Tuffode
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200 pounds heavier than my was E60 lol. A 5 seater luxury sedan with a big boot.
718 Boxster/Cayman (982) Porsche Boxster EV BEV Electric 2025 Spyshots
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The Porsche Boxster and Cayman are mid-engine two-seater sports cars manufactured and marketed by Porsche across four generations—as a two-door, two-seater roadster (Boxster) and a three-door, two-seater fastback coupé (Cayman). Since the introduction of the fourth generation in 2016, the two models have been marketed as the Porsche 718 Boxster and Porsche 718 Cayman.
klier
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Really hope this is the case. The EV version is going to be an extremely hard sell. Particularly with the rumored weight which is downright laughable for a small two seater.
Design FIRST
M-Sport Meister
That would astonish me as I would think that this particular EV toolkit, developed some time ago, may not be able to incorporate an ICE/Hybrid configuration. But on the other hand, now that VAG is more seriously embracing the EREV concept via its new Scout subsidiary, perhaps an extremely compact 3 or 4 cylinder fuel powered range extender could be fitted after all. Actually, this may be a route that Porsche is very seriously considering and could represent a path to products such as the Taycan, Macan and Cayenne being fitted with this sort of EREV technology.
klier
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There won't be any demand. It's a small sportscar that already is in a severely struggling segment. People want emotion and low weight in this class, and buy the car as a Sunday drive, not as a daily.
People don't want a vacuum cleaner Roadster that weighs more than an E32 BMW 7er. At least the Taycan has the lease market, fleet buyers etc, the 718 will have nothing of that.
Not updating the current ICE 718 because of cybersecurity reasons was an absolute retard short term decision
martinbo
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All of this. Exactly.
An EV's "natural" sound is unpleasant. In closed EVs they pipe weird, ultra-synthesized sounds into the cabin to mask the shrill whine but - in an open top car where the ICE is central to the enjoyment of driving - I just can't see who would ever want to drive top-down in an EV Boxster. Yuck.
Porsche must be shitting themselves. They underestimated how much smaller their EV-adopting (emphasis on keeping) customer base was and their rush to electrify the 718 was too hasty. The segment is indeed very niche now but Porsche had a comparatively reliable seller (that basically has the segment to itself) that gave sports car lovers a fantastic entry point to nimble, mid-engined fun.
Sunny
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Let me be the BEVil's advocate -
718 sales is already pretty much dead. It is the least selling model in Porsche's lineup (~20k last year). Except for the GTS/GT/RS versions demand is very weak. As for the RS, Porsche makes way more money selling that engine in a GT3/GT3RS, so effectively each one is a loss. So from a business POV, converting 718 to an EV is probably the least risky move.
Personally, yea the GTS/GT4/RS models are obviously very appealing to me. But I rather have a sporty EV than the 4 cyl turbo versions.
718 sales is already pretty much dead. It is the least selling model in Porsche's lineup (~20k last year). Except for the GTS/GT/RS versions demand is very weak. As for the RS, Porsche makes way more money selling that engine in a GT3/GT3RS, so effectively each one is a loss. So from a business POV, converting 718 to an EV is probably the least risky move.
Personally, yea the GTS/GT4/RS models are obviously very appealing to me. But I rather have a sporty EV than the 4 cyl turbo versions.
martinbo
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The 4 cylinder turbos were disastrous for 982. Sounded like a WRX. A shame because the 2.5 Cayman GTS I've driven on a number of occasions shunts. Corners nicely too.
So, Porsche started the Coxster missteps with 982 already. GTS 4.0 gave us some reprieve but all kinds of issues incl. PDK supply chain and ridiculously long gearing in the manuals meant that 982 was on a self-engineered backfoot, so to speak.
I guess Porsche needed to set the bar low for 718 EVil.
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So, Porsche started the Coxster missteps with 982 already. GTS 4.0 gave us some reprieve but all kinds of issues incl. PDK supply chain and ridiculously long gearing in the manuals meant that 982 was on a self-engineered backfoot, so to speak.
I guess Porsche needed to set the bar low for 718 EVil.
Says the guy who owns a GT4 RS. Talk about arguing the contrarian position. Page out of someone else's book? KiwiSunny?
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Porsche Guy
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The sad thing about Porsche holding back on the 718 is that giving the 718 better gearing/suspension wouldn't hurt 911 sales. People buy 911's for a bunch of reasons beyond performance.
Gor134
Kraftkurve King
Porsche plans overflow production of the 718 model series in Osnabrück
Porsche is relocating parts of its production from the Porsche main plant in Zuffenhausen to the Volkswagen site in Osnabrück, Lower Saxony.
Your "pretty much dead" is another man's(Porsche's) "we need extra plant for production"
Sunny
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Porsche plans overflow production of the 718 model series in Osnabrück
Porsche is relocating parts of its production from the Porsche main plant in Zuffenhausen to the Volkswagen site in Osnabrück, Lower Saxony.newsroom.porsche.com
Your "pretty much dead" is another man's(Porsche's) "we need extra plant for production"
That has more to do with the Zuffenhausen being upgraded/retooled to make the EVs - https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2023/products/porsche-production-zuffenhausen-upgrades-34371.html. And whatever capacity is left is being dedicated to 911s and Taycans. 718s were all ready being assembled in Osnabruck, so they shifted all of it there.
Also the headlines is sort of misleading, that is not "overflow" for 718, but rather "overflow" for Zuffenhausen. as all the 718 production shifted to Osnabruck. At least all of the 4RS/SRS/GTS are build there now (not sure about the base cars).
Anyway, we don't have to look at these random anecdotes, we have the definitive sales numbers - In 2023 Porsche sold 20k 718s vs 50k 911s vs 40k Taycans and 35k Panameras - https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2024/company/porsche-deliveries-2023-34942.html
martinbo
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Thanks Sunny, I would love to know what the model split was within that 20K. In terms of average retail unit price - $90000?
klier
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We can hope, but it'll take years. If the platform is even capable of such a thing which I really have no clue about.
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