Rolls-Royce La Rose Noire Droptail commission


Extremely beautiful, except for the rearlights... :(
I don't feel the light bar fits in the design, but still, lovely and very special car inside out.

The watch from AP is a dream piece of it’s own.
Never liked the RO, Nautilus and all those Genta designs (and Overseas). Can't stand the octogonal cases and integrated bracelets.
 
Extremely beautiful, except for the rearlights... :(
I don't feel the light bar fits in the design, but still, lovely and very special car inside out.


Never liked the RO, Nautilus and all those Genta designs (and Overseas). Can't stand the octogonal cases and integrated bracelets.
The original Royal Oak I do like. Vacheron Constantin 222 however, that’s the absolute pinnacle of watch design for me. Not for you, I guess?
 
Rather than being simply a reworking of the now-retired Dawn convertible, the Drop Tail is underpinned by an all-new monocoque chassis constructed from steel, aluminum and carbonfibre, in a first for the Coachbuild division. It previously based on bespoke models on the Architecture of Luxury platform, which is also used for the Cullinan, Ghost and Phantom.


There was no other alternative as this car will have been in development before specification and testing for the Spectre was final.
In the video posted, he argues that because it was a tribute to the Roadsters of yesteryear, the V12 was the way, it's hard to know if it's just an excuse.
 
As I see there is no Light Bar

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I am hoping some of these design features such as the inclined front will feature with future models. It is perfectly integrated and gives a raked back appearance.

If this was not commissioned? They could have done a short production and sold every one of them. Possibly at a few million a piece,
including the champagne and the timepiece.
Those blacklisted for selling Spectre for high premium would be devastated.
 
If this was not commissioned? They could have done a short production and sold every one of them. Possibly at a few million a piece,
It seems to be a much better business as they are doing in terms of profits and image, creating a class that did not exist until now and was only reserved for millionaire purchases of extremely iconic and rare vintage cars at the top of the food chain while keeping the "vulgar" ones Rolls of his usual line for the poor

As I said before you must build and sell 40 Paganis!! to equalize this and surely the 4 Rolls leave triple the profits
 
It seems to be a much better business as they are doing in terms of profits and image, creating a class that did not exist until now and was only reserved for millionaire purchases of extremely iconic and rare vintage cars at the top of the food chain while keeping the "vulgar" ones Rolls of his usual line for the poor

This isn't a new thing, not even for Rolls-Royce, and it's not unique to them either. You only have to look at some of the vehicles in the Sultan of Brunei's car collection to get a feel for what's been done before.
 
Woah, absolutely perfect.

The front end looks just so much better than the Spectre one. No split headlights certainly helps.
 
This isn't a new thing, not even for Rolls-Royce, and it's not unique to them either. You only have to look at some of the vehicles in the Sultan of Brunei's car collection to get a feel for what's been done before.
Of course, it was a long time ago (not years ago but eons ago) another era, another world, was the norm when giving up the chassis to build them at the level of Duesenberg, RR, Bugatti, etc, and for the Sultan of Brunei, today it is available for any bastard with money.

I mean "new" in the last 50 years? More or less, I also do not think that at that time they paid even close to what they are today at the exchange rate of their time.

I don't know if this RR of the Sultan is exemplary of our theme:

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I don't know if this RR of the Sultan is exemplary of our theme:

Certainly one of the worst examples.

Of course, it was a long time ago (not years ago but eons ago) another era, another world, was the norm when giving up the chassis to build them at the level of Duesenberg, RR, Bugatti, etc, and for the Sultan of Brunei, today it is available for any bastard with money.

I mean "new" in the last 50 years? More or less, I also do not think that at that time they paid even close to what they are today at the exchange rate of their time.

The Sultan is perhaps one of the most prolific examples, but specifically Rolls-Royce and Bentley have never really stopped doing coach built offerings, and while you do need to be as rich as a dictatorial head of state in order to afford the most bespoke of commissions lesser examples are not unknown, cars like the Bentley P116 and David Beckham's factory personalised Bentleys are products of the same system that built cars like the Java, Dominator, Buccaneer and Silverstone for the Sultan, or some of the British Royal family's cars.

There seems to be a fairly long list of bespoke Ferrari's for the Sultan, but also a number of more recent offerings also just for quite rich people, the SP4 EC for Eric Clapton, for example, and Aston Martin who've also done a number of special vehicles for the Sultan are still doing things like the Victor. McLaren's special vehicles division, again has done things for the Sultan, but has also demonstrated their competence at bespoke products such as the X-1... there are likely many more examples that I can't recall, and many more that just aren't known about. (edit: TheSC18 and SC20 from Lamborghini I think are one-offs not sure if they're bespoke commissions or not)

In fairness Rolls-Royces ability to do it in house seemed to have been lost when BMW took them over, with Mulliner Park Ward switching from traditionally being a Rolls-Royce entity, to a Bentley controlled brand name, so this recent resurgence from them is good to see. Previously we saw the Rolls-Royce Hyperion, but this was executed by Pininfarina, rather than Rolls-Royce themselves.

I think the extreme prices being seen could simply be a reflection of current times, but you have to keep in mind that these are cars developed with manufacturer overheads... independent coachbuilders, dare I say - the aftermarket - may be able to turn out similar stuff, but it's never going to be at the same cost or price as getting the OEM to do it. The Bugatti Voiture-Noire is an interesting halfway point, built as a one-off, somewhat to customer specifications, but a car they already knew they wanted to build, and that was somewhere between 10 and 20 million Euros, so I'd suggest again, that the price is as much about cost ammortisation as anything.
 
Certainly one of the worst examples.



The Sultan is perhaps one of the most prolific examples, but specifically Rolls-Royce and Bentley have never really stopped doing coach built offerings, and while you do need to be as rich as a dictatorial head of state in order to afford the most bespoke of commissions lesser examples are not unknown, cars like the Bentley P116 and David Beckham's factory personalised Bentleys are products of the same system that built cars like the Java, Dominator, Buccaneer and Silverstone for the Sultan, or some of the British Royal family's cars.

There seems to be a fairly long list of bespoke Ferrari's for the Sultan, but also a number of more recent offerings also just for quite rich people, the SP4 EC for Eric Clapton, for example, and Aston Martin who've also done a number of special vehicles for the Sultan are still doing things like the Victor. McLaren's special vehicles division, again has done things for the Sultan, but has also demonstrated their competence at bespoke products such as the X-1... there are likely many more examples that I can't recall, and many more that just aren't known about. (edit: TheSC18 and SC20 from Lamborghini I think are one-offs not sure if they're bespoke commissions or not)

In fairness Rolls-Royces ability to do it in house seemed to have been lost when BMW took them over, with Mulliner Park Ward switching from traditionally being a Rolls-Royce entity, to a Bentley controlled brand name, so this recent resurgence from them is good to see. Previously we saw the Rolls-Royce Hyperion, but this was executed by Pininfarina, rather than Rolls-Royce themselves.

I think the extreme prices being seen could simply be a reflection of current times, but you have to keep in mind that these are cars developed with manufacturer overheads... independent coachbuilders, dare I say - the aftermarket - may be able to turn out similar stuff, but it's never going to be at the same cost or price as getting the OEM to do it. The Bugatti Voiture-Noire is an interesting halfway point, built as a one-off, somewhat to customer specifications, but a car they already knew they wanted to build, and that was somewhere between 10 and 20 million Euros, so I'd suggest again, that the price is as much about cost ammortisation as anything.
Very illustrative, thank you!
 

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