Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[hannaz]

Not sure how much authentic this is.. but sounds interesting. Especially when it’s reported that Mercedes will bring ‘niche models’ according to recent article by motor1

Mercedes CEO: 'We Eat, Sleep, and Drink Cars'

Mercedes CEO Ola Källenius says the German luxury brand is thinking about cars all the time, and despite having about 40 models, new products are possible.

www.motor1.com

 

[Design FIRST]

Not sure how much authentic this is.. but sounds interesting. Especially when it’s reported that Mercedes will bring ‘niche models’ according to recent article by motor1

Mercedes CEO: 'We Eat, Sleep, and Drink Cars'

Mercedes CEO Ola Källenius says the German luxury brand is thinking about cars all the time, and despite having about 40 models, new products are possible.

www.motor1.com

Could it possibly be that these allude to kW outputs of future top-end electric E-and S Class models ?

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Not sure how much authentic this is.. but sounds interesting. Especially when it’s reported that Mercedes will bring ‘niche models’ according to recent article by motor1

Mercedes CEO: 'We Eat, Sleep, and Drink Cars'

Mercedes CEO Ola Källenius says the German luxury brand is thinking about cars all the time, and despite having about 40 models, new products are possible.

www.motor1.com

I wouldn't take too much stock in them for now. Sometimes these types of trademarks are filed just for brand protection purposes.
Much as I'd love a V8 E600 and a V12 S700... Just don't see it happening.

Maybe high power EV variants for the MB.EA-L specs. But they're definitely not representing kW outputs - especially for non-AMG
Nobody needs close to a megawatt (1200+ hp) of power from a non-AMG S class.

 

[Jonathan19]

Not sure how much authentic this is.. but sounds interesting. Especially when it’s reported that Mercedes will bring ‘niche models’ according to recent article by motor1

Mercedes CEO: 'We Eat, Sleep, and Drink Cars'

Mercedes CEO Ola Källenius says the German luxury brand is thinking about cars all the time, and despite having about 40 models, new products are possible.

www.motor1.com

"S900" is maybe the coupe style Maybach that the patents leak months ago?

 

[Design FIRST]

Nobody needs close to a megawatt (1200+ hp) of power from a non-AMG S class.

Things that promote "bragging rights" are seldom rational. But they can sure "sell".

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Things that promote "bragging rights" are seldom rational. But they can sure "sell".

At which point it would just be an S90 AMG no?
1200 hp from a standard, non-AMG S class is ridiculous.

 

[Design FIRST]

At which point it would just be an S90 AMG no?
1200 hp from a standard, non-AMG S class is ridiculous.

In this age of BEVs, exorbitantly high powertrain outputs are becoming a more common byproduct accompanying massive torque and highest possible refinement (when the comfort mode settings are clicked and soundscapes are switched off) . After all, we have 475kW (646PS) SMART (BRABUS) #5s. A midsized SUV. And should a possible electric S700 ever come to fruition, we're talking some 945PS. Not to forget the eventual axial-flux e-motor trickle down into non AMG M-Bs. Single axial flux e-motors are producing anywhere between 370kW to 550kw-genuinely crazy 500-to-742PS. And moving away from M-B (AMG), the upcoming top-end electric Porsche Cayenne Turbo S is said to produce some 741kW (1000PS). And this in a larger SUV. We are also seeing 965kW (over 1300PS) quad-DeepDrive e-motor BMW i3M sedan prototypes. It all gets mind-boggling indeed.

I suppose that M-B will also offer some more pedestrian non-AMG electric S-Class models as well. Perhaps an S400 model as a base model with some 540PS.

 

[Rolf]

It would be interesting to see the power outputs of the German premium brands moving forward, as lately many of them have been looking suddenly very pedestrian compared to some EV and PHEV Chinese brand models. For example the Xiaomi SU7 (sports saloon with over 1500hp) and the Yangwang U7 (luxury saloon with 1305HP EV) are at least 500hp more powerful than equivalent German saloons. Mercedes new AMG EV GT looks set to recover some of the loss with its over 1300hp powertrain, but then the new Yangwang U9 is set to get a 3020hp version which is ultra ridiculous power for a road car.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

It would be interesting to see the power outputs of the German premium brands moving forward, as lately many of them have been looking suddenly very pedestrian compared to some EV and PHEV Chinese brand models. For example the Xiaomi SU7 (sports saloon with over 1500hp) and the Yangwang U7 (luxury saloon with 1305HP EV) are at least 500hp more powerful than equivalent German saloons. Mercedes new AMG EV GT looks set to recover some of the loss with its over 1300hp powertrain, but then the new Yangwang U9 is set to get a 3020hp version which is ultra ridiculous power for a road car.

Ultimately it's a futile arms race.
Eventually there will be some regulation on how much power a road car can have. 3000HP is so pointlessly insane. E motors can produce an almost arbitrary amount of power - that's why they're used for most high speed traction engines on trains.

The difference will ultimately be on a combination of how a car drives, rides and feels. This is a moment in history where drivetrains are now democratised. The luxury manufacturers have less space to operate, and will need to differentiate on the overall package. I think lightness will be key.

We've seen some examples of BYDs that have really really poor braking performance.