Oilstainlab [Hot!] Oilstainlab's new project - the HF-11
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Founded in 2018, Oilstainlab is a custom car company that creates restomods and hypercars. The company is known for its unique builds, which are designed to make drivers smile. Official website: Oilstainlab
KiwiRob
Autotechnik Ace
There is no way they make the Porsche F6 rev to 12500RPM, especially if they also want to increase the capacity to 4.5L, but interesting nevertheless. But, same as with every similar project where they are only planning to make a handful of cars and have a minimal budget, you have to wonder how complete the development will be and if the car ever happens.
Btw, they have Michelin stickers on Trofeo R tires... and on one of the models the tires are put on the wrong way around.
And the front suspension model is something that's not gonna work. You can't put one of your control arm pick up points on a tubular bar in bending. Not to mention that the pushrods don't attach to anything. That's some very early work that will all have to be re-done at some point.
Or like Singer and Ruf have built a brand new flat 6 to replace the Porsche flat 6.
Bridster
Oversteer Expert
Makes no difference whether it's modified or completely new. You are not getting 12k RPM from 4L+ F6 engine period.
Reason #1: Piston speeds. Because of what oils can take, the max piston speeds are limited to about 25-26m/s. The Cosworth V12 in the T.50 is 25.7m/s. The current 4L F6 has a stroke of 80.4mm, so it reaches 26m/s at 9700RPM. At 12k RPM it would be 32.2m/s. So not even close to realistic. And, mind you, they say the engine is "4.6-5L", so the stroke might be even longer.
Reason #2: Valve size. The current 4L F6 has a bore size of 102.7mm. The GMA V12 is 81.5mm. So the current engine already has valves (if the valve size is proportional to the bore) that are 26% bigger. With that much bigger valves, you'll be running into float way before 12k RPM, not to mention that the valve spring life will be massively reduced. And, again, they actually want to make the engine even larger.
So no, that is just a fantasy.
Jonathan19
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This is the HF-11, a 650bhp limited edition that revs to 12,000rpm
Oilstainlab reveals the ‘socially irresponsible’ follow-up to last year’s Half-11
This is the HF-11, a limited-edition supercar described by its Californian makers as ‘unhinged’. A redline of 12,000rpm in the ICE version certainly backs that up.
It’s the work of Oilstainlab, who you’ll remember from the Half-11 that Top Gear’s Rob Dahm drove last year. That car – a half-sized ode to motorsport tech from the Sixties and Seventies – was just the precursor.
It’s all spun off a bespoke carbon monocoque that took OSL and its partners some 3,500 hours over two years to fully design. It allows for “exceptional modern safety” and technology, but also the fitment of a driver measuring up to 6ft 3in in height. With a helmet. Take that, Lambo Temerario.
Indeed this cabin promises good vision, and better egress and ingress than competitors. And the monocoque also allows the fitment of two drivetrain options.
On the one side, there’s the choice of a mid-mounted petrol-powered flat-six offering 650bhp and that 12,000rpm redline, together with your choice of a six-speed manual gearbox or a seven-speed ‘quick shift’ sequential.
And on the other side? A full electric setup, with OSL promising a “quick swapping system” between the two. The flat-six version weighs well under a tonne, by the way – just 907kg (2,000lbs) - so it should be... sprightly.
That all points to OSL founders and brothers Nikita and Iliya Briden’s ambition to give the HF-11 “grin inducing analogue driving”. As such, there’s a ground effect aero package “retaining a minimal design”. Indeed, it’s a sweeping, compact, aero-honed silhouette, packaged up into a small footprint.
“Five years ago, we knew to define our future we needed to build our past, the Half-11 Prototype, a vehicle that would defy reality,” said Iliya. “In the years since, we have distilled that vision of nostalgia, driving ourselves half-mad in technology and engineering.
“And finally, today we are proud to reveal our maniacal HF-11 to the world,” he added.
Just 25 of these cars will be built – with 11 marked out for a special ‘Maniac’ pack – while each one starts from… $1.85m.
Oilstainlab reveals the ‘socially irresponsible’ follow-up to last year’s Half-11
This is the HF-11, a limited-edition supercar described by its Californian makers as ‘unhinged’. A redline of 12,000rpm in the ICE version certainly backs that up.
It’s the work of Oilstainlab, who you’ll remember from the Half-11 that Top Gear’s Rob Dahm drove last year. That car – a half-sized ode to motorsport tech from the Sixties and Seventies – was just the precursor.
It’s all spun off a bespoke carbon monocoque that took OSL and its partners some 3,500 hours over two years to fully design. It allows for “exceptional modern safety” and technology, but also the fitment of a driver measuring up to 6ft 3in in height. With a helmet. Take that, Lambo Temerario.
Indeed this cabin promises good vision, and better egress and ingress than competitors. And the monocoque also allows the fitment of two drivetrain options.
On the one side, there’s the choice of a mid-mounted petrol-powered flat-six offering 650bhp and that 12,000rpm redline, together with your choice of a six-speed manual gearbox or a seven-speed ‘quick shift’ sequential.
And on the other side? A full electric setup, with OSL promising a “quick swapping system” between the two. The flat-six version weighs well under a tonne, by the way – just 907kg (2,000lbs) - so it should be... sprightly.
That all points to OSL founders and brothers Nikita and Iliya Briden’s ambition to give the HF-11 “grin inducing analogue driving”. As such, there’s a ground effect aero package “retaining a minimal design”. Indeed, it’s a sweeping, compact, aero-honed silhouette, packaged up into a small footprint.
“Five years ago, we knew to define our future we needed to build our past, the Half-11 Prototype, a vehicle that would defy reality,” said Iliya. “In the years since, we have distilled that vision of nostalgia, driving ourselves half-mad in technology and engineering.
“And finally, today we are proud to reveal our maniacal HF-11 to the world,” he added.
Just 25 of these cars will be built – with 11 marked out for a special ‘Maniac’ pack – while each one starts from… $1.85m.
Jonathan19
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Meet the HF-11, the New $1.8 Million Supercar From Automotive Startup Oilstainlab
Oilstainlab’s HF-11, from automotive designers Nikita and Ilya Bridan, starts at $1.85 million and is scheduled for delivery in 2026.
robbreport.com
Revvd
Meister Mechaniker
Jonathan19
Premium+
Bridster
Oversteer Expert
I don't dislike the design, or even the design ethos, but unfortunately it's all pure fantasy, from the weight to the engine specs, to the supposed delivery dates, to the "electric swap".
And the tires are still the wrong way around!
From their website: "5 years ago, we envisioned a vehicle that would challenge not just what was realistic, but the fabric of reality itself." - Yeah, that sounds about right.
And the tires are still the wrong way around!
From their website: "5 years ago, we envisioned a vehicle that would challenge not just what was realistic, but the fabric of reality itself." - Yeah, that sounds about right.
Revvd
Meister Mechaniker
The discrepancy between the leaked stats by Jonathan and the reported stats by these website is mega confusing. And that's before you consider that swappable ICE/EV subframes.
lmao, the robbreport article even says the 12k rpm engine is air cooled.
Bridster
Oversteer Expert
Yeah, and like I said, it makes no difference whether it's based on a Porsche unit or not. If they are aiming for 4.5L then, if they wanted to keep the stroke a realistic length for realistic piston speeds, then you are looking at bore of 120mm. And, at that point, you are definitely not getting to 12k RPM just based on the valve size. Not to mention all the other problems that come with such a high RPM, like needing a gear drive, developing a new VVT system, etc. The GMA V12 is right on the edge with twice the cylinder count, and it cost probably like 100M to develop if not more. So this 12k RPM F6 engine they have in mind is a complete fantasy 5 times over.
Looking at their budget of 50M (25 cars at ~2M) - which already has to include the development of a custom CF monocoque - the only way to get even near what they want, is to get a 4.5L engine from somebody like DeMan. Which is 560PS and only revs to 8k, but they can just buy it without spending money on developing anything. Or, as is their "option", just use the standard GT3RS engine.
Looking at their budget of 50M (25 cars at ~2M) - which already has to include the development of a custom CF monocoque - the only way to get even near what they want, is to get a 4.5L engine from somebody like DeMan. Which is 560PS and only revs to 8k, but they can just buy it without spending money on developing anything. Or, as is their "option", just use the standard GT3RS engine.
Bridster
Oversteer Expert
Well, they are clearly very enthusiastic, and have a unique vision of what they want, and are very ambitious - which is all great, but sadly what's missing in their team of 12(?) guys, is someone who says "Look, we are working from a random f*cking workshop and our only sponsors are those that we've met in the future, we need to be a bit more realistic."OK, IDK what to believe anymore. Since when does Manthey Racing preps engines? Or do they mean racing engine for GT3 class? What is that 5.0 L one? Why isn't it mentioned in any of the articles? Is there even any version that is road legal?What a mess!
What they are doing right now is just throwing around the wildest things they can think of, in the blind hope that some rich guy will go: INSANE! INSTA DEPOSIT!! And then it all works out somehow.
They say that they are "looking for 11 maniacs" - which is, again, more true than they probably intended.
Revvd
Meister Mechaniker
There must be something in the water that makes these LA based niche brands cook up the most fantastic sounding specs. Why do they have to complicate things? The car is so beautiful. Even with a bone stock GT3 RS motor, it would be an amazing package.
BTW, the monocoque is said to be built by Multimatic, so they clearly have industry connections (on top of having worked for mainstream brands as designers).
It's only fitting that they quote from Don Quixote in this video.
BTW, the monocoque is said to be built by Multimatic, so they clearly have industry connections (on top of having worked for mainstream brands as designers).
It's only fitting that they quote from Don Quixote in this video.
Revvd
Meister Mechaniker
Porsche Guy
Kraftkurve King
Assuming they can pull it off, this is my kind of supercar: lightweight, manual, modest styling (for a supercar) and attention to detail.
Tourbillon
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