GT [Official] The all-new Mercedes-AMG GT Coupé

[AbsoluteUnit]

Don't forget the large number of people who buy (base) 911s to bimble about at 30 miles per hour in traffic and never really drive it, but have one because it's a 911.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

The AMG GT is just one generation old.

No, the AMG GT is just starting it’s first generation now. They have taken the name from the previous AMG GT, but this was a completely different animal, with it’s low slung profil, almost half a ton lighter, and it’s raw interior where the dashboard looked like if it was carved from a aluminium block. I loved that car. This new model is a SL Coupe. Period.

 

[Sunny]

The AMG GT is a good alternative

So were the rest, including the old AMG GT. What good did it do? The old AMG GT sold a fraction of 911. I doubt the new one will do any better. Probably do half decent first year and then fade into oblivion.

 

[leylandi]

If AMG had not used this car in motorsports, perhaps they would not have produced its new generation. The same goes for the Audi R8.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

So were the rest, including the old AMG GT. What good did it do? The old AMG GT sold a fraction of 911. I doubt the new one will do any better. Probably do half decent first year and then fade into oblivion.

The old GT was trying to be an alternative to the 911 by trying to be a Front-mid-engined 911. But people who wanted a 911, just went and bought a 911.

This current generation is trying to be its own thing. It's not trying to eat Porsche's lunch, but rather be its own thing with its own character.

At least that's the impression I got.

No, the AMG GT is just starting it’s first generation now. They have taken the name from the previous AMG GT, but this was a completely different animal, with it’s low slung profil, almost half a ton lighter, and it’s raw interior where the dashboard looked like if it was carved from a aluminium block. I loved that car. This new model is a SL Coupe. Period.

You could more or less say that for every next generation product that is bigger, heavier and softer than the prior generations. But hey ho, they can't win them all.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

You could more or less say that for every next generation product that is bigger, heavier and softer than the prior generations. But hey ho, they can't win them all.

With Porsche 911 you could say that, yes. The evolution of 911 has been bigger and heavier for each generation, which is the normal way of going.

But with the MB sports car it’s actually oppposite, each generation (SLR-SLS-GT) became lighter and cheaper, they went down a class each time. This time it has not gotten cheaper, but blander - now it is a grand turismo instead of a supercar. So MB has changed the classification for each generation, this is more like revolution instead of evolution.

 

[AndreB]

911 wannabe or not, it has one thing that the 911 doesn't: A throaty and thunderous V8.

CEO's and bank managers don't want to attract too much attention that's why they buy 911.

The old GT was trying to be an alternative to the 911 by trying to be a Front-mid-engined 911. But people who wanted a 911, just went and bought a 911.

The old GT had similar price as base 991.2 which I test drove but felt boring compared to V8, but now the V8 GT is 30% more expensive than previous model. I still own the first gen because it handles its light and handles well.

Handling wise I don't see how a 400kg heavier car can do better, even with rear axle steering.
0 to 100 is close to M4 and MB claims 3.2 seconds as the big GT 63.
I really like the looks of the new model but its too expensive and personally I won't take it over a Turbo S.

 

[Sunny]

The old GT was trying to be an alternative to the 911 by trying to be a Front-mid-engined 911. But people who wanted a 911, just went and bought a 911.

This current generation is trying to be its own thing. It's not trying to eat Porsche's lunch, but rather be its own thing with its own character.

At least that's the impression I got.

Could be. The impression I got is, the new one is a compromise made on an existing platform to save some money.

And maybe you are right and it is trying to create it's own market, but I don't think there is a big enough market for a 2 ton sports car. Guess time will tell.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

CEO's and bank managers don't want to attract too much attention that's why they buy 911.



The old GT had similar price as base 991.2 which I test drove but felt boring compared to V8, but now the V8 GT is 30% more expensive than previous model. I still own the first gen because it handles its light and handles well.

Handling wise I don't see how a 400kg heavier car can do better, even with rear axle steering.
0 to 100 is close to M4 and MB claims 3.2 seconds as the big GT 63.
I really like the looks of the new model but its too expensive and personally I won't take it over a Turbo S.

Drive it and find out I guess.

And the 0-100 times are all underrated. RBR recorded a 2.9. Which is far quicker than any of the previous GTs barring the GT Black....maybe.

At the end of the day, the old GT didn't sell well and the customers who did buy it wanted a more comfortable and practical car. And so that's what they made.

They've put a lot of money into the platform and they need a return.

The people who have driven it so far, seem to think it drives more than fine for its weight. Some even think it's an overall better product than the original GT.

I don't doubt there will be a plethora of lighter, more focused variants down the line. How much lighter? Who knows, but they will want value out of the platform and they'll make as many variants as they need.

 

[Fastpaddy]

The same was said about GTR, R8, previous AMG GT and probably a handful of Lotus and Jags. And yet, here we are - 911 is even more successful than ever while others nibble at the crumbs.

The AMG GT-R only beat the equivalent porsche models at the track, and the GT3 racecar version has been killing porsches GT3 racecar for years.

And the AMG GT-R is more reliable for track duty than the GT3 too.

And it was more exotic, rarer, a head turner.

Porsche got beat at their own game.

 

[Sunny]

The AMG GT-R only beat the equivalent porsche models at the track, and the GT3 racecar version has been killing porsches GT3 racecar for years.

And the AMG GT-R is more reliable for track duty than the GT3 too.

And it was more exotic, rarer, a head turner.

Porsche got beat at their own game.

Wow, you are so bright.

 

[Fastpaddy]

Wow, you are so bright.

Numbers dont lie

But keep being childish.

I was gonna get a gt3 until I really researched the topic.

Too many gt3 engines blowing up when used on track.

And the AMG GTR is quicker.

Even schmee said it was a better overall car too, for grand touring, long distance driving. And he owned both at the same time.

Facts are facts.

 

[Sunny]

Numbers dont lie

But keep being childish.

I was gonna get a gt3 until I really researched the topic.

Too many gt3 engines blowing up when used on track.

And the AMG GTR is quicker.

Even schmee said it was a better overall car too, for grand touring, long distance driving. And he owned both at the same time.

Facts are facts.

Ok, I will be charitable once. The discussion, that you buttted into cluelessly, was not about performance. It was about sales. If you have something intelligent to add about that, I am all ears. Go.

 

[klier]

So were the rest, including the old AMG GT. What good did it do? The old AMG GT sold a fraction of 911. I doubt the new one will do any better. Probably do half decent first year and then fade into oblivion.

Go to the Nurburgring and see how many AMG GTs there are on Tourist driving days during the week. It's A LOT. Probably even more than the 911.

The car is extremely popular for enthusiasts. New one likely even more so. No 1 by a huge margin are still many BMW models, and the 911 and AMG GT are probably split second.

Even schmee said it was a better overall car too, for grand touring, long distance driving. And he owned both at the same time.

Sorry, but f'ing LOL. Noone cares about Shmee's opinion. The guy 'bought' a Zenvo. And that disqualifies one instantly.

 

[Fastpaddy]

Ok, I will be charitable once. The discussion, that you buttted into cluelessly, was not about performance. It was about sales. If you have something intelligent to add about that, I am all ears. Go.

Maybe you should make it clearer, that you are talking about sales number.

You should also perhaps consider, that a 911 being on every other street corner, is actually a turn off for many potential buyers.

Exclusivity and rarity is a thing.

Plus lets not beat around the bush here. 911’s below gt3 or turbo are a boring proposition.

 

[klier]

Plus lets not beat around the bush here. 911’s below gt3 or turbo are a boring proposition.

Hell yeah, the GT line is Porsche's saving grace. For the rest it's good but boring 911s or VAG rebadges.

 

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[JW20]

I just ordered a GT63 over a 911 not because of performance or engine or features etc. but because of availability. I've been trying to get a 911 allocation for over a year and I'm tired of hearing various versions of "NO". Sure the dealers are happy to sell you something in stock with ridiculous ADM of many thousands of dollars (Southern California market). I'm just not willing to play that game.
So I was able to get a GT63 allocation with a February build date, March/April delivery, and MSRP pricing.