Artura [Official] 2021 McLaren Artura

[Tourbillon]

Correct. But it is not so easy to know since all McLaren models are based on same architecture and have same engine. In fact the McLarens are a lot of different versions of the same car.

The Mclaren Artura shares nothing with anything previous. It is ground up completely and utterly brand new. The V6 is an instant give away. And it's not like Porsche or Lamborghini, hell even Bugatti architecture share in an engineering sense. It makes solid buisness and financial sense and that's what automotive is, primarily. Buisness.

 

[KiwiRob]

Because Mclaren exterior design language hasn't evolve too much, which is not a bad thing... but their interiors are two slices below Ferrari, IMO that's why 296 is worth the premium over Artura, plus is better built.

My brother in law would fight you over that comment, he worked as a Ferrari mechanic for many years in a dealership in Auckland. Pre-delivery checks meant going over every singe nut and bold to tighten them, fix wayward trim, some car would take a couple of days work to get them ready to hand over to a customer.

 

[KiwiRob]

Designing a sexy mid engine super car is difficult - especially if you don't want it to be mistaken for a ferrari och Lambo copy cat.

The CGT, R8 and 720s are the only truly unique and captivating non Italian mid engined cars over the past decades.

I don't know about that, there's a bald chap in Sweden making some incredible vehicles.

 

[Tourbillon]

My brother in law would fight you over that comment, he worked as a Ferrari mechanic for many years in a dealership in Auckland. Pre-delivery checks meant going over every singe nut and bold to tighten them, fix wayward trim, some car would take a couple of days work to get them ready to hand over to a customer.

I try not to get too involved in the it's "better Bukit" X vs Y= Z arguments because I'm sure McLaren use much more human touch i.e. hand building than Ferrari do, Ferrari are built primarily by assisted machinery in the production process. Plus the manufacture of an all carbon fibre monocoque chassis architecture is vastly different to an alloy or alloy/carbon matrix.

Though I welcome being corrected.

 

[AndreB]

I'm sure McLaren use much more human touch i.e. hand building than Ferrari do, Ferrari are built primarily by assisted machinery in the production process.

McLarens are hand assembled but that doesn't make them better than robot assembled cars... like most others they only do assembly, even the carbon monocoque is manufactured by a different company, engine as well.

My brother in law would fight you over that comment, he worked as a Ferrari mechanic for many years in a dealership in Auckland.

Not sure my phrasing was correct, I was saying that 296 has better tech and it's better built than Artura.

 

[Tourbillon]

McLarens are hand assembled but that doesn't make them better than robot assembled cars... like most others they only do assembly, even the carbon monocoque is manufactured by a different company, engine as well.

I never said it did. Nobody is making claims about "perceived" build quality other than you. And all you've stated is your own individual opinions anyway? They aren't any universal facts?

But it's obvious if you use machinery or automatic methods of construction your tolerances will be tighter and thus (perceived?) quality will be higher, and it also ensures repeatability. These are Q+A basis in engineering and these methods aren't transferable to hand built methodologies to the same standards.

Also the carbon fibre monocoques are built by McLaren in their own factory in Sheffield. So your factually incorrect.

Yes Ricardo manufacture the engine? So what? They also manufacturer the dual clutch transmissions for Bugatti and have done so since 2005? Irrelevant that's what OEM's do.

I'm sure McLaren were involved in the research and development of the V6 unit too but I'm unsure I'll check another time.

Ferrari also purchase in things like ABS carbon ceramic braking systems and dual clutch transmissions etc, so what you stated applies to them too, and has probably for generations.

 

[Tourbillon]

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[Centurion]

Looks good and sounds good. I love the simplicity of the instrument cluster. It's not overdone like a Christmas tree.

 

[A.P.]

Looks good and sounds good. I love the simplicity of the instrument cluster. It's not overdone like a Christmas tree.

Don't worry, it lights up like a Christmas tree when the hybrid system stops "working".

 

[Tourbillon]

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[Tourbillon]

First delivered McLaren Artura crash! No way!

https://www.copart.com/lot/64973102/salvage-2023-mclaren-automotive-artura-pa-philadelphia

Unfortunately I couldn't pull the pictures out. But still the links there. The rear end damages look horrific.

 

[Laurent T]

First delivered McLaren Artura crash! No way!

Looks indeed like a huge crash !

 

[Tourbillon]

Looks indeed like a huge crash !

Yes my friend it's pretty messed up. I trust the driver and/or passenger were fine, but just looking at it, you'd imagine it to be serious. Shame.

 

[martinbo]

That's got to be a write-off, surely. Irreparable.

 

[Tourbillon]

That's got to be a write-off, surely. Irreparable.

It's more likely than not as you state. The monocoque sure a good took beating. I'll look out for it and see what occurs.

 

[WBarnes]

That'll buff right out.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

They aren’t rebuilding that lol. Accidents happen. Hope they’re ok. The car is toast. Oh well.

 

[Tourbillon]

That'll buff right out.

LOL!, that'll be quite the technician!

 

[mihc]

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[Jo_Sta7]

I've always disagreed with these journalists assessments of the faster car being more for the track and the slower car being more for the street. In my view, it's the exact opposite. Go to any track day, the cars ripping the best times are modified M3's with huge wings. It's about confidence and grip in the corners and braking zones to break as late as possible. Carrying huge speed into braking zones is scary and less fun than people think especially if it's your high priced car. On the street however, the faster car is more exciting because the way you accelerate on the street is in spurts. You see a gap, you stomp, and then you brake or coast back down. The car that can deliver the bigger adrenaline rush from 40-140 mph is better. Ferrari wins all day in this aspect vs the Artura.