Praga [Hot!] 2023 Praga Bohema is track-ready, road-legal 700bhp hypercar!


Based in Prague, Czech Republic, Praga got restarted in 2011 as a custom-builder of race cars and road supersports. Praga cars are made to order and can be customized to meet the customer's specifications. Its origins date back from 1907 to 1947, when Praga manufactured motorcycles, automobiles, trucks and airplanes. Official website: Praga Cars

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From the maker of the R1 racer, the £1.32 million Bohema weighs 987kg and shares Nissan GT-R's V6

"An extraordinary, trackday-optimised hypercar from Czech maker Praga is currently in the final stages of development and will launch next year.

The mid-engined, carbon-tubbed and carbon-bodied Bohema will mark the 115-year-old, multi-disciplinary firm’s first proper foray into road cars since 1947 and is heavily influenced by the flyweight Praga R1 racer that, having recently proved too competitive for even the full-blown GT3 cars of Britcar Endurance Championship, now enjoys its own one-make series.

Beyond their insectoid and highly sculptural aesthetics, the Bohema and the R1 will share almost nothing, the road-legal model being new from the ground up. This was essential in order to give the the car enough breadth of ability to be used properly on the road, and in terms of footprint the larger Bohema is similar to the current crop of supercars, being roughly the same width and length as a Ferrari 296 GTB. It means that while the cockpit is tight and utilitarian in its architecture, it can carry driver and passenger in reasonable comfort, though this has partly been achieved by staggering the seats.



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The car's cabin is also upholstered with relative lavishness and there is even 100 litres of luggage space in the car’s flanks, package in similar fashion to what Pagani does with the Huyra.
Having spent two years establishing the car’s track capabilities, which included use of an F1 team's wind tunnel to hone the car’s aero properties, Praga’s engineers are now in the final stages of ensuring the Bohema’s road manners are up to scratch.
An acceptably absorbent ride and adequate insulation from road roar and engine din are important factors that Praga never had to consider with the R1, and are reasons why the rear-drive powertrain is affixed to the central structure via a chromoly subframe rather than being bolted on directly.

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Work on the car’s automated-clutch sequential gearbox also continues, and the compliance characteristics of the in-board pushrod suspension, which will use manually adjustable Öhlins dampers, will be the final dynamic element the team signs off.

However, matters relating to usability and comfort are very much concessions, and the Bohema’s main concern is raw speed.

Praga is targeting a weight of 982kg at the kerb, and it’s this lack of mass along with the potential for up to 900kg of downforce at 150mph that should yield jaw-dropping pace on the track.

With as much as 700bhp available, the car’s power-to-weight ratio should be comfortably in excess of what even hardcore specials such as the BAC Mono R and Ariel Atom 4 can muster. That power will come from the same 3.8-litre twin-turbo V6 found in the R35-generation Nissan GT-R, only with the wet-sump lubrication system removed and replaced by a dry sump set-up of Praga’s own design. As well as being better suited to the high lateral loads achieved on track, this lowers the height of the engine considerably and allows it to sit deep within the car. Note also that the Praga is purely rear-wheel drive.

Iain Litchfield, the British tuner renowned for his expertise with the GT-R, has been involved and helped establish an arrangement that will enable Nissan to support Praga during the time it uses the Japanese company’s engines.

Interestingly, chief engineer Jan Martinek had the unenviable task of choosing between the Nissan unit and Audi’s 5.2-litre atmospheric V10, but while the V10 would undoubtedly have sounded superb, Audi couldn’t guarantee ongoing support for an engine nearing the end of its regulatory life, which was a deal-breaker for Praga."

Etc continues in the link it's a big piece!

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I expect to see this company go tits up sometime soon. Only a fool would pay €1.43m for a car from a company with zero history, how much value is one going to lose after taking delivery??
I'd argue that if you make a car this hardcore and radical, where the entire point is track performance, it matters very little what kind of history you have or don't have. And it's definitely not zero, btw.

It would be a different story with more conventional supercar relying on intangibles and emotions. There, you kinda need history. All that every small brand ever does is attach themselves to Porsche or Lancia heritage. They are like parasites benefiting from history that isn't their own, yet people love them anyway. But when a rare car appears that brings something unique, that you'd have to pay double or triple the money to get from the established brands, suddenly everyone is a skeptic.

Why would you think the whole company would suddenly go bust?
Bohema is just the cherry on top of a larger portfolio. Their karts and race cars seem to be doing well.
Plus, the way they went about picking existing components and developing the car in-house is pretty safe as well. As opposed to paying a separate engineering entity for the development and/or investing fortune in a bespoke engine.

You said this early on in this thread:
...I would expect more than a GTR engine, I'd want something bespoke.
If they listened to your feedback, it would be a sure way to make the whole thing go tits up. They would never get see the return of investment on that one.
 
 
Ok, there's no lap time, you are right
I have no doubt it's gonna happen at some point. And when it does, AMG One will be handing over that Hockenheimring lap record.
I'm just hoping for a complete Sport Auto Supertest including Nordschleife lap. They need a production car and a little bit better track conditions than what cold November weather can provide.
 
If they listened to your feedback, it would be a sure way to make the whole thing go tits up. They would never get see the return of investment on that one.

Many of there peers have developed there own engines or gone to Cosworth/Mahle/Hartley to get a bespoke engine just for them. IMO not having a bespoke engine will the nail in the coffin form them. There closest competitor IMO is the KTM X-Bow GTX 2020 which is significantly cheaper, which is what it should be with an off the shelf engine. I'd buy a KTM X-Bow GTX over a Praga, I can't see how Praga justifies the price when they aren't using an engine specific to them.
 
Many of there peers have developed there own engines or gone to Cosworth/Mahle/Hartley to get a bespoke engine just for them. IMO not having a bespoke engine will the nail in the coffin form them.
Unless one has some grand plan on how to make money from their bespoke engine, I don't think it's reasonable to expect a small operation like Praga to pull off such huge undertaking as these other brands.

- You say "many" have done it, but the only one that has delivered cars, so far, is GMA. They had to spread the cost over multiple models now (with the same engine). And on top of that, they sold their EV division to UAE, which I'm sure helped out a lot.

- Nilu just announced their car and it's some ass-backwards business model with track only version coming first. And to be honest, sadly, I don't think they'll get to making the road legal version.

- Zenvo has yet to show as much as a clip of their quad turbo V12 running. They had it designed from the start as a modular concept, so that they can roll out V8 and V6 versions based on the same architecture and offer them to other OEMs. Also there's questionable financial structures behind Zenvo.

I'm happy for Cosworth's new wave of customers, but let's not make bespoke engine seem like anything other than extreme outlier.


Then you have to consider that none of the cars above have such strong singular focus on track performance. The way I see it, as long as the prospective customer recognizes Bohema's strengths, non-bespoke engine shouldn't be an issue.
If you do think that, then you might have a bad understanding of what makes the car so special.

There closest competitor IMO is the KTM X-Bow GTX 2020 which is significantly cheaper, which is what it should be with an off the shelf engine. I'd buy a KTM X-Bow GTX over a Praga, I can't see how Praga justifies the price when they aren't using an engine specific to them.
If you want to hyper focus on the engine part between these two, we can go into further detail:

KTM's engine is not only non-bespoke. It's been used in many ordinary cars within VW-Group. Here's two of the worst offenders:
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On the other hand, VR38 was exclusive to R35. And all this time it was begging to be used in proper, lightweight platform.

Looking at the whole car, KTM doesn't have bespoke tub, it has ordinary VW DCT vs motorsport sequential. All the stats are inferior to Bohema. It's not even in the same league.
Reading KTM's laptimes, it was as fast as Huracán Performante on Sachsenring, slower than 992 Turbo S on Anneau du Rhin.
Meanwhile, the rumors are Praga might be attacking production records on tracks like Nur GP and Hockenheimring. AMG One is the current record holder on those two... Do you think KTM could ever get anywhere close to AMG One?
 
The VR38 is the 3.8 litre version of the VR series of engines, there is a 3.0 and a 3.5. It’s an old engine.

For €1m more than a X-Bow GTX it had better be faster otherwise owners will be wondering why they allowed themselves to be fleesed. KTM uses a bespoke carbon tub, designed with help from Dallara, I would trust them to design a better chassis than some guys in a shed.

Praga are one of those dodgy companies like Shelby that will hopefully disappear without a trace. Why would anyone with the means to buy a car like this buy from companies like Shelby and Praga? I can’t see either car being an investment, neither are attractive designs, both from companies with no history.
 
The VR38 is the 3.8 litre version of the VR series of engines, there is a 3.0 and a 3.5.
Not true. Totally different engines.
You should have picked VQ38. That one at least shares the same bore and stroke.

Most engines have shared ancestry. Nobody goes saying any one of them is somehow bad just because it has descended from the previous, less special engine.

It’s an old engine.
Yes, but that doesn't mean it's outdated. Having a reliable engine with known track record is a big positive for a project like this... It won't dazzle in factory tour videos, but it delivers where it matters.

It shows that these guys are making race cars. It's not some random tech startup in over their heads, propped up by marketing team. The radical part is in the aero platform and packaging. The critical components are all rock solid. I'm repeating myself when I say this is a great match.

If you look at what Nissan has done to this engine from 2007 to 2024, you'd be shocked by the lack of upgrades. These were engineered from the start to handle more power than initially needed. Nissan just slowly uncorked its potential with each model year, but the hardware stayed largely unchanged.
Plus, I'd take port injection over DI any day :D

For better of worse, it's never going to be a Cosworth GMA. My point is that it doesn't need to.

For €1m more than a X-Bow GTX it had better be faster otherwise owners will be wondering why they allowed themselves to be fleesed.
GTX is the race car, GT-XR is the road version. When you say you'd buy it over something else, at the very least, I'd expect you to learn its name.

KTM is the underperforming one in its price bracket. This entire comparison is an insult to Praga.

Hopefully this will help me get my message across. This is the "closest competitor" to Bohema, according to you:
power to weight(DF@220kph) to weight
GT MkIV*0.660.73
T.50s Niki Lauda LDF*0.910.71
Bohema0.720.71
average GT3 race car*0.480.64
Senna GTR*0.650.61
Valkyrie0.74 (0.85 w/ ERS)0.55
Dallara Stradale0.440.55
Senna0.620.48
KTM X-Bow GT4*0.360.48
Jesko Attack0.90 (1.13 on E85)0.40
992 GT3 RS0.370.35
AMG One0.640.32
KTM GT-XR<<<<<<0.440.25 (estimate)
* = track only

So you see, it's much closer to budget Valkyrie, yet you choose to view it as KTM for 4x the price. That's just uncharitable.

KTM uses a bespoke carbon tub,...
The point is, the tub is not unique to GT-XR. It's shared with the older X-Bow models.

...designed with help from Dallara, I would trust them to design a better chassis than some guys in a shed.
That's funny. I'd suggest watching this video to get a more accurate assessment of Dallara's engineering prowess.

What does "better chassis" mean exactly? Monocoques get stress tested and crash tested. If both of them pass the tests, how is either better or worse?

Here's couple of pictures from certification of the R1 monocoque. The test center must have made a huge mistake, because it somehow passed with flying colors despite being designed by guys in a shed. 🤭
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Praga are one of those dodgy companies like Shelby that will hopefully disappear without a trace.
Are you going to elaborate on that? Did one run over your dog or something?

Why would anyone with the means to buy a car like this buy from companies like Shelby and Praga?
Maybe because the car stands out from the rest? How many other sub 1,000 kg, high downforce supercars are there?

I can’t see either car being an investment, neither are attractive designs, both from companies with no history.
Not the point, subjective, provably false.
 
You can post all the stats you like it still doesn't change my opinion that it an ugly car that looks like it was slapped together in a lockup over a few weekends with parts from the scrap yard.
 
Two-parter CarBuzz article with insights from Mark Harrison, Managing Director of Praga Cars UK.

The Bohema combines learnings from the track and the previous road car, and Harrison illustrates this by reporting that sometime after the exterior design was completed, the supercar spent two days in a Formula 1 wind tunnel to see if there were any gains to be made. But there was almost nothing to fix, besides some small "fine-tuning" behind the front wheels that could have evacuated a little more air, which the aerodynamicists said wasn't really necessary. In fact, Harrison says the Bohema is "faster than GT3 racers" on most tracks.
What sort of buyer will be taking delivery? Well, we'll know the taste of the first one soon, as the first customer car (headed for somewhere in Europe, we can't say) will be revealed early next month. Two more will be delivered to American customers in the spring. But in general, although some small percentage of customers will surely be collectors and speculative investors, most are "out-and-out enthusiasts."
Praga wants customers to only wait "9-12 months" for production, and when they take delivery, they'll get something that provides just as visceral an experience without the complications. And it'll always be that way, as we'll discuss in another article on Friday, a week before the first customer car is scheduled to be revealed. Stay tuned.

"We've never had a day yet where we've spent a whole day trying to break a lap record, but we've been to one or two tracks where we know if we went for the whole day and the weather was perfect, [and the] temperature was perfect, we would set lap records."
We asked if there might be a special edition to celebrate the marque's 120th anniversary in 2027, and he half-jokingly said that Praga should "take 120 kilos out of the car, add 120 horsepower." The VR38 engine can take ridiculous abuse (though customers who choose to tune the current car, even through Litchfield, will lose their warranty), and the existing aero package can handle at least 800 hp.
Praga struggled to get the Bohema approved for current Show or Display import rules, which have become stricter in recent years. Altering that foundation will be a challenge that can only be faced with the knowledge of what the future holds, and that's impossible. Still, Praga is using a lawyer to explore Individual Type Approvals to allow greater use of the car in America.
 
Just to point out few prototype-to-production changes I noticed...

New wheel design:
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Wishbones now have different, longer profile:
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New pictograms for the interior button labels:
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New fitted luggage:
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The only change of specs seems to be the 65 l fuel capacity instead of the previously reported 74 l.
And the top speed is now 317 kph instead of 300+.

BTW, Autovisie channel released this video with some nice track footage of Ben Collins driving the car at Nürburgring GP.
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More pictures of the livery...
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Here, the owner of the car says the weight is 978 kg (the factory claim from two years ago was 982 kg).
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