Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[Uygar]

...fooling around with Gemini AI trying to get a "converged design" successor to the W223 and EQS sedan:

They look great. Still has that soap shape though. I think that’s the main reason why the EQ models look so odd.

 

[Design FIRST]

They look great. Still has that soap shape though.

Very kind of you, sir

I tried to somewhat alleviate the soap (or "pod", "egg", etc.) effect by attempting to increase the socalled "prestige clearance" between the base of the A-pillars and the hubs of the front wheels and hence lengthening the hood that lends to a more conventional silhouette. The rest is a bit of a hodge-podge of C257 CLS and EQS elements.

I was surprised as how Gemini AI appeared to accept my prompts regarding this particular image. Other of my fooling around experiments produced less compelling results, I'm afraid. I've been trying my luck on an envisioned production version of the Audi Grandsphere concept. They turned out...absolute shit.

 

[Uygar]

Very kind of you, sir

I tried to somewhat alleviate the soap (or "pod", "egg", etc.) effect by attempting to increase the socalled "prestige clearance" between the base of the A-pillars and the hubs of the front wheels and hence lengthening the hood that lends to a more conventional silhouette. The rest is a bit of a hodge-podge of C257 CLS and EQS elements.

I was surprised as how Gemini AI appeared to accept my prompts regarding this particular image. Other of my fooling around experiments produced less compelling results, I'm afraid. I've been trying my luck on an envisioned production version of the Audi Grandsphere concept. They turned out...absolute shit.

The other day I also tried the Gemini AI. It does a better job at creating images with prompts than ChatGPT, they look much realistic and high quality, but it flops when it comes to turning a sketch into a 3D render. ChatGPT is much better at that one.

 

[Merc1]

There are no E class EQ prototypes yet, so don't really know what it'll look like.

The outline, silhouette.

M

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

The outline, silhouette.

M

Do you mean this? Doesn't look that different to the regular ICE E class. Maybe a bit like the E class LWB in the rear. But otherwise it looks like a standard Mercedes sedan.

We'll see I guess.

 

[Merc1]

Do you mean this? Doesn't look that different to the regular ICE E class. Maybe a bit like the E class LWB in the rear. But otherwise it looks like a standard Mercedes sedan.

We'll see I guess.

Yep. That. Looks goofy.

M

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Yep. That. Looks goofy.

M

I'm not sure you can really draw any conclusions from a couple of lines, but it doesn't really look that different...

 

[Merc1]

I'm not sure you can really draw any conclusions from a couple of lines, but it doesn't really look that different...

To me it looks more EQish than E.

M

 

[Serpens]

To me it looks more EQish than E.

M

I find that odd considering it's a very similar outline to the E-class as others have noted. That's a pretty distinct 3 box design.

 

[Uygar]

That looks exactly the same as the ICE E-Class. I can’t see any differences.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

And that exactly is the problem - taking them 5 years to release a new design.
I'm working for one of the Chinese companies (.... With the dreams in the name) and what I had to learn was the speed in execution and the adaptability to the changes. I've been working for 20 years in an American company, and working for a Chinese company was a shock (and still is) for me.
While the Germans (and to a certain extent the Japanese also) take 3-4 years to release a car, and after that another 3 years to make a facelift, the Chinese can make a new model in 6-12 months. The design is "frozen" until a change must be done, even if that means that the car is already in production for one month.
They adapt and make the changes along the way. In China there isn't such a thing as "frozen design" and they don't touch it for another 3 years.

Chinese are still not at the same quality level as the German ones, but the flexibility and speed of execution is getting them there.
Germans will not be able build cheap cars in China like their competitors, because for that they will have to completely change their way of working, which in the end wouldn't be Mercedes or BMW anymore. But sourcing most of the parts locally in China, will help to decrease the cost.

Wolfgang Egger, BYD Design, said: (coming from a reliable source): "At Audi I had to create 10 cars and 9 had to be a success. Here (at BYD) I have to create 100 cars, and 5 need to be a success."

 

[klier]

That looks exactly the same as the ICE E-Class. I can’t see any differences.

Me neither, which is excellent.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

To me it looks more EQish than E.

M

That looks exactly the same as the ICE E-Class. I can’t see any differences.

It's literally 1:1.
The only difference is the greenhouse going a bit further back, but that may well be because the W214 is not perfectly parallel to the camera.

I think you might have a bit of PTSD from the Eggmobiles M

 

[Merc1]

It's literally 1:1.
The only difference is the greenhouse going a bit further back, but that may well be because the W214 is not perfectly parallel to the camera.

I think you might have a bit of PTSD from the Eggmobiles M

Front end looks funny to me. That is possible.

M

 

[Mickaels]

Front end looks funny to me. That is possible.

M

The front grills on future models might be more vertical compared to now, judging by the upcoming glc ev.

 

[Design FIRST]

A bit of a Gemini AI rough draft of an EQE sedan successor-a hodgepodge of W214, EQE sedan and CLE elements.. Of course, it needs the signature M-B retractable door handles and a grill/shield + headlamps similar to that of the upcoming GLC/electric C-Class sedan. Sorry, I have yet to get a good grasp of this AI stuff.

 

[Design FIRST]

...another result of my farting around with Gemini AI and a proposition for a future E-Class segment electric sedan:

At least I got the grill/shield and doorhandles "a bit more "right"".

 

[Design FIRST]

Oh well...one hell of a lot better than the current EQ sedans.

 

[Rolf]

Oh well...one hell of a lot better than the current EQ sedans.

If they could change the grill and front light graphics to be similar to your render and sort out that ugly angled shutline on the fender then it would be make a major difference and the car will at least very appealing and attractive.

 

[Merc1]

The overall shape is still all wrong for a Mercedes.


M