Hot! Porsche: What's Next

[AndreB]

For most people, the Taycan is soulless, especially compared to a 911.

Both are great in their own way, the 911 is a true sports car.
Taycan is a better road car. Way more comfortable, silent, seamless, and also powerful. Best EV on the track, too.

 

[Design FIRST]

Both are great in their own way, the 911 is a true sports car.
Taycan is a better road car. Way more comfortable, silent, seamless, and also powerful. Best EV on the track, too.

A 992.2 GT3 Touring along with a facelifted Taycan 4S Sport Turismo would pretty much be the dream garage for me.

 

[Sunny]

All I really want, and need, is a 718 GTS 4.0 as the replacement for my beloved 981.

Do it! . If/when a ICE 718 comes agin, I bet it won't be a 4.0 NA.

Electric 718? No thank you!

But what if it could deliver the same experience as a 4.0? Would the fact it is not ICE bother you?

Porsche dealers tried to convince 911 drivers to move to the Taycan,

You are just making stuff up. 911 is the most profitable car Porsche sells, It makes no sense to try and replace it with something less profitable.

 

[Swissbob]

You are just making stuff up. 911 is the most profitable car Porsche sells, It makes no sense to try and replace it with something less profitable.

Nope, maybe it’s only in Switzerland the case, because they need to reduce the emissions of the fleet.

Porsche( and all other car companies)must pay 140$/g CO2 over the limit (93.6g/km).

The new 992.2 Turbo S produces 262g/CO2/km the difference to the limit is 168g x 140$=

Penalty 23520$/Car.

Yes that’s insane.

If they sell more Taycan they can compensate it.

 

[Matski]

Yes that’s insane.

It's also not correct.

It's based on the fleet average, and the target is set by manufacturer pool. What an individual model exceeds the target by doesn't set the fine that model incurs...

... but fundamentally, yes. More Taycans means less chance of fines.

edit:

Further, Porsche has a target fleet wide 134.8g, they were achieving 174.5g. However, they're in Pool P11, which is effectively the VW group, who has a target of 121g, and are achieving 118g as a pool.

 

[Swissbob]

It's also not correct.

It's based on the fleet average, and the target is set by manufacturer pool. What an individual model exceeds the target by doesn't set the fine that model incurs...

... but fundamentally, yes. More Taycans means less chance of fines.

edit:

Further, Porsche has a target fleet wide 134.8g, they were achieving 174.5g. However, they're in Pool P11, which is effectively the VW group, who has a target of 121g, and are achieving 118g as a pool.

Thank you very much for your corrections

Edit: In Switzerland their fleet is currently at 113g CO2/km. With a target of 93.6gCO2/km.

WLTP-Tests für Porsche Fahrzeuge

Alle neuen Porsche Modelle durchlaufen die WLTP-Tests für Emissions- und Kraftstoffverbrauch.

www-porsche-com.translate.goog

It’s the last sentence on the page.

© 2025 Porsche Switzerland.Imprint and Legal Notices. Data Privacy Notice. Cookie Policy. Whistleblower System. Open Source Software Notice. EU Data Act

* The stated consumption and emission figures were determined according to the legally prescribed WLTP measurement procedure. The Worldwide Harmonized Light Vehicles Test Procedure (WLTP) for passenger cars and light commercial vehicles is a more realistic test procedure for measuring fuel consumption and CO₂ emissions. The values vary depending on the optional equipment selected. Further information regarding the WLTP measurement procedure can be found atwww.porsche.com/wltp.

The average CO₂ emissions of all new cars sold in Switzerland is 113 g/km. CO₂ target value according to the WLTP test cycle: 93.6 g/km

** Important information on the all-electric Porsche models can be foundhere

 

[Matski]

Edit: In Switzerland their fleet is currently at 113g CO2/km. With a target of 93.6gCO2/km

I believe that is the national fleet, not Porsche's. BMW and Mercedes include the same text.

But yeah, I do keep forgetting the Switzerland isn't quite the EU.

 

[Swissbob]

I believe that is the national fleet, not Porsche's. BMW and Mercedes include the same text.

But yeah, I do keep forgetting the Switzerland isn't quite the EU.

That’s probably the reason, they have their own limits. Unfortunately.

May be they’re not in a pool together with VW in Switzerland.

 

[Matski]

That’s probably the reason, they have their own limits. Unfortunately.

May be they’re not in a pool together with VW in Switzerland.

Not sure, but a quick google shows that Switzerland, whilst maybe setting it's own target still uses/used the moronic methodology that the EU do...

... where it's based on weight, so the more cars Porsche sells that weigh more than 1767kg, the higher their emissions can be.