New Zealand Autocar: Audi RS4 vs Subaru S204 vs Ford F6 Typhoon vs Chrysler 300C SRT8
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CorpusCallosum
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Re: New Zealand Autocar: Audi RS4 vs Subaru S204 vs Ford F6 Typhoon vs Chrysler 300C
How cools the ford falcon look
i actually love thw ild colours they have haha... its not the same boring colours everyone else has... i wonder if americans would buy this car.. my bet is yep they would??? WHat do you guys think?
How cools the ford falcon look
i actually love thw ild colours they have haha... its not the same boring colours everyone else has... i wonder if americans would buy this car.. my bet is yep they would??? WHat do you guys think?Re: New Zealand Autocar: Audi RS4 vs Subaru S204 vs Ford F6 Typhoon vs Chrysler 300C
There was thread on a GM Forum about the Ford Falcon possibly being sold in the USA, and the yanks over there said No. They wouldn't buy one because it look like an Acura and it looks bland.
Just think about it, so the Monaro wasn't all that pretty, and despite the revision which added a pair of nostrils on the bonnet to make it look more menacing, Americans still didn't give a flyinf f*** about the Pontiac GTO.
They begged for a 4-seater RWD V8 Coupé from GM. Holden delivered that, and yet they said it looked too European for a muscle car. What's wrong with that? What does matter is that underneath, the Monaro was a proper muscle car.
How cools the ford falcon look
There was thread on a GM Forum about the Ford Falcon possibly being sold in the USA, and the yanks over there said No. They wouldn't buy one because it look like an Acura and it looks bland.
Just think about it, so the Monaro wasn't all that pretty, and despite the revision which added a pair of nostrils on the bonnet to make it look more menacing, Americans still didn't give a flyinf f*** about the Pontiac GTO.
They begged for a 4-seater RWD V8 Coupé from GM. Holden delivered that, and yet they said it looked too European for a muscle car. What's wrong with that? What does matter is that underneath, the Monaro was a proper muscle car.
SDNR
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Re: New Zealand Autocar: Audi RS4 vs Subaru S204 vs Ford F6 Typhoon vs Chrysler 300C
^^It would seem the big trend in the US is the SUV-look -- in other words, big and boxy -- really masculine and menacing-looking vehicles. Perhaps that is why even the RR Phantom has sold so well. Maybe in post-911 America they want cars which look and feel like fortresses on wheels.
^^It would seem the big trend in the US is the SUV-look -- in other words, big and boxy -- really masculine and menacing-looking vehicles. Perhaps that is why even the RR Phantom has sold so well. Maybe in post-911 America they want cars which look and feel like fortresses on wheels.
Re: New Zealand Autocar: Audi RS4 vs Subaru S204 vs Ford F6 Typhoon vs Chrysler 300C
Thanks for the article mate. I wish the Aussie publications will add the weight distribution figures in their technical data section as well.
After looking at those figures, I am surprised to see the Audi is very nose heavy. 1029 Kg up the front wheels, almost 60% of the weight at the front, dam that is FWD type of weight distribution figures, something similar to a hot hatch. Full credit the chassis engineers for fine tuning the car. 40:60 torque distribution can only do so much, as demonstrated by the understeering S6, so those guys did an extrememly good job by making the RS4 a sharp cornering machine.
Love the Typhoon, it looks pretty dam good in those colour combination. I saw a few of them on the road, and I can't really stop looking at them. The yanks don't want them cause they are "too small" for the market, even thoug the Falcon will beat most of them in driving dynamics, quality and overall refinement. The Falcon has full IRS with control blade linkage, I don't think many American cars have those.
Thanks for the article mate. I wish the Aussie publications will add the weight distribution figures in their technical data section as well.
After looking at those figures, I am surprised to see the Audi is very nose heavy. 1029 Kg up the front wheels, almost 60% of the weight at the front, dam that is FWD type of weight distribution figures, something similar to a hot hatch. Full credit the chassis engineers for fine tuning the car. 40:60 torque distribution can only do so much, as demonstrated by the understeering S6, so those guys did an extrememly good job by making the RS4 a sharp cornering machine.
Love the Typhoon, it looks pretty dam good in those colour combination. I saw a few of them on the road, and I can't really stop looking at them. The yanks don't want them cause they are "too small" for the market, even thoug the Falcon will beat most of them in driving dynamics, quality and overall refinement. The Falcon has full IRS with control blade linkage, I don't think many American cars have those.
martinbo
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Re: New Zealand Autocar: Audi RS4 vs Subaru S204 vs Ford F6 Typhoon vs Chrysler 300C
S204 - My ultimate Impreza of the outgoing generation. What mind-blowing point-to-point ability. Sadly the all too real criticism of Subaru's less than special interior looks to continue with the new generation car. Dashtop plastics just aren't up to scratch, which is a shame.
S204 - My ultimate Impreza of the outgoing generation. What mind-blowing point-to-point ability. Sadly the all too real criticism of Subaru's less than special interior looks to continue with the new generation car. Dashtop plastics just aren't up to scratch, which is a shame.
Re: New Zealand Autocar: Audi RS4 vs Subaru S204 vs Ford F6 Typhoon vs Chrysler 300C
Interestingly the S204 has the same weight distribution. Power split on the S204 is variable though from a 65/35 to 50/50 split. 65/35 definitely gives a touch of oversteer which is very useful on the twisty bits on a track.
Interestingly the S204 has the same weight distribution. Power split on the S204 is variable though from a 65/35 to 50/50 split. 65/35 definitely gives a touch of oversteer which is very useful on the twisty bits on a track.
NarutoRamen
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Re: New Zealand Autocar: Audi RS4 vs Subaru S204 vs Ford F6 Typhoon vs Chrysler 300C
Well those people on that forum must be stupid because obviously, ford's "American" design isn't selling at all.
The reason people didn't give a crap about GTO was because of the fact that it was a Monaro. Many people knew that and those that didn't but were prospective buyers shied away from it because of the GTO badge. When people think of GTO think of old school muscle like the 'Stangs or Hemi chargers and not a rebadged Australian car with a generic shape. I'm not saying that the Monaro/GTO is bad, I drove one on track and it was fun and is definitely a bang for the buck. The problem was that they gave it a name of an Icon that Monaro wasn't. If they called the Monaro anything other than a GTO then it might've done better, but that GTO put a sour taste in people's mouth.
But I will say this, people on "American" forums are way too biased. They seriously have no idea about design, and the sad thing is that FoMoCo and GM looks at them and thinks that's the rest of the country thinks the same way.
Most people I know don't just buy japanese because they're reliable, but also because they look better than American cars.
Well those people on that forum must be stupid because obviously, ford's "American" design isn't selling at all.
The reason people didn't give a crap about GTO was because of the fact that it was a Monaro. Many people knew that and those that didn't but were prospective buyers shied away from it because of the GTO badge. When people think of GTO think of old school muscle like the 'Stangs or Hemi chargers and not a rebadged Australian car with a generic shape. I'm not saying that the Monaro/GTO is bad, I drove one on track and it was fun and is definitely a bang for the buck. The problem was that they gave it a name of an Icon that Monaro wasn't. If they called the Monaro anything other than a GTO then it might've done better, but that GTO put a sour taste in people's mouth.
But I will say this, people on "American" forums are way too biased. They seriously have no idea about design, and the sad thing is that FoMoCo and GM looks at them and thinks that's the rest of the country thinks the same way.
Most people I know don't just buy japanese because they're reliable, but also because they look better than American cars.
