Mafalda
Stuttgart Specialist
LOL it even failed to finish the 2,6 km of the Hockenheimring Short with full power in Sport Auto...
Tesla Model S Fails To Lap Nurburgring Under Full Power
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KiwiRob
Autotechnik Ace
Neither is a VW Beetle but it will do it without going into limp mode. That’s a piss poor excuse.
Beemer B773ER
Tire Trailblazer
Erm... how many people take their daily drivers to a track?Car forums - sheesh. Transportation device first and foremost, dear readers?
Then they shouldn't continue to tout the performance characteristics of the car. Yes, all they have ever publicized is straight line acceleration, but even a reasonable person would have a perplexed look on their face if they read the article of how the Tesla couldn't complete a lap of a race track.
But what's interesting is this: All-Tesla racing series gets the green light
KiwiRob
Autotechnik Ace
Note that this is not officially endorsed by Tesla.
WBarnes
Subscriber
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The EGT, is about half a tonne lighter than the production P100D. It's also only a 60km race which makes it about the same distance as a touring car sprint race, i.e. not that long... and since it has double the power of something like a touring car, with a higher top speed, the races really aren't going to last that long.
I'd imagine that disabling - or re-calibrating - the battery protection hardware is a simple job, even if the battery only lasts a season, it's a small cost for a race team.
I saw one of these cars doing a demo last January, certainly quick, but they had to play thumping dance music because on it's own it didn't really make that much noise (from a distance)... which isn't great.
I support the idea though.
I'd imagine that disabling - or re-calibrating - the battery protection hardware is a simple job, even if the battery only lasts a season, it's a small cost for a race team.
I saw one of these cars doing a demo last January, certainly quick, but they had to play thumping dance music because on it's own it didn't really make that much noise (from a distance)... which isn't great.
I support the idea though.
WBarnes
Subscriber
NTSB investigating Tesla crash, fire that killed 2 Florida teens
NTSB investigating Tesla crash, fire that killed 2 Florida teens
The National Transportation Safety Board will investigate a deadly Tesla crash and fire that killed two Florida high school students, the agency said.
Barrett Riley and Edgar Monserratt, both seniors, were traveling near an area known as “dead man's curve” in Fort Lauderdale Tuesday night when their all-electric Tesla Model S hit a wall and burst into flames, authorities said.
NTSB investigating Tesla crash, fire that killed 2 Florida teens
The National Transportation Safety Board will investigate a deadly Tesla crash and fire that killed two Florida high school students, the agency said.
Barrett Riley and Edgar Monserratt, both seniors, were traveling near an area known as “dead man's curve” in Fort Lauderdale Tuesday night when their all-electric Tesla Model S hit a wall and burst into flames, authorities said.
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
Just another excuse to put Tesla in the headline. We don't know the cause of death of two of the kids. One of them got ejected from the car which is an indication that they weren't wearing a seat belt. The front passenger might not have done so either.
Even a 40mph collision is lethal if you are not wearing a seat belt.
Even a 40mph collision is lethal if you are not wearing a seat belt.
tristatez28lt1
Tire Trailblazer
Agreed. It seems that the Tesla cars are more prone to fires than regular cars.
Sunny
Premium
"It seems" or you know? Of course, you could take 2 mins to Google it instead
Teslas Catch Fire Less Often than Gas-Powered Cars
One Statistic Shows Why Everyone Needs To Relax About The Recent Tesla Fires
In a fictitious fact-based world, if you had a product that was 5x less likely to catch fire, that alone would make it compelling.
CrunchSlaughtered
RPM Ruler
This is one of the biggest advantages of the diesel cars, they are so hard to catch on fire."It seems" or you know? Of course, you could take 2 mins to Google it instead
Teslas Catch Fire Less Often than Gas-Powered Cars
One Statistic Shows Why Everyone Needs To Relax About The Recent Tesla Fires
In a fictitious fact-based world, if you had a product that was 5x less likely to catch fire, that alone would make it compelling.
tristatez28lt1
Tire Trailblazer
Thanks for the data. You're right, I explained myself incorrectly. I did not mean the number of fires, but the number of fatalities/injuries when the car catches fire. I don't have statistics but these articles: Again, it "seems" that when the vehicle catches fire, the result is more grave as people cannot exit the vehicle."It seems" or you know? Of course, you could take 2 mins to Google it instead
Teslas Catch Fire Less Often than Gas-Powered Cars
One Statistic Shows Why Everyone Needs To Relax About The Recent Tesla Fires
In a fictitious fact-based world, if you had a product that was 5x less likely to catch fire, that alone would make it compelling.
Statistic on crashing:
IIHS study shows the Tesla Model S crashes more often than other luxury cars
Articles about why a Tesla fire is more worrisome and difficult to put out than an ICE car, resulting in fatalities:
Number of Tesla Fire-Related Deaths Per Year Equals What?
Tesla crash scene posed risks for firefighters
Why the Fire that Incinerated a Tesla Was Such a Nightmare to Put Out
Putting out a Tesla Model S fire is pretty hard
CrunchSlaughtered
RPM Ruler
Lithium is not the most fire proved material, as this periodic video shows:
Sunny
Premium
Again, that is wrong. And again only an easy search or even reading the article you yourself linked would tell you that. On a Tesla, there have been 0* fatalities from the fire so far vs 0.15 deaths/billion miles from vehicular fire for ICE vehicles.
*The asterisk cause it is not clear if the2 kids who died recently in Florida recently from the fire or the crash, but considering they were not wearing seat belts, doubt it was the fire.
Again, all this just shows your own confirmation bias.
tristatez28lt1
Tire Trailblazer
You’re right, but you forgot that no one is unbiased. I’m sure I’m biased. I’m sure you are as well. I don’t have cognitive dissonance after looking at statistics that prove my perception wrong and that tells me that I look at this quite objectively.
The investigation on the two adults is still ongoing, but according to eyewitness testimony, they died in the flames.
Teenagers killed in fire after Tesla crashes, battery bursts into flames
Anyway, it doesn’t matter. This issue is too trivial to discuss further and time will tell what the electric car, Tesla, Elon, Dieter, Sergio, the world ends up doing.
The investigation on the two adults is still ongoing, but according to eyewitness testimony, they died in the flames.
Teenagers killed in fire after Tesla crashes, battery bursts into flames
Anyway, it doesn’t matter. This issue is too trivial to discuss further and time will tell what the electric car, Tesla, Elon, Dieter, Sergio, the world ends up doing.
Giannis
Staff member
Also, keep in mind that no two accidents are ever same, and that NHTSA or EuroNCAP stars do not translate into some absolute scale of safety. And another thing to consider before branding Tesla cars as death boxes, is the previous car of the owner.
If I'd switch my '90 Clio with the structural rigidity of a wet napkin, for a 0.001% chance of self combusting Tesla, I'd still be much much safer in my every day life.
If I'd switch my '90 Clio with the structural rigidity of a wet napkin, for a 0.001% chance of self combusting Tesla, I'd still be much much safer in my every day life.
WBarnes
Subscriber
It's normally the brake fluid that catches fire in a crash regardless of fuel, the only difference the fuel makes is how the fire progresses.
