Hot! VW I.D production date confirmed

[Centurion]

Volkswagen ID electric car production date now set: November 2019

Since the Dieselgate scandal broke more than two years ago, Volkswagen has spent a great deal of time talking about its plans for electric cars.

It has rolled out three concept vehicles within the new Volkswagen ID family, and discussed its dedicated electric-car architecture that will underpin all of them.

Now, the company has committed to a date for producing its first high-volume dedicated battery-electric car.


In a release last Friday, Volkswagen said it is 100 weeks away from the first production of the Volkswagen ID five-door electric hatchback. That car, the first in the ID lineup, was unveiled at the 2016 Paris Motor Show, and will be its highest-volume electric car in Europe.

Volkswagen made its announcement to mark the "MEB Supplier Summit" event, a meeting of the various companies providing components and assemblies for the vehicles to be built on its new MEB electric-car architecture.

One hundred weeks from last Friday puts the start of production sometime in November 2019. So now the company has a firm commitment to a date.

The Golf-sized compact Volkswagen ID hatchback is said to have the interior volume of a mid-size sedan like the Volkswagen Passat.

Its 125-kilowatt (168-horsepower) motor is mounted in the rear, under the load bay, which gives the car’s designers far more flexibility in design, permitting a shorter and lower nose and more interior volume.

Volkswagen hasn't specified a final battery capacity for the ID, but it is expected to be around 60 kilowatt-hours, or large enough to deliver real-world range of 200 miles or more.

The ID hatchback won't be sold in North America, however, or at least not initially.

The first of the Volkswagen-branded electric cars to go on sale in the U.S. will be the VW ID Crozz compact crossover in 2020, as the company announced at last week's Los Angeles auto show. That will be followed by an as-yet unnamed electric sedan that hasn't yet been shown as a concept. Then will come the Volkswagen ID Buzz, the wildly popular all-electric reinterpretation of the classic VW Microbus. That concept debuted in January at the Detroit auto show.

Volkswagen announced in August the ID Buzz would go into production in 2022 as a joint project with its commercial vehicles division, which will likely offer panel-van, pickup, and other utility versions of the electric bus.

But the Volkswagen ID hatchback targets Europe's most popular vehicle class: so-called C-segment, or compact, five-door hatchbacks.


That will be followed by an as-yet unnamed electric sedan that hasn't yet been shown as a concept.

Then will come the Volkswagen ID Buzz, the wildly popular all-electric reinterpretation of the classic VW Microbus. That concept debuted in January at the Detroit auto show.


Source: Volkswagen ID electric car production date now set: November 2019

 

[Centurion]

2019 is a good date as it will beat Mercedes and BMW to the punch with hatchback EVs.

This date should also give Tesla a kick in the butt. It will be embarrassing if European customers take delivery of a VW I.D before a Model 3.

 

[Laurent T]

Interesting, nice looking and with a sufficient power. Range will be key for success.

 

[klier]

I like it, phew!

Bring it on, all resources towards this instead of dirty diesels and W16 engines!

 

[PanterroR]

Looks 10 times better than i3.

 

[Centurion]

Range will be key for success.

The options will be:

400km (248 miles)
500km (310 miles)
600km (373 miles)

The range will be the same for all MEB based cars.

 

[Heisenberg]

New Volkswagen ID: electric hatchback prototypes hit the road
Volkswagen's first purpose-built EV is going into production in November 2019, and will stay true to the concept car's design

Volkswagen's upcoming ID, the all-electric hatchback destined to enter production late next year, has been testing in disguise in South Africa.

The first model from the VW brand designed and purpose-built as an EV, the Golf-sized ID will remain largely faithful to the 2016 ID concept, as the new images show.


Director of Volkswagen Design, Klaus Bischoff, previously told Autocar: “The proportions, the design cues and the wheel size are the same as the concept. It looks like the show car. We couldn’t do the camera-system rear-view mirrors for legal reasons, nor the electric door handles due to cost. But other than that, it’s pretty much the same.”

The firm has started on-road testing for its model, with the first pre-production prototypes having rolled off lines in April. Engineers have a 16-month window to complete the car's development. Company boss Herbert Diess revealed that these prototypes would also be used in an "intensive start-up phase" that will begin in September.

The first definitive examples of the ID are due to be produced in November 2019. Customer sales will kick off in Britain at the start of 2020 at what Diess said would be a price "comparable to a diesel model".

The new EV will ignite VW's electric car offensive and is a rear-wheel drive, five-door hatchback.

With an electric motor providing the car with 168bhp, the ID is claimed to boast a range of 249-373 miles, easily eclipsing the 186-mile range of the facelifted version of the e-Golf.

By packaging its electric motor at the rear, VW has freed up space within the front section of the ID, endowing it with an impressively tight turning circle of just 9.9 metres and the promise of excellent manoeuvrability in urban driving environments.

One of the stars of the 2016 Paris motor show, where it was first shown in concept form, the ID will be the first of five new electric models planned by VW, including also an MPV similar to the earlier Budd-e concept wheeled out at the Consumer Electronics Show (also in 2016), ID Crozz SUV, ID Buzz Microbus concept and a saloon.

Built to showcase the design lineage, electric drive technology and modular platform architecture that are set to underpin VW’s EV offensive, the ID concept also provides an insight to the fully autonomous driving functions the company is developing for introduction on selected models from 2025 onwards. Among its more intriguing features is a multi-function steering wheel that stows away within the dashboard when the driver switches to autonomous driving mode via the VW emblem set within its boss.

Styled at VW’s main design studio in Wolfsburg, Germany, the ID sports a highly contemporary appearance that is claimed to set the tone for all of the company’s new electric cars. Commenting on the design process, head of VW brand design Klaus Bischoff said: “We had the unique chance to lead Volkswagen into a new age. Electric drive provides greater freedom for designers. We minimise the cooling holes; the axes move further apart and generate stunning proportions.”



With an illuminated badge making it easily identifiable as a VW, the new car departs quite radically from existing models. Key elements include a largely unadorned front end, ultra-short front overhang, a steeply rising bonnet line, a heavily raked windscreen, large wheel houses housing 20in wheels, prominent sill elements, cantilever-style rear doors, an extended roofline, a prominent rear spoiler element and a glass tailgate.

By eschewing a traditional grille, using flush fitting glass for the side windows and extending the roofline beyond the top of the tailgate, VW’s designers have clearly attempted boost the aerodynamic efficiency of the ID.

At 4100mm in length, 1800mm in width and 1530mm in height, the ID is 155mm longer, 9mm wider and 77mm higher than the existing seventh-generation Golf. It also rides on a wheelbase that is 130mm longer than that of Europe’s perennial best seller at 2750mm.

With interactive LED headlights that have been conceived to mimic the action of a human eye by giving the impression of being able to open and close, as well as LED units concealed within various parts of the exterior, the lighting properties and overall visual character of the ID alters depending on the drive mode.

When parked, the headlight graphic is designed to provide an impression of a closed eye – as if to signal it is asleep. At start-up, the headlights blink and the graphic is altered to convey the action of an eye opening. At the same time, the VW logos front and rear are illuminated in white, while the lower section of the front bumper, side sills and rear diffuser are lit up in blue.

When drive is selected, the LED daytime driving lights are automatically switched on and the VW logos remain lit in white. In autonomous drive mode, a laser scanner deploys from the roof and the front bumper, side sills and rear diffuser are once again illuminated in blue. During recharging, the LED units pulsate in a simulation of the flow of energy being provided to the battery.



Inside, VW has exploited the packaging advantages inherent in pure electric drivetrains to provide its latest concept car with an impressively roomy four-seat interior offering accommodation similar to today’s larger Passat, as well as a comprehensive connectivity package that VW suggests will be part and parcel of all upcoming electric models.

"Before we took a pen in the hand for the ID project, we intensively discussed the importance of future mobility. One thing is certain: the car for the day after tomorrow will be a place of mobile communication. The open space offered by the ID is such a place,” says Bischoff.

While the ID provides seating for four on individual seats, the production version will offer a more conventional layout with space for up to five. VW has yet to reveal nominal boot capacity but says the concept offers up to 980 litres of luggage space when the rear seats are folded down.

Despite its contemporary appearance, VW suggests the production version will rely on existing unibody construction techniques using a combination of hot-formed high-strength steel, aluminium and magnesium. This will allow the company to build the new car in existing factories without the need for significant investment in production infrastructure.

Underpinning the ID is VW’s newly developed MEB (Modular Electric Architecture) platform originally showcased on the Budd-e concept at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas in January 2016.

Providing the ID with zero-emissions capability is a 125kW brushless electric motor mounted within the rear axle housing. The in-house-developed unit drives the concept’s rear wheels via a fixed-ratio gearbox. Although VW has yet to hint at a kerb weight for the first of its dedicated electric cars, computer simulations suggest the production version is set to possess a 0-62mph time of less than eight seconds and a top speed limited to 100mph.

Energy used to drive the electric motor is drawn from a lithium-ion battery mounted low down in the floor of the MEB platform wholly within the wheelbase for the best possible weight distribution. VW has not yet confirmed the capacity of the lithium-ion unit, but Autocar sources say it will be produced in-house for the production model. However, VW describes the battery used by the ID as being scalable and hints at differing capacities in each of its upcoming electric models in much the same way that it offers differing power outputs in today’s combustion engine models.

Little is being said about the charging system for the ID, although going on VW’s claims that its battery can be recharged to 80% within 30 minutes, it appears the car maker may be considering a 800V system similar to that employed by its sibling company Porsche on the Mission E concept revealed at the Frankfurt motor show in 2015.

Despite mounting the electric motor at the rear, VW says there is sufficient space to provide the ID with a multi-link rear-suspension similar to that used by the Golf. It is also key to endowing the new car with a weight distribution put at 48:52 front-to-rear.

VW is targeting one million EV sales annually by 2025.

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[Deleted member 1071]

A car that will rival the original VW "Bug" and Golf I in terms of corporate significance.

 

[Centurion]

EVs Für alle!!!

If VW sticks to the promise of selling it at the same price as a diesel Golf then the Tesla Model 3 will have lost before European customers have even touched its body work.

The I.D will still be an important stepping stone for electric cars because unlike all the stupidly expensive electric SUVs, this hatchback will have the price, versatility and design that will appeal to millions. Technical however, it won't be ground breaking as main stream adoption of electric cars won't happen until solid states are commercially viable.

In the meantime, availability of sub 10min 80% charging will be crucial for the majority of car buyers who don't have access to charging at home or at work.

80% in 30min is simply not good enough and it would be a shame if first generation I.D aren't compatibility with the fast charging that Porsche and Audi will use.

 

[SKY]

EVs Für alle!!!

If VW sticks to the promise of selling it at the same price as a diesel Golf then the Tesla Model 3 will have lost before European customers have even touched its body work.

The I.D will still be an important stepping stone for electric cars because unlike all the stupidly expensive electric SUVs, this hatchback will have the price, v...

Agree. Give me the equivalent of my GTi with electric power and an attractive design and I will switch to EV.

 

[Rainer271]

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[Deleted member 1071]

THE defining automobile of the 2020s' and perhaps onwards ?

 

[EnI]

Yeah, yeah, yeah ... Everybody is launching BEVs now ... BUT ... Nobody is really talking about the production capacity here!!!!!!

Such cars are useless when production capacity is limited to several 10k / year only - due to limited supply of batteries or limited production facilities in general. BEVs are still hard to get! While the demand is growing.

IMHO the carmaker that will be able to meet the demand best (quick & enough) will be the winner here. At least short term.

Right now contracts for battery supplies to any of legacy carmakers are nowhere near Tesla battery supply. And mind many of the legacy carmakers will use a portion of supplied batteries for PHEVs too , not for BEVs only.

BMW has announced €4 billions contract for battery supply for the next few years (I think till 2021), while VAG & Daimler each announced contracts worth €20+ billions for battery supply till 2030. What about the others?

Also battery makers aren't erecting battery plants fast enough to meet the demand.

Battery supply is the bottle neck when it comes to BEVs ... And so they are in many cases limited production facilities for BEVs - since many carmakers will have to build dedicated BEV factories, or at least install dedicated BEV production line - or in case of Volvo, BMW etc adapt existing model lines to be able to produce all kinds of vehicles, regardless of powertrain type.

I'm not sure BEV production is sustainable in the long run! Batteries use exotic rare earths that are quite limited & expensive & there's even bigger monopoly / oligopoly in rare earth supply than it is in the case of crude oil or refined oil products! Also recycling will be crucial in battery & e-motor production, with all the rare earths & metals used (eg. copper). And recycling processes & business are still not viable in many cases. Too complicated, too expensive to harvest materials via recycling.

I'm still waiting for some viable, sustainable long-term plan when it comes to BEVs. I just can imagine all the 75 million of passenger vehicles & 25 million of commercial vehicles produced today to shift to BEV powertrain one day. 100 millions of BEVs per year????!!!! No way.

To go fully BEV the global car production has to drop significantly & so has to vehicle usage - becoming more economical & sustainable eg. via vehicle or ride sharing. And all the traffic & transport managed better & optimized by IT solutions (incl. autonomous driving etc).

BEV paradigm CAN NOT be just copy/pasted into current petrol / ICEV based production, ownership & usage situation. BEV paradigm is completely new one, dictating completely new mindset & solutions.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Yeah, yeah, yeah ... Everybody is launching BEVs now ... BUT ... Nobody is really talking about the production capacity here!!!!!!

Such cars are useless when production capacity is limited to several 10k / year only - due to limited supply of batteries or limited production facilities in general. BEVs are still hard to get! While the demand is growing.

IM...

And even more important are the charging stations and how many cars they could serve. If we compore them with the gas filling stations and the time needed for topping the tank and paying, which is about 3-4 min, and an electric auto is charged in 15 min, it would mean that for the same number of elcars as the ICE cars are we will need 5 times the number of the pistols in all the gas filling stations as charging posts.

 

[Centurion]

Yeah, yeah, yeah ... Everybody is launching BEVs now ... BUT ... Nobody is really talking about the production capacity here!!!!!!

Such cars are useless when production capacity is limited to several 10k / year only - due to limited supply of batteries or limited production facilities in general. BEVs are still hard to get! While the demand is growing.

IM...

So you think battery cell production will be huge medium term bottleneck preventing VW from rollings hundreds of I.Ds off the production line per day? Any estimates for how many they will be able to produce?

 

[Deleted member 1071]

I dare predict that anti-ICE verdicts by local/state/federal higher courts in Europe as well as anti-ICE legislation by Brussel Eurocrats in general will lead to BEV vehicle dominance in the EU by 2030 at the very latest. The dynamics of this particular issue are quite overwhelming.

 

[Centurion]

Prototype reviews are out and my biggest takeaway is that the I.D will not be a Tesla, iPace or Tycan on the cheap!

With an estimated acceleration of 0-62mph in 9 seconds you can forget about beating pikes peak records, let alone beating hot hatches are traffic lights. In fact, the Nissan Leaf is faster at 7.9sec.

It’s clear that VW intend in keeping the price low and maximising mileage out of the batteries rather than encouraging spirited driving which reduces range.

Weight is also s factor as it will be estimated to weigh around 2,000kg. A 93hp VW Polo or Skoda Fabia weigh approximately 1,100-1,200kg, is cheaper to buy and does 0.62mph in 10.8 sec.

Low mileage business users or the self employed will find the I.D appealing but for private buyers I can’t find the upside to buying this over a Polo or Golf with a silky smooth DSG paired with the 1.0 or 1.5TSI engine.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Weight is also s factor as it will be estimated to weigh around 2,000kg. A 93hp VW Polo or Skoda Fabia weigh approximately 1,100-1,200kg, is cheaper to buy and does 0.62mph in 10.8 sec.

Why do you think it will weigh 2000 kg? They said that its heavy, but the only number that I have heard is the weight of the battery, which is supposed to be 500 kg. IMHO it will not weigh more than 1700 kg. And also I don't think that the Fabia and the Polo are the correct cars to compare prices. ID will be as big as a Golf from outside and as a Passat from inside. So it must be a class above the Golf and at 25 k EUR is not expensive at all.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

The VW I.D. Neo will be, in my opinion, an instrumental element regarding the (soon) immense proliferation of the BEV vehicle. Getting the related infrastructural issues "right" will be of major importance. As will keeping the price "reasonable" (which I would consider Euro 25K to be for what is promised to be offered). Even more than Teslas' Model 3, this will be a genuine game-changer.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Basisversion für 35.500 Euro mit 48-kWh-Akku und 330 Kilometer Reichweite (WLTP)
Mittlere Version mit 450 Kilometer Reichweite und mehr Leistung
Topversion mit 600 Kilometer Reichweite und noch mehr Leistung
Radstand mit 2,83 Meter größer ist als beim heutigen VW Passat

Der ID. konkurriert vor allem mit dem Nissan Leaf und dem Hyundai Ioniq, aber auch Elektro-SUVs wie Hyundai Kona Elektro, Kia e-Niro und Kia e-Soul gehören zum Wettbewerbsumfeld. Wenn Tesla es schafft, das versprochene Basisversion des Model 3 für rund 35.000 Dollar (30.000 Euro) auf den Markt zu bringen, dann wird dieses wohl der Hauptwettbewerber sein. Der ID. wird ab Ende 2019 in Zwickau produziert und kommt dann Ende 2019 oder Anfang 2020 auf den Markt. Ebenfalls 2020 soll die Serienversion des ID. Crozz starten. Schon im ersten Jahr will VW 100.000 Autos aus der ID-Familie verkaufen. ID. Buzz und ID. Vizzion sollen erst 2022 folgen.

Quelle: Autoexpress.co.uk


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