between the GTi and the Legacy (they call it the Liberty in Aust), but i cannot be bothered to wait and after a test drive, i decided that the Liberty fulfils my needs. I have a 3.0R Spec B Wagon. I never test drive the GT because they stopped selling it in Australia for a 8 months, and i don't want a turbo car because the insurance will kill me.

The Legacy is certinally the best mid sized Jap car money can buy right now. It is spacious, practical, stylish, understated, but it is also fast and handles really well.

The horizontal engine layout certinally creates an unique driving experience . You can hear the offbeat exhaust note gently bubbling away when you are cruising, but when you are in a real hurry, the Porsche like engine noise just dominates everything else.

Because mine is a non turbo, it needs the rev to get the car moving. There is a noticable lack of torque below 3000 rpm, so you need to rev it a bit to get the power down. But once u get moving the car flies, As Mirage 77 said, "you know you're going fast, but it doesn't push your body back and give you the exact sensation like German or Italian cars do it. Yes, it may have the power, but you can't feel it." I misjudged the speed of the car a few times, and had to press the brakes pretty hard. Although the brakes are powerful, they lack initial bite, and i have to press the pedal to half way to stop the car for most of the time. The brake travel is short, so it is a bit tricky to get it right.

The standard Macintosh sound system does sounds like a premium setup, and the Macintosh lettering on the dash lights up at night.

I opted for the Bilsten suspension package, so the ride is a little bit harsher than the normal setup. The car has great body control, it has minimal body roll during medium speed cornering, and it doesn't dive that much under hard braking. THe low speed ride is surprisingly comfortable, but it gets a bit bumpier as the speed rise. You can definitely feel the potholes and bumps.

The interior plastics are certinally better than those in the Honda Accord Euro, better than the C-class for sure, but it is not quite up to Audi's level. The soft touch plastics on the top half of the dashboard is of high quality, but the plastics on the lower part of the dashboard, and the glovebox is a bit hard, The level of fit and finish is good but not great. I have this slightly uneven gap on the side of the steering column, and the glovebox doesn't really shut as tightly as possible.

There are a few negative points i have with this car.

1) The auto gearbox isn't really smooth and it constantly hunts for the wrong gear. I got caught out a few times when the gearbox was in a higher gear than it should be, so when i accelerate, the car was going dam slow until it realises its mistake a few seconds later and downshit. This can be fixed if i bothered to slot it into tiptronic mode, but i am lazy.

2) Fuel consumption. This car drinks like a V8. When i was breaking in the engine, it was drinking 20L/100km, now it still consumes a little more than 15L/100km.

3) Engine oil consumption. This engine use up a fair bit of engine oil. I have to check it every 2 weeks or so just to make sure the engine oil stays at the right level.

4) The car has noticable wind and road noise. I the Liberty trails behind the Germans in this area.

5) The steering is quick and very accurate, the car follows any tiny movements of the steering wheel. But it is a little too light and it does suffer from minor kick backs. It loads up when i accelerate.

6) The leather seats feel a bit thin and plasticky. I prefer leather with rougher texture. Those on the Liberty are very smooth, and it doesn't really feel like leather at all.

Here is a pic of the car

Thanks for the review Mirage 77

Hi monster, you're most welcome. :usa7uh:

The 3.0R Wagon sells for around the same price as the LGT here, and I think it's just as good a buy as the Legacy if not better, though I certainly cannot live with 15L/100km (as my first car at least). I can bet that the NA 3.0 offers much better response and generally a better drive than the 2.0turbo, despite having similar torque and hp figures. :usa7uh:

I can't help but feel a little disappointed with the gearbox after what you said. It certainly compromises the car quite a bit... I'm no stranger to weird gearboxes, though. The one in the Phaeton also takes time to make up its mind, sometimes shifting a gear too quickly or too slowly.

Thanks for your honest views... Karma for you! I've learnt much more about the Wagon now. ;)
 
Germaniac said:
A fantastic review of the Legacy (Liberty) GT was put up on carpoint.com.au the other day...
http://www.carpoint.com.au/car-review/2125393.aspx
I think it may give some reason as to why you felt the '180kw' didn't feel as 'there' as the European's ... did your dad take it out of intelligent mode into sport or sport#?

Anyhow nice review, thanks :)

Ahh, those modes sure make a lot of difference. Thanks for the article.

I wasn't sure what mode my dad was in. :t-banghea But I guessed it must have been intelligent.

No problem. :usa7uh:
 

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