klier
Premium
Not this one only, but the previous decade too. From the year 2000 onwards it was Germany. And let's be honest, it started halfway in the '90s already.
And indeed, from 2020 onwards we will see what happens.
What do you mean?
Not this one only, but the previous decade too. From the year 2000 onwards it was Germany. And let's be honest, it started halfway in the '90s already.
And indeed, from 2020 onwards we will see what happens.
What do you mean?
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I presume that the German automotive industry is beginning to realize the gravity of the situation that they now find themselves in. An element of drowsiness remains following a longer period of hybernation, but the dousing of cold water furnished by Asian and U.S. competitors should leave them wide awake in no time. Is it too late ? My take is that VAG is best prepared and most committed to embracing the challenge. As for Daimler-Benz and BMW, I have my reservations. We shall see within the course of the next 2-4 years.
More disturbing is the environment now witnessed in the relevant sectors of politics. Panic driven actionism paired with ineptitude and a radically litigious , obstructive environmentalist faction are eroding the basis of the integrity so desperately required for cooperation between industry and government. It's very frightening.
This was the decade in which manufacturers entered China and exploited sales "the Chinese miracle", the next will be the other way around, the decade in which the Chinese take the world market, (already started), and if what happened so far in emerging markets is indicative, it will be a big surprise, when the common buyer sees "practically the same car" at half price, brand loyalty goes to waste.
But as always the premium brands for the simple fact of being, are shielded to this, if it were VW, PSA, FCA, Hyundai, etc., I would be worried.
But as always the premium brands for the simple fact of being, are shielded to this, if it were VW, PSA, FCA, Hyundai, etc., I would be worried.
A.P.
Autobahn Explorer
Aventador as the design of the decade. Not limited yet available for "all" and delivering a design package and experience only few cars can match.
Tesla has been the big innovator this decade. Especially with the Model S. Proving EVs can compete with ICE cars.
Performance wise the Hybrid trio achieved some amazing things still standing as straight-line kings going into 2020. Track performance wise lower end supercars like the Viper ACR, Huracan Performante, GT2 RS, 488 Pista and McLaren 720S showing they can be way faster than their bigger brothers and other higher end supercars.
My take on significant models/Cars of the decade:
The GT86/BRZ and Z4/Supra twins. These cars show that by working together manufacturers can achieve amazing things. From affordable sports cars to commercial vans (see for example Toyota/Citroën/Peugeot equivalents) .
Some important events that I picked out:
Dieselgate
Performance shift from straight-line and top speed towards downforce and cornering.
Electrification of everything.
Motorsports wise I became a big fan of Daytona 24h race trough the 2010s. That's it for my take on this.
Tesla has been the big innovator this decade. Especially with the Model S. Proving EVs can compete with ICE cars.
Performance wise the Hybrid trio achieved some amazing things still standing as straight-line kings going into 2020. Track performance wise lower end supercars like the Viper ACR, Huracan Performante, GT2 RS, 488 Pista and McLaren 720S showing they can be way faster than their bigger brothers and other higher end supercars.
My take on significant models/Cars of the decade:
The GT86/BRZ and Z4/Supra twins. These cars show that by working together manufacturers can achieve amazing things. From affordable sports cars to commercial vans (see for example Toyota/Citroën/Peugeot equivalents) .
Some important events that I picked out:
Dieselgate
Performance shift from straight-line and top speed towards downforce and cornering.
Electrification of everything.
Motorsports wise I became a big fan of Daytona 24h race trough the 2010s. That's it for my take on this.
Highlights of the decade that I think marked the evolution of the automobile world in general here in more whether we like it or not:
The enormous proliferation of brands and products, especially the diversification of new products and niches of certain brands.
The cultural change that means that SUVs took over the global clientele, becoming the standard and supplanting the classic sedan, coupes and other more "beautiful" designs, emergence of a less passionate public more oriented to practicality and a high driving position
We have returned to the type of vehicle of the birth of the car.
The dieselgate, a demonstration that in the corporate world there is always room to surprise us and the excessive ambition is part of people like that VW CEO known for being unscrupulous which proved with merits. I'm not a saint, but this man gave a new dimension to the term cheat
The revolution of the beginning of the end for the ICE and the demonization of the car.
Until 2010 the exhaust were normal they sounded nice according to the engine, this decade they began to put exhaust that they sound like racing cars with burbles and more, today they started to ban them for loud, nothing happened but it is and will be characteristic of this decade, it will never come back.
In 1980 I read in a "Popular Mechanics" that in the near future there would be only 10 brands in the world that would own the almost 300 that existed at that time, (some would disappear), I had a hard time believing it ....... I think that this decade marks the beginning of this ease in terms of mergers that will only lead to the disappearance of the most vulnerable brands, strengthening some better prepared and managed and others that will surprise us like the fact that the Chinese are contesting majorities in companies like Daimler
The enormous proliferation of brands and products, especially the diversification of new products and niches of certain brands.
The cultural change that means that SUVs took over the global clientele, becoming the standard and supplanting the classic sedan, coupes and other more "beautiful" designs, emergence of a less passionate public more oriented to practicality and a high driving position
We have returned to the type of vehicle of the birth of the car.
The dieselgate, a demonstration that in the corporate world there is always room to surprise us and the excessive ambition is part of people like that VW CEO known for being unscrupulous which proved with merits. I'm not a saint, but this man gave a new dimension to the term cheat
The revolution of the beginning of the end for the ICE and the demonization of the car.
Until 2010 the exhaust were normal they sounded nice according to the engine, this decade they began to put exhaust that they sound like racing cars with burbles and more, today they started to ban them for loud, nothing happened but it is and will be characteristic of this decade, it will never come back.
In 1980 I read in a "Popular Mechanics" that in the near future there would be only 10 brands in the world that would own the almost 300 that existed at that time, (some would disappear), I had a hard time believing it ....... I think that this decade marks the beginning of this ease in terms of mergers that will only lead to the disappearance of the most vulnerable brands, strengthening some better prepared and managed and others that will surprise us like the fact that the Chinese are contesting majorities in companies like Daimler
The financial crisis and subsequent bailouts should have demonstrated to the manufacturers and the industry in general that it was not invulnerable, and how quickly it could go south when the chips are down.
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
I don't think that the Germans will falter in the next 10 years as they have understood that mobility, not electric cars is the future of travel.
The next revolution is not electric cars but self-driving cars. The impact they will have on society will be monumental.
When the automobile was invented it enabled people to travel from A to B but a few decades drove the expansion of suburbs. Reliable cars and even buses meant that people no longer had live in slums in cities in order to be close to their place of work.
Self-driving cars with interiors configured for work and leisure will change the meaning of commuting which is basically dead/wasted time. Homes in suburbs near big cities will no longer big premiums as 90-120min in the car can be spent working so that white collar individuals only have to work 4-5 hours at the office. The concept of commuting drastically change.
Charging facilities for electric cars won't be as critical as self-driving cars can drive themselves to charging stations over night.
This sounds like the Jetsons but think of the shift we have done from a personal computer that sits in a lounge and is not connected to the web, to a smartphone that we use for contactless payments, hail a taxi, stream content and shoot video with.
A decade ends every day.
advantage20
Autobahn Explorer
Indeed, if we are being rigorous and going back in time until the very first decade of our era (which went from year 1 to year 10, not from year 0 to year 9). However most people seem to spontaneously cut decades into chunks with the same tenths digit (e.g. '90 to '99) because the ...0th number naturally (and misleadingly) feels like starting a brand new decade / the next floor.
CrunchSlaughtered
RPM Ruler
From 1.1.2010 to 1.1.2020 is exactly 10 years and the same goes back to the very beginning.
advantage20
Autobahn Explorer
Yes, but only if we assume that the very first full decade of our era spanned from exactly 1st January 0 to 31st December 9. Yet people naturally started counting the first year as year 1, not year 0, meaning the first full decade spanned from 1st January 1 to 31st December 10. Leap forward and our current decade would span from 1st January 2011 to 31st December 2020. But again, today people tend to cut decades from 0 to 9 because having the same tenths digit just sounds more familiar, 1st January 2010 to 31st December 2019; however this way you cannot go back in time until the beginning because the very first decade would be missing one year, as it would span from year 1 to year 9 since there was no year 0
Not sure, but because a year is so long for us to count, emotionally the next decade starts 01/01/2020. The previous started 01/01/2010 and should end 31/12/2019. It is a point in time. 1 is not the beginning, it is the past time from 0, which is the start.
advantage20
Autobahn Explorer
Right, but if we count this way and skip back in time with decade hops spanning from year ...0 to year ...9, then we necessarily fall short of a full first decade of our era, which would be missing one year and would therefore be a 'nonade' instead of a decade, since it would have to span from 1st January 1 to 31st December 9
CrunchSlaughtered
RPM Ruler
But it is possible also thet everything started on first of January 0000 year. Similar to how we count our age. A new born baby is 1 day old, after a month it is one month old and it is an year old only when a whole year after its birth has passed. It is a decade old on the first day of the 10th year not on the last one.
The 2010's also was the decade for Hypercars. So many mega fast cars launched, the Holy Trio (918, P1 and La Ferrari), Bugatti Veyron Supersport/Chiron and Chiron 300+, Koeniggsegg Agera/Ragera, Hennessey Venom GT/F5, McLaren Speedtail, Ferrari SP90, Mercedes AMG One, Aston Martin Valkyrie, Nio EP9, Rimac Concept One and Two, Tesla Roadster, Aspark Owl, Lotus Evija, Pininfarina Battista.
Shit so many, I can't remember all of them, have I maybe left out some important cars lol?
Shit so many, I can't remember all of them, have I maybe left out some important cars lol?
advantage20
Autobahn Explorer
Our calendar system is such that it has been decided that the last year before our era was year 1 BC and the next year was year 1 AD, there is no year 0. The first full decade therefore goes from Jan. 1st year 1 to Dec. 31st year 10. A given year bears a given number before that duration has actually been reached (we started year 2011 on Jan. 1st 2011, even though that 2011th year had only barely started; likewise we were already in year 1 of our era on Jan. 1st 1, even though that first year had only barely started).
As opposed to us counting durations, birthdays, etc., where we start at zero and reach a given number only after it's complete (a duration reaches hour 1 only after 60 minutes have passed, a baby reaches age 1 only after 12 months have passed).
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