SLR [Renders] Mercedes SLR gen II

[tristatez28lt1]

Autobild is reporting that the SLR II is almost certain, just the direction has to be decided.

1) Come as a cheaper front middle layout, platform sharing, 650 hp
2) Come as a very expensive hypercar, mid rear engine layout, 1050 hp

Two things that are certain: AWD and electic engines as a support for ICE (torque fill)

 

[mercpassion]

still seems quite fantastical to me, don't see this happening, given that MB with their downsizing strategy of recent times for example;

SLR - SLS - GT

MAYBACH 62/57 - MAYBACH S (X222)

 

[hannaz]

I personally feel that Mercedes can make a space in hyper-car segment as the brand have its own rich heritage on this area from 540K, 300SL to SLR which all were the icon of their time. Front engine - rear wheel drive architecture and the proportion well suites Merc's hyper-car. But considering Merc's other strategy of acquiring the potential brand and developing it like they did with AMG, they have a brilliant option on card; Pagani. This successful hyper-car brand already have connection with Mercedes-AMG and their rear mid-engine construction will be a better suite to be more dynamic and good to compete with the present hyper car on market.

 

[hannaz]

Mercedes-AMG allegedly plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

Mercedes-AMG allegedly plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch
German media is reporting Mercedes-AMG has set its sights on introducing a successor for the SLR around 2018.

According to Auto Bild, Daimler’s performance division is currently contemplating whether the engine should sit in the front like in the last SLR or make the switch to a mid-engined layout. The coupe will be the first to see the light of day and then followed by a roadster and the flagship Black Series model.

The report goes on to specify that if it will be front-engined, the SLR will come with a turbocharged V6 engine working with an electric motor to deliver a combined output of 650 PS (478 kW). It would also have active aerodynamic body parts and a “new door concept." If this one will get the stamp of approval, the plan is to make 3,000 cars per year at €250,000 - 300,000 a pop.

The other scenario depicts a mid-engined SLR making extensive use of carbon fiber and powered by a turbo V8 teamed up with dual electric motors generating a total of 1,050 PS (772 kW). This one would represent a rival for the McLaren P1, LaFerrari, and Porsche 918 Spyder trio. If this will be green-lighted, it’ll be limited to 500 - 750 units and carry an estimated starting price of more than €1 million.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/1151126...ing-new-slr-with-hybrid-power-for-2018-launch

 

[Centurion]

still seems quite fantastical to me, don't see this happening, given that MB with their downsizing strategy of recent times for example;

SLR - SLS - GT

MAYBACH 62/57 - MAYBACH S (X222)

The recession is long over and super cars are politically correct again. There's no easier time than now to convince the board to green light a halo car.

I do see your angle about the SLS and AMG GT being spiritual successor to the SLR. However neither two were cutting edge at the time of launch. They were stunning and irresistible but not exotic.

 

[Monster]

Mercedes-AMG will have to step up to the big league if they are going to produce a flagship super car, a front engine super car similar to the SLR will be competing against incredible machines like the F12 and the tdF version, and having just 650 hp will not be sufficient.

 

[Centurion]

Mercedes-AMG will have to step up to the big league if they are going to produce a flagship super car, a front engine super car similar to the SLR will be competing against incredible machines like the F12 and the tdF version, and having just 650 hp will not be sufficient.

Given Mercedes success in building a success and reliable F1 power unit of unprecedented complexity, they are in a good place to challenge the 918, La Ferrari and P1.

The question is whether they are better off producing a high-tech value proposition like the NSX?

 

[Monster]

Given Mercedes success in building a success and reliable F1 power unit of unprecedented complexity, they are in a good place to challenge the 918, La Ferrari and P1.

The question is whether they are better off producing a high-tech value proposition like the NSX?

Even now, I wonder if Mercedes have enough brand cachet to compete against the mighty 3, as we know some owners purchase these cars because it makes good financial investment. Mercedes doesn't really have a history of producing limited edition hyper cars.

I guess the best option for them is to follow Mclaren's business model. Have one central component ie the carbon tub or the common engine, and launch a range of cars base around those components.

 

[Wunderkind]

A combined output of 650ps is not that impressive by today's standard. Also, the Mercedes V6 engine is to be superceded by the new in-line 6 cylinder engine soon so I think this article is a bit of a dud. Tobias Moers also said on the record recently that hypercars are bad business propositions.

If Mercedes was to build such a car, I think Mercedes should position such a car along side the ferrari F12 and the lambo Aventador.

 

[Centurion]

Even now, I wonder if Mercedes have enough brand cachet to compete against the mighty 3, as we know some owners purchase these cars because it makes good financial investment. Mercedes doesn't really have a history of producing limited edition hyper cars.

True. For the SLR successor to have the same desirability as the might 3 it will have to be more than a schlong car with a big displacement engine at the front.

Only mid-engine will cut it this time around as I don't think a front-engine car is capable of handling 800-1000hp as good as a mid-engined one.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I wouldn't rule out M-B competing at the hypercar level. Granted it was a homologated Le Mans racer, but the CLK-GTR was a beast and the folks at AMG are a talented bunch.

Right now, they do have a good jumping-off point with the M178 4.0L V8, which is probably good for 600-650 hp. Add electrification and we are looking at the requisite 800-900 hp to compete with the "Holy Trinity." I think demand would have it pitted somewhere between McLaren's production numbers (375) and LaFer's ("officially" 499). I don't know if that would make a sound business case though.

 

[Deleted member 25]

Baffled about why they insist on a follow up of such a flop. The Gt and Sls are more than enough.

 

[Bucketslash11]

will it have a carbon tub like the last SLR?

 

[mercpassion]

if they add any of that electric gibberish, that would have it done for me, it would not remotely appeal to me, I simply can not stand electrification of supercars, purely diluting the nature of these supercars big time, the i8 is a typical example, though it may be a fantastic car, but it is not a pure supercar.....however this is the future unfortunately.

 

[Yaz]

Yes please.
MB missed the boat this time around and let Ferrari, McLaren and Porsche have all the fun.

I thought the AMG boss said no hybrid hyper car?

 

[Monster]

if they add any of that electric gibberish, that would have it done for me, it would not remotely appeal to me, I simply can not stand electrification of supercars, purely diluting the nature of these supercars big time, the i8 is a typical example, though it may be a fantastic car, but it is not a pure supercar.....however this is the future unfortunately.

So..you dislike cars like the 918, P1 and the LaFerrari? After reading and watching all the reviews of these cars, not one journalists has said they prefer the car without the hybrid system.

 

[Rolf]

There was an interview in a magazine with Tobias Moers and he stated that there wont be any hybrid hypercar in AMG line up for at least next 8 years if I am correct.

 

[Monster]

There was an interview in a magazine with Tobias Moers and he stated that there wont be any hybrid hypercar in AMG line up for at least next 8 years if I am correct.

Now this is an odd situation. Mercedes now dominates F1, yet they don't have a super car to form a link between their racing success to the road....Why is that? On the other hand Honda has the right idea by bringing out the NSX to tie in with their F1 program, unfortunately their F1 engine is rubbish.

 

[Centurion]

There was an interview in a magazine with Tobias Moers and he stated that there wont be any hybrid hypercar in AMG line up for at least next 8 years if I am correct.

I don't believe that.

AMG will inevitably have to downsize their engines and will need electric motors to compensate for that. Besides that, hybrids are very advantageous in throttle response and patching dips in the power curve.

 

[hannaz]

Even now, I wonder if Mercedes have enough brand cachet to compete against the mighty 3, as we know some owners purchase these cars because it makes good financial investment. Mercedes doesn't really have a history of producing limited edition hyper cars.

I have to state, SLR is reselling in premium price at most of the market and SLS is also starting to get premium in markets like middle east.