Hot! I just picked up 2 x classic bmw Cabriolets
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Rainer271
Kraftwagen König
Karosserie Baur
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A BMW BAUR Landaulet TC4.
An Opel Kadett C 1.2 Aero.
BMW E21 320/6 Baur TC1
Baur is a Karosserie or coachbuilder in Stuttgart, Germany, which has been building BMWconvertibles since the 1930s. Currently, they are the body and assembly works for IVM Automotive, a member the Ed Group. They enjoy an excellent reputation for quality and do prototype work for many manufacturers such as Porsche, Audi and Ford.
The Baur family received a patent for the design of a folding top for luxury automobiles about the time BMW was building the first car with the BMW name.[citation needed]
Baur was established in 1910 and produced, among others, 1682 1600-2 Cabriolets, 200 2002Cabriolets, 2597 E110 700 Sport Cabriolets and most of the 450 or so M1's (after Lamborghinicould not fulfil its contractual obligations).
In 1971 they began production of the safer "targa" style body with the 2002. (Targa was a registered Porsche name, so they had to call it something else) Originally an aftermarket option available through BMW dealers, the E21 3-series TC1 was built with full factory authorization, and covered in the factory warranty. The roll-bar version or "Top Cabrio" (TC) continued with the E30 TC2 even after Baur developed the BMW E30 Convertible design for BMW, and which BMW built.
The Opel Kadett C Aero was produced from 1976 to 1978, with a Baur top. Then there was the Baur TC3 of 1987, which was stopped by the production of the BMW Z1. The cars were aimed at the same market.
Even though BMW now had its own E36 convertible, E36 Baur TC4 conversions were still available, although this iteration was based on the E36 four-door and featured fixed door frames.[1]
These TC cars can be built for the owner at any time, after-market; you supply the car to be converted.
All Porsche 959s were actually produced at Baur, not at Porsche, on an assembly line with Porsche inspectors overseeing the finished bodies. Most of Porsche's special order interior leather work was also done by the workers at Baur.
At one time all suspension components for the Audi Quattro suspension unique to that model were produced by robot welding equipment at Baur.
In 2002, the Baur G-Cabrio XL, a convertible based on the Mercedes-Benz G-Class was shown at the Geneva Auto Show.
Source: wikipedia
far2000
AMG Aficionado
thanx RS,SAYAAF....
the grey one was garaged its whole life, owner was old n just kept it,
its a 1991 model with 182 000kms, with service book history up to
140 000kms. its in mint cond,still has original bmw torch. i just serviced it n changed battery.the color is dolphin grey.the red one has 302 000 kms and is a 89 model.
i paid R50 000 for the grey one and R43 000 for the red one.(south african rands)
IN DOLLARS ITS $5 000 AND $4 300 RESPECTIVELY.
regards
Farouk
the grey one was garaged its whole life, owner was old n just kept it,
its a 1991 model with 182 000kms, with service book history up to
140 000kms. its in mint cond,still has original bmw torch. i just serviced it n changed battery.the color is dolphin grey.the red one has 302 000 kms and is a 89 model.
i paid R50 000 for the grey one and R43 000 for the red one.(south african rands)
IN DOLLARS ITS $5 000 AND $4 300 RESPECTIVELY.
regards
Farouk
far2000
AMG Aficionado
A BIT MORE INFO:
BAUR
Karosserie Baur is a German coachbuilder with over eighty years' experience of modifying BMW shells. They are responsible for producing the E30 Baur Convertible, known on the E30 Zone simply as a Baur, as well as designing the official E30 Cabriolet.
Contents [hide]
1 Overview
2 Production
3 Identification
4 Construction
5 Baur Coupe
6 Register
Overview
Baur M3
Baur M3
When the E30 was originally launched in 1982, it was only offered in a two-door Saloon shell, with a four-door version appearing soon after. BMW had no immediate plans to offer a Cabriolet, although they knew there was a demand for a soft top. So in co-operation with Karosserie Baur, they offered a roof conversion as an optional extra, which saw the main roof skin and rear window removed and replaced with a folding canvas roof. This was a design that had seen success on the earlier E21 where it was known as a "Top Cabriolet" or TC. The Baur E30 is known as the TC2.
Despite the introduction of the official E30 Cabriolet in 1987, BMW's long history with Baur meant that the TC2 conversion was still available as an option for Saloon models for the entirety of production, finishing in 1991. While never as popular as convertibles, it is still possible to find Baur versions of the entire E30 model range, from the 316 to the 318iS, and even an M3 version was constructed.
Production
Total Baur production was 10,865 in Europe, and 3,561 in South Africa. This was broken down into the following quantities:
316: 1362
316i: 1805
318i: 2377
318iS: 97
320i: 2538
323i: 1660
325e: 430
325i: 481
325iX: 114
Of these, 1806 units were delivered to the UK.
Identification
The cost of a Baur conversion was extremely expensive at the time (£3,795.00 at 1987 prices), so it was not uncommon to see DIY conversions done by backstreet garages on standard E30 shells.
Genuine Baurs carry an identification plate from the factory, located on the left side door shut. The plate will detail the factory name (Karosserie Baur) as well as the build number of the car, and the specified roof colour.
The first TC2 Baur was numbered B40001. Therefore, a Baur with the number B500381 will be the 10,381st Baur produced.
Following the build number will be the roof code, a two-digit number between 10 and 19. This determines the roof material and colour, and is:
10 PVC white
11 PVC black
12 PVC sand
13 Sonnenland black
14 Sonnenland blue
15 Sonnenland brown
16 Sonnenland winered
17 Sonnenland darkgreen
18 Sonnenland sand
19 Sonnenland white
Construction
As a respectable coachbuilder, Baur put a lot of time and effort into the design of the TC2. The aim was to build more than just a cabriolet; their roof design would also offer targa- and landau-style open tops as well.
This meant that the soft fabric roof would be split into two parts, with the division across the B-pillars. These two parts could then be individually removed. In that way, removing the forward section offered the same roof as Porsche, who owned the copyright to the "targa" name, while removing just the rear section offered a landau rear opening. Removing both sections converted the car to a full cabriolet.
To do this, it was necessary to stiffen the shell so that neither safety nor performance would be compromised once the roof was removed. Baur therefore designed a "cage", a reinforced frame that runs under the roof gutters and C-pillars, connected across the boot and roof by lateral bars to form a roll-bar. Two holes are drilled in the frame of the side windows to locate the frame, and then the whole construction is welded to the existing E30 structure.
Unfortunately over time, the locating holes let in moisture, allowing rust to develop between the frame and the car body. Once the rust is visible on the outside, it usually means the car is beyond economical repair.
Baur Coupe
A very rare model, built as a test platform by Baur and Kohl, was a genuine E30 Coupe. Compared to the 2-door Saloon, the Coupe featured a significantly larger rear screen and a much smaller space between the B- and C-pillars, making the rake of the rear window a lot shallower. The overall body length was not reduced, but the profile of the car aimed at a fastback design, with the possibility of a future hatchback. However, the design never saw serious production and only four Baur-Kohl Coupes are known to exist. Learn more about the Baur-Kohl Coupe
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BAUR
Karosserie Baur is a German coachbuilder with over eighty years' experience of modifying BMW shells. They are responsible for producing the E30 Baur Convertible, known on the E30 Zone simply as a Baur, as well as designing the official E30 Cabriolet.
Contents [hide]
1 Overview
2 Production
3 Identification
4 Construction
5 Baur Coupe
6 Register
Overview
Baur M3
Baur M3
When the E30 was originally launched in 1982, it was only offered in a two-door Saloon shell, with a four-door version appearing soon after. BMW had no immediate plans to offer a Cabriolet, although they knew there was a demand for a soft top. So in co-operation with Karosserie Baur, they offered a roof conversion as an optional extra, which saw the main roof skin and rear window removed and replaced with a folding canvas roof. This was a design that had seen success on the earlier E21 where it was known as a "Top Cabriolet" or TC. The Baur E30 is known as the TC2.
Despite the introduction of the official E30 Cabriolet in 1987, BMW's long history with Baur meant that the TC2 conversion was still available as an option for Saloon models for the entirety of production, finishing in 1991. While never as popular as convertibles, it is still possible to find Baur versions of the entire E30 model range, from the 316 to the 318iS, and even an M3 version was constructed.
Production
Total Baur production was 10,865 in Europe, and 3,561 in South Africa. This was broken down into the following quantities:
316: 1362
316i: 1805
318i: 2377
318iS: 97
320i: 2538
323i: 1660
325e: 430
325i: 481
325iX: 114
Of these, 1806 units were delivered to the UK.
Identification
The cost of a Baur conversion was extremely expensive at the time (£3,795.00 at 1987 prices), so it was not uncommon to see DIY conversions done by backstreet garages on standard E30 shells.
Genuine Baurs carry an identification plate from the factory, located on the left side door shut. The plate will detail the factory name (Karosserie Baur) as well as the build number of the car, and the specified roof colour.
The first TC2 Baur was numbered B40001. Therefore, a Baur with the number B500381 will be the 10,381st Baur produced.
Following the build number will be the roof code, a two-digit number between 10 and 19. This determines the roof material and colour, and is:
10 PVC white
11 PVC black
12 PVC sand
13 Sonnenland black
14 Sonnenland blue
15 Sonnenland brown
16 Sonnenland winered
17 Sonnenland darkgreen
18 Sonnenland sand
19 Sonnenland white
Construction
As a respectable coachbuilder, Baur put a lot of time and effort into the design of the TC2. The aim was to build more than just a cabriolet; their roof design would also offer targa- and landau-style open tops as well.
This meant that the soft fabric roof would be split into two parts, with the division across the B-pillars. These two parts could then be individually removed. In that way, removing the forward section offered the same roof as Porsche, who owned the copyright to the "targa" name, while removing just the rear section offered a landau rear opening. Removing both sections converted the car to a full cabriolet.
To do this, it was necessary to stiffen the shell so that neither safety nor performance would be compromised once the roof was removed. Baur therefore designed a "cage", a reinforced frame that runs under the roof gutters and C-pillars, connected across the boot and roof by lateral bars to form a roll-bar. Two holes are drilled in the frame of the side windows to locate the frame, and then the whole construction is welded to the existing E30 structure.
Unfortunately over time, the locating holes let in moisture, allowing rust to develop between the frame and the car body. Once the rust is visible on the outside, it usually means the car is beyond economical repair.
Baur Coupe
A very rare model, built as a test platform by Baur and Kohl, was a genuine E30 Coupe. Compared to the 2-door Saloon, the Coupe featured a significantly larger rear screen and a much smaller space between the B- and C-pillars, making the rake of the rear window a lot shallower. The overall body length was not reduced, but the profile of the car aimed at a fastback design, with the possibility of a future hatchback. However, the design never saw serious production and only four Baur-Kohl Coupes are known to exist. Learn more about the Baur-Kohl Coupe
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Mr Robert
Kraftwagen König
May I ask why buy two E30 Baur and not one and something else?
No.
Giannis
Staff member
Rainer271
Kraftwagen König
Mr Robert
Kraftwagen König
klier
Premium
Look, I too just like to buy two of old BMW:s
Didn't you say you were sending one to me?
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