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I know Leylandi is frequently lazy and sometimes biased with how they present and reference information -- but in all fairness to them, the first word of the post is...

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... Japan.
Since he is throwing out figures even for Trinidad Tobago, I asked if he had those for China. :)
 
I remember when the usual suspects made fun of my estimate of RR's profit percentage, not only I was right in aiming high, but I came up very short.

"The evolution has helped boost profit margins, from the low 20 percent range in 2009 to an estimated 35 percent to 40 percent today. Rolls-Royce is the most profitable brand in the BMW Group."

6,000 cars per year
$500,000 average
40% margin
1.2 bn profits
More than double what I estimated

* Nice summary of his 14 years in the brand about a more than successful executive and his resources to make RR fly like never before, again for me it is a shame that he is retiring, I hope the next one follows his path
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The XM started selling a few months ago and if we count Asia and the Middle East together, it must be around 10,000 units or more, that is already double the Urus, one of its main competitors, it is a niche car that is only sold in the most expensive versions possible and its first full year will be 2024, patience, they said the same about the 4 series and 7 series and you see
Since you compared it with Urus... Take a look at mobile.de

XMs , a brand new model , is selling brand new , at a discount (plenty of them selling for 160k ; over 200k sticker)

Urus , a 6 years old model , is selling over sticker

I can't remember a brand new model , selling at a discount , in it's first year of run , at this magnitude.

Here is a post I received:

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On track for solid growth in 2023: Dynamic BEV growth and global sales increase Q3

+++ BMW Group third-quarter sales up +5.8% +++ BEV deliveries climb +79.6% in Q3 +++ Deliveries of fully-electric BMW vehicles double once again (+100.3%) +++ BMW brand remains No.1 in global premium segment, builds on strong competitive position +++ Pieter Nota: “Overall, we are on track to meet our growth targets for 2023. Our sales of fully-electric vehicles significantly outperformed the total BEV market in the first nine months.”

Munich. The BMW Group sold 93,931 fully-electric BMW and MINI vehicles in the third quarter – an increase of +79.6% compared to the same period of last year. The BMW brand once again doubled its third-quarter deliveries of fully-electric vehicles from the same period of last year (+100.3%). The company was thus able to translate customer interest in its fully-electric products into dynamic growth.

“The sales success of the third quarter shows that our customers appreciate our wide range of attractive products across all drive technologies. Our fully-electric products, in particular, are benefiting from high demand worldwide – as seen in our BEV sales, which significantly outperformed the total BEV market in the first nine months,” said Pieter Nota, Member of the Board of Management of BMW AG responsible for Customer, Brands, Sales. “Overall, we are on track to meet our growth targets for 2023,” Nota continued.

The BMW Group delivered a total of 621,699 BMW, MINI and Rolls-Royce vehicles to customers in the third quarter. This represents a year-on-year growth of +5.8%. In the third quarter, the company continued to build on its strong competitive position in key core markets. Between January and September, BMW Group sales climbed to 1,836,563 units (+5.1%).

As previously announced in August, the company expects to see solid growth in deliveries for the full year 2023 (previously, slight growth). Growth drivers include models from the upper price segment, as well as fully-electric vehicles – with BEVs projected to account for 15% of total vehicle sales in 2023.

BMW brand remains number one in global premium segment


In the third quarter, the BMW brand delivered 549,941 vehicles to customers worldwide – an increase of +6.2% compared to the same period of the previous year. Thanks to its attractive line-up, the brand is benefiting from high demand and remains number one in the global premium segment.

The BMW brand is reporting particularly strong demand for its fully-electric vehicles; in the third quarter, BEV deliveries once again doubled from the same period of last year (+100.3%) to 83,211 units. Between January and September, 217,138 fully-electric BMW vehicles were delivered to customers.

The BMW 4 Series models and, in particular, the fully-electric BMW i4*, are proving especially popular, while the BMW iX1* and X1 are also highly sought-after. Models from the upper price segment, like the 7 Series, the updated BMW X7, and the BMW X5 and BMW X6 models, are also driving sales growth.

In addition, the company is receiving very positive customer feedback on the new BMW 5 Series range and, especially, the fully-electric BMW i5*. “With the launch of the new BMW i5, we will have another attractive fully-electric vehicle in the market that will further accelerate the ramp-up of electromobility. New orders already reflect our customers’ high level of enthusiasm for this new model,” explained Nota. With the launch of the BMW i5, the BMW Group will have a fully-electric option in all its core segments.

BMW M success story continues in third quarter

With 48,978 units sold worldwide in the third quarter – a year-on-year increase of +13.2% – BMW M once again demonstrated its strength in the profitable high-performance and performance segments. Sales were also boosted by the introduction of the new BMW XM*, just six months ago. Following the start of production in July, the BMW i7 M70* and i5 M60* models are the newest members of the M family, combining fully-electrified M Power with the highest level of elegance, luxury and comfort. M GmbH therefore feels confident about the final quarter of 2023 and is on track for another record year.

MINI releases new models on the road to all-electric model line-up


The MINI brand delivered 70,384 (+2.6%) vehicles to customers worldwide in the third quarter. The latest MINI limited editions – the MINI John Cooper Works 1to6 Edition and the MINI Clubman Final Edition – both with exclusive design and equipment features, contribute to the strong popularity of MINI brand vehicles. Between July and September, MINI sold 10,720 fully-electric MINI Cooper SE* and MINI Cooper SE Convertibles (-0.4%). With the recently launched new electric MINI Cooper and the upcoming release of the electric MINI Countryman in 2024, the MINI brand continues to forge ahead on its road to an all-electric model line-up.

Rolls-Royce prepares for initial customer deliveries of Spectre

Rolls-Royce Motor Cars sold 1,374 vehicles in the third quarter (-9,0%). This was in line with expectations, given that production of Dawn and Wraith was discontinued in the second quarter and the brand’s production facilities in Goodwood are gearing up for initial customer deliveries of the Rolls-Royce Spectre in the coming weeks. Interest in the fully-electric super coupé remains exceptionally high and order books are already full until 2025. Rolls-Royce continues to deliver Coachbuild and Bespoke creations and demand for Phantom, Ghost, Cullinan and Black Badge models remains strong. With a robust order book and 4,555 vehicles (-3.1%) sold since the start of the year, the company is approaching the year-end with confidence.

BMW Motorrad: Third-quarter sales confirm continued high customer demand

BMW Motorrad delivered a total of 52,037 (+0.5%) motorcycles and scooters to customers between July and September of its 2023 centenary year. Building on the previous all-time sales high it posted for the first half-year, strong customer demand for BMW Group motorcycles and scooters continued in the third quarter. The highly attractive product range, with the successful market launch of innovative new models, like the fascinating Power Roadster M 1000 R, lays the foundation of BMW Motorrad’s success. With the upcoming market launch of the new R 1300 GS, BMW Motorrad will have its most important product highlight of the year in showrooms by the end of the fourth quarter. As the world’s most successful premium motorcycle, the redesigned Boxer GS will give BMW Motorrad sales a major boost.

BMW & MINI sales in the regions/markets

In China, the BMW Group sold 210,331 BMW and MINI vehicles in the third quarter (-1.8%).

In the US, 91,849 BMW and MINI vehicles were delivered to customers between July and September of this year. This represents an increase of +7.8%.

In Europe, sales of BMW and MINI vehicles totalled 221,496 units for the third quarter (+12.9%).

In Germany, 70,901 BMW and MINI vehicles were registered during this period.

BMW Group sales in Q3/YTD September 2023 at a glance

3rd Quarter 2023Compared with previous year %YTD
September 2023
Compared with previous year %
BMW Group Automotive621,699+5.8%1,836,563+5.1%
BMW549,941+6.2%1,621,267+5.7%
- BMW M GmbH48,978+13,2%143.665+15.4%
MINI70,384+2.6%210,741+0.7%
BMW Group electrified1139,943+41.6%385,411+36.1%
BMW Group BEV93,931+79.6%246,867+92.6%
Rolls-Royce1,374-9.0%4,555-3.1%
BMW Motorrad52,037+0,5%164,908+3,5%
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BMW & MINI sales in the regions/markets

3rd Quarter 2023Compared with previous year %YTD
September 2023
Compared with previous year %
Europe221,496+12.9%670,119+6.4%
Germany270,901+17.9%205,775+11.4%
Asia271,561-0.8%783,189+2.0%
China210,331-1.8%602,911+1.7%
Americas113,407+8.9%338,093+9.8%
USA91,849+7.8%277,132+10.9%
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Mercedes-Benz all-electric car sales up 66% in Q3, strong Mercedes-Maybach performance.
  • Overall sales: Mercedes-Benz Cars Q3 sales reach 510,600 units (-4%) in volatile markets; and rise 2% in the January to September period
  • Top-End sales: Strong Mercedes-Maybach (+26%) sales in Q3
  • EV sales: Mercedes-Benz Cars sold 61,600 battery electric vehicles (+66%) with EQS SUV sales up 162% in Q3

Sales of Mercedes-Benz Cars battery electric vehicles (BEV) reached 61,600 units (+66%) in the third quarter, boosted by the EQA (+108%) and EQB (+96%) models, which remain strong sellers even ahead of their mid-lifecycle upgrades. The EQS and EQS SUV models continue to lead the electric luxury segment, with 26,300 (+53%) units sold year-to-date. Sales of the electric smart reached 3,900 units (+107%) in Q3. Including plug-in hybrids, xEV sales at Mercedes-Benz Passenger Cars increased by 19% to 98,400 units in the third quarter resulting in more than 1 million Mercedes-Benz electric and hybrid vehicles on the road.

Top-End
Sales in the Top-End segment reached 246,500 units (+6%) in the first nine months of the year and 69,900 units in Q3 (-11%). Mercedes-AMG sales were impacted by model changeovers, in particular of the GLC. Mercedes-AMG BEV sales rose by 51% in the third quarter.

The G-Class once again proved its unique positioning in the market with Q3 sales up by 11% even ahead of a model makeover in 2024, Mercedes-Maybach sales were up by 26% to 6,600 units during the same period. Sales of the GLS SUV increased by 3% to 13,300 units in Q3 and the all-electric EQS SUV more than doubled sales to 3,700 units (+162%).

The Mercedes-Benz S-Class is still outpacing its competitors with a growth of 9% in the third quarter in China, reaching a dominating market share of more than 50% in its segment. Worldwide, S-Class sales reached 16.900 units in Q3 (-18%).

Core
Q3 sales in the Core segment reached 290,200 units (-1%) underpinned by the C-Class, which saw sales of 82,000 units (+6%) between July and September and reached 241,700 units (+11%) in the first nine months of the year. Sales of the E-Class increased by +3% to 75,200 units in the third quarter, ahead of a model changeover which will see a new generation of the E-Class hit European showrooms this autumn. Demand for the new GLC continues to outstrip supply. Sales during the quarter were down 17% to 81,500 units as production was impacted by a supplier bottleneck.

Entry
Sales in the Entry segment reached 150,500 units (-5%) as the A-Class and B-Class models received a mid-lifecycle makeover. Thanks to strong sales of electric vehicles, the BEV-share of third-quarter sales in the entry segment reached 23%. Sales of GLA and GLB reached 26,800 (-15%) and 36,300 units (-9%) respectively, impacted by part shortages.

Sales by regions and markets

Sales of Mercedes-Benz Cars developed with regional differences in the third quarter.

In Europe Q3 sales increased by 12% to 164,200 units and reached 485,200 units (+8%) in the nine-month period. Main driver in Europe was the new GLC with 25,300 units (+104%) in Q3. Sales in Germany remain strong with an increase of 11% in Q3 to 53,800 units and a plus of 18% to 172,900 units in the first three quarters of 2023. Battery electric vehicle (BEV) sales in Germany doubled to 11,200 units (+100%) in Q3 driven by strong EQA sales (+258%). Furthermore, sales of the C-Class (+41%) and the new GLC (+87%) contributed to the positive development in the third quarter in Germany. Furthermore, the UK achieved a strong sales result with 23,100 units (+23%) in Q3.

Sales in Asia were on the same level year-to-date September, reaching 736,300 units (+0%). In China, the G-Class and Mercedes-Maybach set new records in Q3 with sales up by 35% and 30% respectively. Additionally, the S-Class achieved a new all-time best in Q3 in China with 9,400 units (+9%) sold. Further sales growth in China was limited by model changes of Mercedes-AMG and parts availability for GLC and entry-level vehicles. Sales in Korea increased by 16% to 19,700 units pushed by strong sales of the Core segment (+51%), especially C- and E-Class plus the all-electric EQE and EQE SUV. In Japan, sales were up by 3% to 11,600 units driven by strong Top-End sales (+37%). Sales in India increased by 9%.

In North America sales reached 248,800 units end of September (-3%). Battery electric vehicles (BEV) sales in the United States more than doubled in Q3 to 10,000 units (+137%), reaching 33,800 units (+315%) year-to-date. Main driver has been the EQE SUV and EQS SUV which accounted for almost half of BEV sales end of September. Top-End sales in the U.S. stayed on record level year-to-date reaching 72,400 units (+20%) driven by Mercedes-AMG (+32%), the G-Class (+61%) and Mercedes-Maybach (+171%). Overall Q3 sales were influenced by model changes of Mercedes-AMG derivatives and parts availability for the GLC.

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Smart delivers over 42,000 vehicles in Q3
How is this explained? (I know you put the source and everything and it's not your fault), but it ended up being fake news as big as a house.

Some pearls:

*Mercedes, given the drop in sales in all segments, "falsely" adding Smarts to the total as "Mercedes passenger cars" without breaking down the total figure without them included.

*Despite that, the BMW brand alone has 100,000+ units more and there is still the Q4 so that the difference with its rival is overwhelming.

*If, as Mercedes did by adding Smart, we add MINI, the difference until the Q3 is more than 300,000 units

*Bottleneck, lack of parts, etc., are repeated like a parrot in the Mercedes report to try to justify that they are losing for the third consecutive year.

*The interesting thIng is that the 10 years of the pre, during and post Bangle era that BMW was ahead in sales was due to BMW's audacity in designs but much to the launch of new segments as a pioneer and that Mercedes did not have.
But today Mercedes has the same amount or even more, so the situation is different - more serious since their strategy seems to be the wrong one, 3 same sausages for several generations, the quality, and the poorly received designs are starting to hurt them.
But hey, that the new E Class is equal to the old one is "the best or nothing"
 
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