AMG ONE [Official] Mercedes-AMG Project ONE

[Jonathan19]

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[Revvd]

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OK, this should be good. The first ever AMG One vs Valkyrie head to head track test! I'm looking forward to it.

 

[Revvd]

It actually looks good on the road, viewed from a regular eye level. Great owner too!

 

[Matski]

It actually looks good on the road, viewed from a regular eye level. Great owner too!

Guernsey plates?

 

[Revvd]

Guernsey plates?

IDK. They do complement the livery very well.
I still hate the dorsal fin, though.

 

[Jonathan19]

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[asrapid1]

I' m looking for some info but i can't find it so maybe you guys can help me.
Since AMG one is using F1 engine (detuned for the road) it use pneumatic spring ( pressurized gas,) for closing the valves. In F1 race car they have small tank filled with nitrogen ( pressurized) that can be filled quickly during the race (in pit stop) if needed.

But what about the system in road car (AMG One)? Do they have a compressor (that supply pressurized air when there is need for it) or?

 

[Revvd]

I really wasn't expecting the weight discrepancy vs claimed stats. Valkyrie is 52 kg lighter and AMG One 45 kg heavier.

Shame about the weather, thought. Wet Thruxton must be pure agony.

Do they have a compressor (that supply pressurized air when there is need for it) or?

Yup!

"This is the only car on the road that has a pneumatic valve train, plus we've added a pneumatic pump."

 

[Revvd]

 

[Swissbob]

Does anybody knows the compression ratio of that engine?

 

[Rolf]

To be honest the conditions on the track were not ideal for both cars to perform their best, with rain spoiling the handling and braking. If they had a proper dry surface I do think in a drag race and roll race, the AMG could be closer to the Aston.

The Aston wins hands down for engine noise, but that cabin looks painfully uncomfortable for bigger guys and its extremely noisy inside. You wont be able to drive it on the road too long before losing your hearing. The Mercedes is also a noisy machine and on long distance could be tiring. It also seems more complicated to set up for full track mode.

The difference in weight is massive I did not expect the AM to be an incredible 400kg lighter. That is made more impressive that it has a huge 6.5ltr V12 while the Mercedes has a very small compact 1.6 V6.

Both cars will probably be more at home on a longer track with less tight turns and longer sweeps.

 

[Bucketslash11]

the 400kg difference is massive, even after the Valkyrie gaining weight controversy

 

[Matski]

Both cars will probably be more at home on a longer track with less tight turns and longer sweeps.

Thruxton's basically nothing but sweepers and one kink... it makes Silverstone look 'tight'.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

the 400kg difference is massive, even after the Valkyrie gaining weight controversy

The AMG One was always going to be quite heavy tho no? The drivetrain set up is incredibly complicated compared to the Valkyrie and it seems to be quite a bit more livable, despite being loud as f#ck.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

A pity they didn’t give us lap times (even if it was wet).

 

[Revvd]

A pity they didn’t give us lap times (even if it was wet).

If only they had booked the track during the summer drought. They even had Stig present, so you just know they were ready to do some hotlaps.

In my simulations, Valkyrie w/ ERS could do 1:13 around Thruxton. Which would make it as fast as 992 GT3 Cup.
I have AMG One at about 1:17, and a GT3 race car at 1:09. The problem for Valkyrie is the lack of straight sections. Every part of the track is a curve of some sort.

 

[Revvd]

I'd love to know what's this third car they were originally going to include in the test. There's no obvious candidates to fit the F1 for the road theme.

Here's an excerpt from the magazine that best describes the difference in handling between them:

The AMG drives more conventionally. You sense drag play its part as acceleration starts to tail off, and you sense the downforce as the steering weights up significantly. ... It’s the more reassuring car to drive through high speed corners, locking itself to a line and refusing to be budged off it. It’s a tenacious thing, terrifically stable and secure, with more confidence inspiring brakes and better turn in than the Aston.

The Valkyrie is a more elusive character. It flows beautifully around Thruxton, rides the kerbs immaculately, gives you options for lines where the One only saw a single track, but there’s less feedback through the chassis and suspension at high speed which makes it trickier to commit. The brakes are soft underfoot, the pedal a bit long and it doesn’t bite into slow corners, despite the fact it will happily oversteer on the brakes on the way in.
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It never feels like it’s subject to the same laws of motion and gravity as the AMG, and doesn’t drive like a car that has loads of downforce. At high speeds the steering doesn’t weight up, you don’t get the impression the suspension is being compressed. ... So it flits around, the steering stays accurate and precise, the car always light and agile.

 

[Matski]

Which would make it as fast as 992 GT3 Cup.
I have AMG One at about 1:17, and a GT3 race car at 1:09

Fastest lap for a Touring car at Thruxton this year was a 1:15.2. It would be amusing to me if this 'F1 car for the road' was slower than a front wheel drive 375bhp BTCC Ford Focus on slicks.

 

[Rolf]

I'd love to know what's this third car they were originally going to include in the test. There's no obvious candidates to fit the F1 for the road theme.

Here's an excerpt from the magazine that best describes the difference in handling between them:

Thanks for posting the magazine except, it has extra information not mentioned in their video comparison. I wonder if these comments were made after the track dried up. The comments on the difference in high speed handling is fascinating, especially as the AM was designed specifically to provide massive downforce. Is this due to the AMG having the track mode which reduces the height of the suspension and deploys the spoilers and air ducts to increase downforce at higher speeds? While the AM is more a static car with the suspension retaining same driving height?

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Fastest lap for a Touring car at Thruxton this year was a 1:15.2. It would be amusing to me if this 'F1 car for the road' was slower than a front wheel drive 375bhp BTCC Ford Focus on slicks.

The combination of power and down force should mean the AMG should be a lot quicker.

It's just a simulation, at the end of the day