Hot! BMW AG: What's Next

[Gor134]

The G60 is plain ugly in real life and from all angles the design front, side or rear looks awkward and doesn't look elegant at all like the G30. I have seen one parked next to an Audi A6 and the boot, roof and greenhouse are at least 5cm taller than the A6, which looks so much more elegant and sleek in comparison.

The LCI G30 was one of the best looking 5 series models ever in my opinion and then its successor becomes the ugliest 5 ever. What a disaster.

Its also too big, for crying out loud its bigger than the E65 a massive 5060mm long, just 11cm shorter than the W223 S-class.

I love all the previous 5 series models, but I just cant seem to like the G60. I hope the LCI will be a massive change and improve this ugly duckling.

The g30, and prior F10, were gorgeous with their "Swept back" RWD proportions.

 

[Rolf]

The g30, and prior F10, were gorgeous with their "Swept back" RWD proportions.

The G30 is a fantastic looking car, especially this LCI version. I was very close to buying a 2017 520d G30 3 years ago, it was a tough choice between that car and the W213 E200 that I finally purchased.

 

[azeez samara]

The G30 is a fantastic looking car, especially this LCI version. I was very close to buying a 2017 520d G30 3 years ago, it was a tough choice between that car and the W213 E200 that I finally purchased.

the pre facelifted G30 to me is the worst looking 5er ever and thank god the facelift fixed it and maked it look 100x better,BTW this applies to the G11 7er as well

 

[Titot]

the pre facelifted G30 to me is the worst looking 5er ever and thank god the facelift fixed it and maked it look 100x better,BTW this applies to the G11 7er as well

Unfortunately, after the G30 LCI was done with its life cycle. The current G60 came in, and could not be able to keep up with its predecessor, externally and internally.

 

[leylandi]

the pre facelifted G30 to me is the worst looking 5er ever and thank god the facelift fixed it and maked it look 100x better,BTW this applies to the G11 7er as well

I think it's the exact opposite; the G11 facelift has turned it into a characterless car. Before the facelift, it looked like a purebred BMW.

This thing looks scary. Thankfully, they've learned their lesson.

 

[Design FIRST]

The G60 is plain ugly in real life and from all angles the design front, side or rear looks awkward and doesn't look elegant at all like the G30. I have seen one parked next to an Audi A6 and the boot, roof and greenhouse are at least 5cm taller than the A6, which looks so much more elegant and sleek in comparison.

The LCI G30 was one of the best looking 5 series models ever in my opinion and then its successor becomes the ugliest 5 ever. What a disaster.

Its also too big, for crying out loud its bigger than the E65 a massive 5060mm long, just 11cm shorter than the W223 S-class.

I love all the previous 5 series models, but I just cant seem to like the G60. I hope the LCI will be a massive change and improve this ugly duckling.

I find the G30/31 5 series cars fine examples of a former BMW design paradigm. Upon presentation and well into the model run, they were visually stunning IMHO.

However, when looking at the G60/61 5er "in the metal", I am actually surprised how my initial skepticism regarding its exterior design has completely evaporated. Tastefully spec'd, I find them very handsome cars. I've truly embraced the design. Of course, I also find the W214 E-Class beautiful as well-but in a somewhat different way. And as with most cars, paint and rims are so important.

 

[Esp5]

Unfortunately, after the G30 LCI was done with its life cycle. The current G60 came in, and could not be able to keep up with its predecessor, externally and internally.

That's one perspective, not the view of the masses who have made the G60 far more successful in sales than the G30 ever was.
The incredibly boring G30 (despite selling very well) overwhelmingly lost out to the W213 throughout its production run, and today, with the G60 and W214, the situation is completely reversed.

This doesn't change the fact that the G30 must be one of the best cars ever built, especially the legendary CS, but they played it very safe with the design.

 

[Swissbob]

TBH the G60 is not only the 5er successor but it’s also the successor of the SWB 7er, that’s why it’s so long.

The current generation of the 7er is only available as a LWB.

 

[Design FIRST]

TBH the G60 is not only the 5er successor but it’s also the successor of the SWB 7er, that’s why it’s so long.

Absolutely agree.

The G70 7er is a gargantuan automobile that no longer has the market relevance that it's predecessors once had here in the EU. But the G60/61's exterior dimensions place it comfortably in that particular spot that was once occcupied by the more popular large luxury segment sedans of not too long ago. And that makes the G60/61 versatile. From the more subdued company executive car all the way up to an amazingly luxurious, eye-catching automobile, also courtesy of BMW Individual.

It's quite the same with the W214 E-Class and new C9 Audi A6 as well.

 

[Esp5]

Portrait (Article open for reading) a snapshot of why.....

Oliver Zipse, CEO of BMW, will be named "CEO of the Year 2025" at the Automobilwoche Congress, which will be held on November 19 and 20, 2025 at the Grand Hyatt Hotel in Berlin.

Point of Controversy: “Technological Openness”

When Zipse refused to participate in the politically imposed, radical shift toward electromobility and instead advocated for technological openness, he was quickly branded indecisive and reactionary by politicians, scientists, and the media. Among the most vehement critics of BMW’s stance—without mentioning Zipse by name—was none other than Herbert Diess, former BMW manager and former CEO of Volkswagen. He described technological openness as a “dead end” that would cost the industry valuable time in the fight against growing competition from China.

Now the situation has reversed. Audi, Mercedes, and Porsche are forced to grapple with the consequences, sometimes with losses in the millions, of their premature bet on electromobility.

BMW, on the other hand, not only sells far more electric cars than its German competitors but also boasts the best-positioned technology thanks to its New Class.

Automobilwoche Kongress 2025: BMW-Chef Oliver Zipse im Porträt

Oliver Zipses Vertrag als BMW-CEO geht ins letzte Jahr. Gelingt es ihm, die Neue Klasse zum wirtschaftlichen Erfolg zu führen, ist ihm ein Platz unter den großen Unternehmenslenkern des Münchner Autokonzerns sicher.

www.automobilwoche.de

 

[klier]

BMW has won the 2020s

Congrats.

They won the 2010s and 2000s too BTW. Good times.

At what cost is a different story.....

 

[martinbo]

iX4 spyshots-related posts have been moved here for discussion continuity:

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[Spyshots] BMW iX4 2026 (NA7)

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Please continue discussion on the iX4 over there.

 

[leylandi]

BMW Group on track to meet full-year targets

++ Group pre-tax earnings > € 8.0 billion YTD September; EBT margin of 8.1% ++ Slight sales growth globally YTD September – Europe +8.6% and USA +9.5% ++ Automotive EBIT margin at 5.9% YTD September and 5.2% in Q3, within annual target range ++ Significant BEV growth, representing 18.0% of sales...

www.press.bmwgroup.com

 

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[Uygar]

I wonder how the Panoramic screen will look. They need to add many luxury elements to make it fitting for a 7-Series otherwise it might end up looking bare.

 

[Esp5]

BMW boosts profit margin as iX3 Neue Klasse sees strong demand and records a significantly greater benefit in the third quarter.

BMW’s core profit margin rose in the third quarter as it passed the peak
in research and development spending on its Neue Klasse all-electric range.

The stable financial figures and the launch of the iX3, which even surprised executive director Oliver Zipse, generated optimism.

BMW boosts profit margin as iX3 Neue Klasse sees strong demand

BMW reported a 5.3 percent operating margin even as EU and U.S. levies reduced its profitability.

www.autonews.com

 

[leylandi]

The next NEUE KLASSE model, which we teased at the IAA, is preparing for launch: the new BMW i3. With the eighth generation of the 3 Series, we will bring the NEUE KLASSE and its technology clusters into the core of the BMW brand. Production of the i3 will get underway at our main plant in Munich in the second half of next year. Other locations in our international production network will follow with production of 3 Series variants.

Throughout 2026, we will show how the NEUE KLASSE technologies will be integrated into further models, such as the 7 Series and the X5. By 2027, we will put 40 new models and model updates with NEUE KLASSE technology and design language on the road worldwide.

Statement Oliver Zipse, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG, Conference Call Quarterly Statement to 30 September 2025, Munich

Statement Oliver Zipse, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG, Conference Call Quarterly Statement to 30 September 2025, Munich

www.press.bmwgroup.com