Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione/Spider Road Tests Thread


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By Matt DeLorenzo
June 2007


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Alfa Romeo has been teasing us ever since it showed the 8C Competizione as a concept car way back in 2003 at the Frankfurt Motor Show. Since then, the concept has been a fixture at every important international gathering, finally appearing in production form at Paris last fall and at Geneva in March.

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Re: Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione

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Alfa 8C price confirmed
Alfa Romeo announces the super-coupe 8C's launch price, and a return to the USA
Alfa Romeo has confirmed today the European prices for the 8C Competizione: 159,300 euros or $219,284. Also the company announced that from the 500 units, only 99 will be available for the US market.
The car is powered by a V8 engine with a maximum output of 450 hp at 7000 rpm and 346 lbs-ft at 4750. Featuring a six-speed computerized gearbox system, the 8C make the 0 to 60 mph sprint in 4.4 seconds and has a top speed of 190 mph.To bad this powerful beauty will please only 500 drivers!The first 8C Competizione will go on sale at the end of this year.
Alfa 8C | evo News | News | evo
 
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Youch, the price is really up there. Luckily they're only going to sell 99 of them here because at that price for a brand that has been gone for a while it might be a problem if they tried to sell more.

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Re: Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione

When i see some reviews and maybe the car IRL i'll make my comment about price, but for the moment it seems outrageous; 160k for Alfa! :t-crazy2:

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Re: Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione

but the thing is it would be to much..but there are only 500 cars
 
Re: Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione

That price is nothing, the car is worth every penny!

I saw an 8C in black at a motorshow last month, and it's got to be one of the best looking cars I have ever seen, on par with astons, if not better, I am seriously in love with this car.

Here's one of the pictures of took of the car, will put the rest online soon!

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Here's a link to all the pictures I took.
 
Re: Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione

We can't see this car as a typical Alfa. It's going to be a classic that will be sought after in the future, because of its limited production and also because it's really something Alfa doesn't do very often. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I had the money.
 
Re: Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione


One of the most highly anticipated cars in quite some time has been spotted testing at the Nürburgring. And just like Alfa Romeo said it would, the 8C (the C stands for Competizione) looks stunningly similar to the concept that made the auto show tour. Noticeable changes from the concept include altered air intakes, larger A-pillars and a general softening of the swoopy styling.
New information indicates the 8C's Maserati-sourced V-8 will be a 4.6-liter with 450 bhp and 347 lb.-ft. of torque. A 6-speed manual paddle-shift gearbox will transfer that power to the rear wheels. Suspension will be double wishbones front and rear. Top speed is expected to be 177 mph, with 0-60 mph in about 4 seconds.
ROADandTRACK.com -- Ampersand - Alfa 8C: Spied at the Nürburgring! (8/2007)
 
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Three more models to follow Alfa 8C Comptezione in 2009
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A month after announcing that Alfa Romeo would finally return to the US market next year with the 8C Competizione, more information about further products is now coming out. Maserati North America will be acting as the US distributor for the Italian brand when three more models join the lineup in 2009. The gorgeous 8C will have very limited availability with only the final 99 samples of a 500 car production coming to the US at a steep $200,000.

The other models will be somewhat more accessible probably in BMW territory. The three car lineup will be topped by the 159 sport sedan in front and all wheel drive configurations. Joining the 159 will be the Brera coupe and the open top Spider. The Spider uses the Brera platform with a shorter wheelbase. Existing Maserati dealers will be the first to get Alfa franchises.
 
First Drive: Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione

First Drive: Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione


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Less than a year out from its return to the U.S., Alfa Romeo has developed a new flagship whose launch will coincide with the revival of the Biscione shield in the world’s largest car market. Development of a high-end niche model like the new 8C Competizione is a risky move for any carmaker, let alone a rejuvenated brand like Alfa Romeo, but with order books filled up and a general consensus that the new 8C is one of the most stunning vehicles in production, it appears Alfa’s gamble has paid off.

Despite being called the ‘Competizione,’ the new Alfa Romeo coupe is more of a grand tourer than an extreme sports car capable of keeping up with the likes of Ferrari and Porsche around a track. Beneath its beautiful carbon-fiber body - its lines evoking memories of Alfa’s glorious race cars of the past - lies a mechanical package borrowed from Maserati’s own GranTurismo coupe. This means there’s a front-mounted V8 engine sending drive to the rear wheels via a two-piece driveshaft and a self-locking rear differential, a set-up that’s sure to satisfy those who love an engaging drive but will undeniably give up some comfort when driving around town.
Interior and Styling
As exciting as the car is to drive, the 8C Competition provokes just as many emotions when standing still. Its gorgeous body, penned by designers at the Alfa Romeo Style Centre, gives the new coupe an instant classic feel and ensures it will remain one of the most beautiful cars on the planet for some time to come. Like the exterior, the cabin is the epitome of refinement and style. Premium materials like leather, aluminum and carbon-fiber are scattered throughout the cabin and constitute a good mix between elegance and athleticism.
Two carbon-fiber buckets covered in sumptuous red leather provide plenty of support but are adjustable only with manual controls. Mounted to the steering column are two sizeable aluminum paddles used for shifting gears, while on the center dash lies buttons for reverse, auto and sport modes.
Despite its performance car credentials, the 8C always remains very practical. The only limit to its usability is the less than average visibility, both up front and in the rear. The car’s low seating position and long hood makes it difficult to know where exactly its snout ends, while the slanted rear window severely limits the visibility out back.
Technical
Under the carbon-fiber front hood lays an aluminum V8 engine sourced from Maserati, a similar unit to the one found in the GranTurismo. Like the Maserati bent-eight, the new engine is also based on an original Ferrari design, but its displacement is bumped up from 4.2L to 4.7L. Output rises from 400hp to 450hp at 7,000rpm and peak torque rises from 460Nm at 4,250rpm in the Maser to 470Nm in the new Alfa supercar. Continuous variable valve timing on the intake camshafts and optimization of the combustion chamber and engine calibration means that 80% of this torque is available from as low as 2000rpm. The engine’s distinct sound, meanwhile, is courtesy of the electronically controlled exhaust system, which features small valves that modify the flow of gases.
Alfa engineers have stuck with the familiar transaxle mounted gearbox, giving the car a well-balanced feel. By installing the gearbox up back, the engine could be mounted closer to the firewall and in turn improves weight distribution. Shift times for the six-speed semi-automatic gearbox can be customized using a pair of levers mounted behind the steering wheel.
For the suspension, designers went with a double wishbone layout with forged aluminum components. The lightweight metal is also used for the brake calipers and 20in alloy wheels, with chunky perforated and ventilated discs used to bring the coupe to a stop.
On the track
The sound of the engine is very determined and involving, and after pressing the ‘Sport’ button, it evokes a rumble that can rival even the noblest V8s from Maranello. Power delivery is very progressive, with prompt throttle response offered from the get-go. Shift up a gear and the engine lets off a bark before the motor engages and you’re shoved back into the soft leather, the low-end torque doing its job superbly.
The engine’s flexibility allows us to concentrate more on the handling of the car, which benefits from the fast response of our steering inputs. Our only gripe is the light feel of the steering, once again adding to the sense that this is more of a comfortable GT rather than a hardcore track special. The chassis’ superb balance keeps the car in line around curves but ease of the throttle too much and the coupe will begin to understeer. Alfa Romeo’s VDC stability control will cut in when things get too rough but we were surprised at just how hard we could push it before the nanny system steps in.
Firm suspension ensures minimal pitch and roll around corners and, despite this, ride comfort was pleasant although we were only able to test it over the test circuit’s smooth tarmac and not the pockmarked surfaces of the surrounding roads. There’s plenty of grip from the 285mm tires but getting them to slide, even with traction control turned on, doesn’t take much effort.
First impressions
To express a definitive judgment on the new Alfa super-coupe after just an initial drive on Fiat’s test track would be unjust but our initial feeling is that it’s not too dissimilar to the sporting GTs from Maserati. The car is still blisteringly quick, no doubt quicker than any Alfa model in recent history, but it’s more attuned to easy driving than being a race winner.
Only 500 coupes are scheduled to enter production and already there are more than 1,200 orders in Alfa’s books, so, unless you’ve already got a deposit down, your chances of getting one into your garage are next to nil.
 
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Nice, any way to fix the article so I don't have scroll for 2 mins to see it?

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Edmunds Inside Line - First Drive: 2009 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione




























Alfa Romeo Returns to America at Last



The corner was slow, even unremarkable. A constant-radius, 2nd-gear curve that happened to be a part of Circuito de Balocco, Fiat's official test track, although it could have been any decent-size roundabout in the world.

We turned the wheel, and as the nose of the car greeted the apex, we squeezed the accelerator hard. As expected, the rear wheels slid wide, and thanks to a little steering lock to catch up to them and a touch more power, we were able to keep the tail out of shape for a second or two until the corner opened up.

It was a childishly simple maneuver, but there, in an instant, was a moment for which we have been waiting more than 15 years.

We were powersliding a brand-new Alfa Romeo — the 2009 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione.

Back From the Brink of Front-Wheel Drive

These are such simple pleasures that it seems absurd that one of the world's most evocative, emotive marques, one that built its brand on pure driving pleasure, has been denying them to its devotees this last decade and a half. Since 1992, a rear-wheel-drive Alfa Romeo has not been available, as a succession of front- and all-wheel-drive platforms was supplied to Alfa Romeo from its Fiat parent.

The car responsible is the 2009 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione. It's been a long time coming. First shown in concept form at the 2003 Frankfurt Auto Show, the car finally is scheduled to go into production next year. You know the wait has been worth it as soon as you see how little its shape deviates from the original, how wonderfully proportioned it is and how it acknowledges Alfa's past without being defined by it.

Its purpose? Think of it doing the same sort of job for Alfa Romeo as the Ford GT has done for the Blue Oval. What matters is that they get enthusiasts feeling warm about their respective brands once more. Both companies realized the need to drive their product ranges upmarket, and a dream car is cheaper and more effective than a lengthy marketing campaign.

This is why all 500 8Cs that will be made in 2008-'09 were sold long before anyone so much as sat in one, even at a price of about $226,000. The 8C will also reintroduce Alfa Romeo to the United States. About 99 cars of the production allotment will cross the pond, and then 500 8C Spiders will be built and a batch will also come to America.

Good Cars Come From Good Partners

When faced with building 1,000 cars that bear no relation to anything already in your store cupboard, you can't simply start from scratch. You have to knock on a few doors. Given that Alfa Romeo now has overall control of Maserati, the door that opened widest was the one with a large trident on its front.

It would be hard indeed to underestimate the contribution that Maserati has made to the 8C. The floor is borrowed from a Quattroporte, then cut and shut to suit the 8C's wheelbase and adapted to Maserati's double-wishbone independent suspension. The engine is the Maserati V8, its displacement increased from 4.2 to 4.7 liters, presently a specification that is unique to the 8C for now but will soon be found in Maseratis as well. It's matched with the six-speed automated sequential manual transmission that came with the first version of the Maserati Quattroporte.

The whole thing is assembled not in Alfa Romeo's Turin, but instead at the Maserati factory in Modena. Which is why when you need your 8C Competizione serviced, it is to a Maserati dealer that you will drive.

Carbon Fiber Can Be Stylish

The 8C Competizione is made from carbon fiber, which is more than you can say about any Ferrari on sale today, let alone Maserati. The shape is distinctly, inimitably Alfa Romeo.

The gorgeous cabin owes little to anything else, too. Nasty instrument dials apart, this is one of the best-looking cabins this side of a Bugatti Veyron. There are plastic parts if you look for them, but these are not what your eyes fall upon, as they are rather too preoccupied with all the leather, aluminum and carbon fiber.

And the view down the hood — an almost lost art these days — is unforgettable. You peer through a quite small windshield to the two kicked-up humps marking the tops of the front fenders. When driving hard, you can use them to guide you in and out of corners.

Speed Thrills

Hard driving is what this car invites more than most, even in the rarefied air of the six-figure supercar. After waiting so long for an Alfa whose direction of travel can be determined as much by your foot as your fingers, the temptation to streak off into the sunset is overwhelming. Only the concrete confines of Balocco stop us from doing so.

Initial impressions are uniformly good. The engine note is perfect. This 450-horsepower V8 has a similar capacity to a small-block Ford in the classic Mustang, but its voice is not a transatlantic rumble but instead the smooth, sweet melody of the true European aristocrat. Hit the Sport button, which sharpens the throttle response, cuts the shift times in half and opens a valve in the exhaust, and the 8C sounds at once gloriously rich, angry and assertive.

There are 354 pound-feet of torque at 4,750 rpm, so if you hit the throttle pedal hard enough, this Alfa sits back on its heels, takes a deep breath and then cannons you up the road, with its fat, rear 285/35R20 Pirellis yelping all the way. The engine develops its 450 hp all the way up at 7,000 rpm, and the 8C will fling you past 100 km/h (62 mph) in 4.2 seconds on its way to the far side of 180 mph. The swiftness of the gearchanges doesn't defy logic as with the Ferrari 430 Scuderia, but it's still quicker than you'd manage on your own.

Let's Go Drifting

There is, however, mild disappointment in store and you find it when you reach the corners. For while the 8C Competizione will slide and slide until its tires are molten, this is not a delicate car to handle.

There's too much inherent understeer, not enough steering feel and the sense that if you turned off all the safety systems and really drove the doors off it, then it might just reward your efforts with an unseemly excursion through the nearest hedge.

We're not sure that we should be too bothered by this. We've lost count of the number of people who have asked if the 2009 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione is Alfa's greatest work to date. Out there, among enthusiasts everywhere, most of whom will never even see an 8C, this really matters.

And to everyone we have given the same reply: It's not the greatest, but it is very good. Most important, for the purpose of bringing Alfa Romeo back to the U.S., it is more than good enough.



First Drive: 2009 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione


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Re: Edmunds Inside Line - First Drive: 2009 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione

By a sizzling 1 minute..lol!!!

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Re: Edmunds Inside Line - First Drive: 2009 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione

Hey, folks!

Ok, since ree agrees that this thread should remain open, i'm closing the other one.:usa7uh:

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Car and Driver - First Drive: 2009 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione








Anyone willing to bet $250,000 that Alfa has fixed its reliability problems?


Engineers were given the task of designing a chassis that was easy enough to be driven every day—not that an 8C will ever be asked to do so—and firm enough to perform well on a track. Although the control arms are borrowed from Maserati, the shocks, the springs, and the anti-roll bars are unique to the 8C and have no adjustments.

While on a bumpy, ride-evaluation road at the proving ground, the 8C’s passive suspension absorbed the bumps better than we expected. One might think the mélange of a carbon body and steel chassis would produce a head-jarring ride, but the chassis tune was more reminiscent of the well-rounded Corvette's than that of the track-oriented Viper. To our surprise, the engineers on hand were asking how the 8C compared with the two American bruisers. We do not think there will be any cross-shopping.

Unfortunately, All We Got Was Rain

A wet track at the Fiat Group’s Balocco proving ground did not allow us to totally wring out the 8C, but the taste we received left us salivating. Power is available down low, and the exhaust note lets you know. Chief engineer Domenico Bagnasco’s inner child came out while on an orientation lap. With every downshift he would shout, “There it is!” with an ear-to-ear grin. “It” is the glorious garble of pops and burps emitting from the quad-pipe exhaust. Push the sport button on the console, and the sounds get even better.

Besides opening a butterfly valve in the exhaust—similar to what happens in the 2008 Corvette, but in the 8C the note also changes at idle, not just at full throttle—sport mode changes three other things. The automated manual shifts quicker, executing gear swaps in 0.2 second instead of 0.4. The other changes are a quickened throttle response and a more lax stability-control program.

If stoplight showdowns are your forte, the 8C will get it done. With an estimated 0-to-60-mph time of 4.2 seconds, the 8C will knock the doors off Mustang GTs all day long. The steering is adequately weighted, but we would prefer a little more feedback. Another concern we had was the pedal placement. The throttle and the double-wide brake pedal are placed too close together, and aiming for the brake but hitting both leaves a “was that a defibrillator?” feeling in your chest.

Nevertheless, this car is at its best squatting down and accelerating out of corners. The seats are placed so far aft—nearly over the rear axle—that even the slightest yaw is easily detectable and the resulting oversteer is easily controlled with the throttle. The 8C just might be the ultimate two-seat GT.

Tipping the scales at 3500 pounds, the 8C is by no means a featherweight. The shocking part is that 47 percent of that weight—some 1645 pounds—is composed of carbon fiber. Besides the body, carbon fiber is used on the dash, center console, seat shells, and a plethora of other interior trim pieces. The 11-pound oh, merda handle on the center console is supposedly machined from a 220-pound solid block of aluminum, leaving nearly enough scrap material to cast a Fiat engine block. The supportive and comfortable sport seats with leather bolsters and elegant leather-and-cotton woven inserts weigh a scant 22 pounds apiece.

What About Reliability?

Plagued with a reputation of unreliability, Alfa Romeo withdrew from the U.S. market in 1995. Our long-term Milano in the late ’80s seemed to substantiate this reputation when the test concluded with a catastrophic engine failure in a mall parking lot.

As you read this, all 85 8Cs destined for the U.S. are already spoken for. However, Alfa, like Ferrari, does not want its limited-edition car to become a means for instant income, so the company is constantly combing the usual outlets looking for future 8C owners trying to sell their car before they even receive it. If you’re on the waiting list, we suggest you instead hold onto it for a while and let us borrow one so we can test it; Alfa informed us there’s no chance of putting an 8C in the press fleet.

The 8Cs will be assembled on the same line as the Quattroporte and GranTurismo at the Maserati factory in Modena, Italy. Maserati dealerships will take on service responsibilities for the 8Cs coming to the States.

Alfa claims it will have other models ready for the U.S. market in 2009 but refuses to confirm which vehicles will be offered in the U.S. The educated guess is that the 159, the Brera, and the Spider, which all share a platform, will cross the pond. Even though this platform, originally co-developed by General Motors and Fiat, has only seen production in Alfa Romeo products, it was always intended for use in the American market and would therefore require few changes.



First Drive: 2009 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione - Previews - Car and Driver November 2007


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Re: Car and Driver - First Drive: 2009 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione

A very exclusive car indeed.
 
Re: Car and Driver - First Drive: 2009 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione

Such a beautiful car. I would love to have one of those in my garage.
 

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