Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?


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Damn, match the steering wheel and bring it as civilian version with an interior taking inspiration from!
No LED‘s, leather and shiny black plastics.
And with this package please:

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Mercedes is keeping its V8 and V12 engines
AMG is developing an electrified V8.
Mercedes held its annual results conference this week, outlining how it intends to become "leaner, faster, and stronger." The theme of its new roadmap is "mastering transformation," and it's not just marketing fluff. The three-pointed star has a busy agenda, which includes planning electric C-Class, GLC, and E-Class models and a "major upgrade" for the S-Class. The flagship will retain one of its most important assets–the V-12 engine.

The German luxury brand is expressing its long-term commitment to the venerable twelve-cylinder powerhouse, but the twin-turbo 6.0-liter engine will continue only in "selected markets." Presumably, in regions of the world where emissions regulations are more relaxed. Mercedes installs its largest combustion engine in the Maybach S-Class S680 and the armored S-Class Guard. Separately, AMG supplies a V-12 to Pagani for its Utopia hypercar.

Mercedes is the only brand from the German luxury trio to retain the twelve-cylinder mill in its portfolio. BMW killed the M760i in 2022 with the previous-generation 7 Series in the limited-run Final Edition flavor exclusive to the United States. As for Audi, the W-12 died after the previous-generation A8 was retired in 2017. The current model was supposed to get the 6.0-liter unit, but the Four Rings had a change of heart, although prototypes based on the "D5" generation were built.

Back to Mercedes, we're happy to report that the V-8 is also staying. AMG is developing a "next-generation, high-tech electrified V-8" for future models riding on its in-house AMG.EA platform. The announcement tells us the new architecture will also support combustion engines rather than being EV-only. The new/updated engine has been developed to meet future Euro 7 regulations, so thankfully, it won't be outlawed in the 27 countries of the European Union.


There's no word about the fate of the inline-six, but since the bigger engines are staying, logic tells us Mercedes won't give up on the 3.0-liter unit either. Moving down the range, get ready for a "48-volt electrified high-tech four-cylinder engine." It debuts next month in the new CLA, in which the small 1.5-liter unit will be hooked up to an eight-speed, dual-clutch automatic transmission. Mercedes developed the smaller engine but the four-pot will be "industrialized with a partner in China."

Mercedes projects that plug-in hybrids and EVs will account for only 30% of its total sales by 2027. The other 70% will be ICE cars, many with 48V technology. This reality check shows the company was overly ambitious with its previous electric goals. As early as 2030, the company had intended to go purely electric "where market conditions allow." That's not happening anymore, as the world just isn't ready to go all-in on electric cars.

 
Mercedes CEO Warns Europe's Car Industry Could Collapse: 'We Need a Reality Check'
Unless the EU changes its mind, automakers are heading 'full speed against a wall.'

Only a few years ago, Mercedes-Benz was confident about going all-in on electric vehicles in Europe. In 2021, it projected that by the end of the decade, it would stop selling cars with combustion engines "where market conditions allow." Not only has the luxury brand dropped this ambitious goal, but it has also taken a 180-degree turn. Without ICE vehicles, the company’s head honcho believes the local automotive industry will "collapse."

In an interview with the German business newspaper Handelsblatt (subscription required), Ola Källenius warned that if the EU’s sales ban on new combustion-engine cars remains in place for 2035, Europe’s automotive industry will implode:

The Mercedes boss, who is also president of the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association (ACEA), cautions that the continent’s car industry will “collapse” if the EU doesn’t drop the ban. Before regulators outlaw new ICE vehicles, Källenius predicts customers will rush to buy gas and diesel cars ahead of the deadline, set to take effect in nine and a half years, which “doesn’t help the climate at all.”


Electric vehicles are nowhere near the 100 percent market share the EU wants to impose. In the first half of the year, cars without a combustion engine accounted for just 17.5 percent of total sales in EU countries, the UK, and the European Free Trade Association (EFTA) nations, namely Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland. ACEA data also shows that plug-in hybrids represented only 8.7 percent of total deliveries. Traditional hybrids made up 35 percent, but that figure includes mild-hybrids, which many would argue are not “true” hybrids.

The EU’s 2035 ban is not set in stone, as it is scheduled for review in the coming months. However, as recently as March, the European Commission (EC), the EU’s executive arm, reaffirmed its commitment to 0 g/km CO₂ emissions for new cars sold from the middle of the next decade. At the time, the EC said it would “accelerate work on the preparation of the foreseen review of the CO₂ Standards Regulation for cars and vans,” signaling a possible earlier reassessment of the ban.

Mercedes has reason to be concerned about the potential impact on its business. EV sales accounted for only 8.4 percent of its global shipments in the first half of 2025, down from 9.7 percent in the same period of 2024. Even when including PHEVs, electrified models made up just 20.1 percent of total deliveries in the first six months of the year.

Whether common sense will prevail remains to be seen, but given the strong opposition the EU is facing, there is hope the ban could be eased to some extent. We wouldn’t be surprised if, at the very least, plug-in hybrids and maybe full hybrids continue beyond 2034.

 
So the new AMG 4-door and SUV can run a gas engine also? I must have read it wrong.

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You read that correctly.
If this is the case it would be the right move. Not everyone wants an EV. Plus, if this new GT ticks all the boxes with an ICE engine, it's going to attract previous owners of the 4-door GT.
 
Quite an interesting article. I also reckon the new V8 will be used in the new AMG GT 4-dr and SUV as the owners of the current model will probably only want to change their models to new versions if they have a V8. The EV versions will cater for those who have a Taycan or Tesla Model S and want to change to an equivalent Mercedes EV 4dr.

2026 and 2027 is going to be something exciting to look forward to with the onslaught of new models.
 
You read that correctly.
If this is the case it would be the right move. Not everyone wants an EV. Plus, if this new GT ticks all the boxes with an ICE engine, it's going to attract previous owners of the 4-door GT.
Their mission is "You choose a car, then you choose the drivetrain" I think? So makes sense.

The V12 continues - great! But I doubt they'd make a new one. Unless they plan on making a new 4L V12 and 3L V8 (and maybe a 2.25L inlin 6??) based on the M252 from the new CLA...
 
Mercedes CEO Warns Europe's Car Industry Could Collapse: 'We Need a Reality Check'
Unless the EU changes its mind, automakers are heading 'full speed against a wall.'

Only a few years ago, Mercedes-Benz was confident about going all-in on electric vehicles in Europe. In 2021, it projected that by the end of the decade, it would stop selling cars with combustion engines "where market conditions allow." Not only has the luxury brand dropped this ambitious goal, but it has also taken a 180-degree turn. Without ICE vehicles, the company’s head honcho believes the local automotive industry will "collapse."

In an interview with the German business newspaper Handelsblatt (subscription required), Ola Källenius warned that if the EU’s sales ban on new combustion-engine cars remains in place for 2035, Europe’s automotive industry will implode:

The Mercedes boss, who is also president of the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association (ACEA), cautions that the continent’s car industry will “collapse” if the EU doesn’t drop the ban. Before regulators outlaw new ICE vehicles, Källenius predicts customers will rush to buy gas and diesel cars ahead of the deadline, set to take effect in nine and a half years, which “doesn’t help the climate at all.”


Electric vehicles are nowhere near the 100 percent market share the EU wants to impose. In the first half of the year, cars without a combustion engine accounted for just 17.5 percent of total sales in EU countries, the UK, and the European Free Trade Association (EFTA) nations, namely Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland. ACEA data also shows that plug-in hybrids represented only 8.7 percent of total deliveries. Traditional hybrids made up 35 percent, but that figure includes mild-hybrids, which many would argue are not “true” hybrids.

The EU’s 2035 ban is not set in stone, as it is scheduled for review in the coming months. However, as recently as March, the European Commission (EC), the EU’s executive arm, reaffirmed its commitment to 0 g/km CO₂ emissions for new cars sold from the middle of the next decade. At the time, the EC said it would “accelerate work on the preparation of the foreseen review of the CO₂ Standards Regulation for cars and vans,” signaling a possible earlier reassessment of the ban.

Mercedes has reason to be concerned about the potential impact on its business. EV sales accounted for only 8.4 percent of its global shipments in the first half of 2025, down from 9.7 percent in the same period of 2024. Even when including PHEVs, electrified models made up just 20.1 percent of total deliveries in the first six months of the year.

Whether common sense will prevail remains to be seen, but given the strong opposition the EU is facing, there is hope the ban could be eased to some extent. We wouldn’t be surprised if, at the very least, plug-in hybrids and maybe full hybrids continue beyond 2034.

He is 100% correct, if the EU don't relax their ban on ICE engines by 2035 then the European car industry will implode. The take up rate for buying EV is not as high as they would have anticipated. Too many obstacles with the high purchase price, lack of incentives, lack of a robust charging network and depreciation fears are making people hesitant to buy
 
Too many obstacles with the high purchase price

Of course, far less of an issue for those who lease. And their numbers are steadily increasing. But for BUYERS, new EV's remain far too expensive in many cases. Auto manufacturers are also at fault, propagating lower manufacturing costs and production efficiencies that would make EV's considerably less expensive than ICE vehicles. It hasn't worked out that way so far, though. And many consumers are suspecting greedy, cash grabs by manufacturers.
lack of incentives,

Here in Germany, the initial incentives were soon cancelled or capped. This obviously seriously obstructs a far more timely transformation. A political as well as industry problem.

lack of a robust charging network

I'm not quite sure whether this is such a big issue in my country. In secluded rural areas yes, but in metropolitan regions far lesser so if at all.
and depreciation fears are making people hesitant to buy

Those fears alleviated by way of leasing. However, leasing rates can be steep, far too steep actually, for private non-business customers. Manufactuers and service providers need to become far more innovative with far more flexible leasing/rental models for private non-business consumers.
 
Mercedes CEO Warns Europe's Car Industry Could Collapse: 'We Need a Reality Check'
Unless the EU changes its mind, automakers are heading 'full speed against a wall.'

Only a few years ago, Mercedes-Benz was confident about going all-in on electric vehicles in Europe. In 2021, it projected that by the end of the decade, it would stop selling cars with combustion engines "where market conditions allow." Not only has the luxury brand dropped this ambitious goal, but it has also taken a 180-degree turn. Without ICE vehicles, the company’s head honcho believes the local automotive industry will "collapse."

In an interview with the German business newspaper Handelsblatt (subscription required), Ola Källenius warned that if the EU’s sales ban on new combustion-engine cars remains in place for 2035, Europe’s automotive industry will implode:

The Mercedes boss, who is also president of the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association (ACEA), cautions that the continent’s car industry will “collapse” if the EU doesn’t drop the ban. Before regulators outlaw new ICE vehicles, Källenius predicts customers will rush to buy gas and diesel cars ahead of the deadline, set to take effect in nine and a half years, which “doesn’t help the climate at all.”


Electric vehicles are nowhere near the 100 percent market share the EU wants to impose. In the first half of the year, cars without a combustion engine accounted for just 17.5 percent of total sales in EU countries, the UK, and the European Free Trade Association (EFTA) nations, namely Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland. ACEA data also shows that plug-in hybrids represented only 8.7 percent of total deliveries. Traditional hybrids made up 35 percent, but that figure includes mild-hybrids, which many would argue are not “true” hybrids.

The EU’s 2035 ban is not set in stone, as it is scheduled for review in the coming months. However, as recently as March, the European Commission (EC), the EU’s executive arm, reaffirmed its commitment to 0 g/km CO₂ emissions for new cars sold from the middle of the next decade. At the time, the EC said it would “accelerate work on the preparation of the foreseen review of the CO₂ Standards Regulation for cars and vans,” signaling a possible earlier reassessment of the ban.

Mercedes has reason to be concerned about the potential impact on its business. EV sales accounted for only 8.4 percent of its global shipments in the first half of 2025, down from 9.7 percent in the same period of 2024. Even when including PHEVs, electrified models made up just 20.1 percent of total deliveries in the first six months of the year.

Whether common sense will prevail remains to be seen, but given the strong opposition the EU is facing, there is hope the ban could be eased to some extent. We wouldn’t be surprised if, at the very least, plug-in hybrids and maybe full hybrids continue beyond 2034.

@Ursula Von der Silly.
 

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