911 (991) [Official] Porsche 911 (991)

[Merc1]

Just like buyers que up for a new 911, they do the same thing for a new SL or S-Class. The 2013 S-Class will be epic and will again be the segment sales leader just like it has been for most of its life. A new Porsche isn't the end of the world for everyone else just like a new Mercedes isn't.

If anything when the new SL and the 911 Cabrio debut the cars that will lose out will be the Astons and Masers of the world, but even they have a select clientel that won't defect that easily.


Jaguar is the one that will suffer with the oldest car in the segment, the XK.


M

 

[klier]

SL and 911 buyers couldn't be more different. It will be the same as it has always been. And don't forget, the 991 cabrio still looks like the 996/997 hunchback. I personally find it pretty damn ugly. SL will be much more sleek. A true roadster. The 911 cabrio will never in a million years be like that.

 

[Centurion]

You have no proof Luw of how many of those 20000 Panamera buyers defected from owning - or wanting to own - an S-Class.

That is true but all I'm saying is that for every winner there is a loser. When Porsche won over customers for a four door executive car that previously didn't exist, the customer departed from the contemplation to buy an S500, S63 or S65, S8 or Quattroporte.

Before I attract more flame I'll make clear that I'm in no way implying that Porsche are taking over the world, but in the past 9-10 years they have significantly extended their consumer base from bucket-seat loving 993 buyers to families and non-petrol head individuals who otherwise have purchased a BMW SUV or a Mercedes saloon. We've already seen the 101 models and limited editions of the 911 and their aim to offer a 911 for everyone. A hardtop folding roof will increase the appeal for the 911 even further. Ferrari have already pushed for the California to tap into the whole "amazingly versatile" luxury car that has been the car's strong selling point partially because of the unique roof. Mercedes will obviously not see the sales of their SL plummet but I'm adamant that the hardtop 911 will make an impact given Porsche's growing appeal in selling cars that rivals imagined that their customers would not buy like the Cayenne and Panamera. Worth mentioning is Porsche previously expressed ambitions to increase the production levels quite a bit and the biggest pool of customers is that of Mercedes, Audi and BMW.



*quick hides behind fire hydrant with water hose in hand*

 

[klier]

That is true but all I'm saying is that for every winner there is a loser.

With all those new millionaires in China? For luxury car makes there is a winner for every winner. They buy a new SL as easy as they buy a bottle of good French wine

 

[Centurion]

With all those new millionaires in China? For luxury car makes there is a winner for every winner.

Yes indeed. The car industry is heading toward a great period of ambiguity. Audi making sports cars, Maserati developing SUVs, Ferrari producing four wheel drive cars, BMW brining electric cars to market and Range Rover getting consumers excited about illogical 3d SUVs. Cross shopping will thrive with ever greater choice and the concept of a "traditional" car buyer or customer fading even more.

Porsche acknowledged this a few years back and hence continues to produce near limitless variations of 911 to meet the unknown desires and requirements of any potential 911 buyer.

 

[martinbo]

The primary reason for Porsche to introduce limited editions of the 911 is to inject sales impetus into an aging model near the end of its lifecycle; moreso for the 997 than any other model previously.

 

[klier]

It kept the 997 fresh until the very last day. Cutting edge, razor sharp and in the spotlight.

 

[Centurion]

Beige, gold and potato salad white are not on the palette of my favourite colours on a 911, but this light wasabi green colour does bring out the best of the refreshed design. There is plenty of zen and equilibrium in this one.

 

[Merc1]

That is so slick and sheek looking....perfect design.

M

 

[klier]

Beige, gold and potato salad white are not on the palette of my favourite colours on a 911, but this light wasabi green colour does bring out the best of the refreshed design. There is plenty of zen and equilibrium in this one.

Repost. Those shots are taken in front of the Nurburgring F1 circuit btw. And I dislike that color a lot. Looks almost German taxi beige!

 

[Sunny]

That is true but all I'm saying is that for every winner there is a loser. When Porsche won over customers for a four door executive car that previously didn't exist, the customer departed from the contemplation to buy an S500, S63 or S65, S8 or Quattroporte.

Not necessarily. Could have also been some one contemplating a 911 and a cheaper family sedan. But I get your lager point of 911 broadening it's appeal. True for lot of sports cars these days, the so called Jekyll and Hyde switch at the press of a button - 911, M3, M5 all seem to be heading that way. Obviously, this also forces the other side - the luxury cars - to sharpen their sporty repertoire.

 

[Centurion]

What a glorious rear LED light graphic. An alien on wheels.

 

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

I really want a 991 911. Time to start saving!!!! Blue looks AMAZING!

 

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

A closer look at the Porsche seven-speed manual shift pattern

Although Porsche has released photographs showing the interior of an automatic-transmission-equipped 2012 911, we're still waiting on a clear look at the shift-yourself variety. Chas Hallet from WhatCar.com managed to get up close and personal with the newest 911, and he was kind enough to snap a picture of the shift pattern.

That is a much clearer image than the one we captured in the test video Porsche released earlier this year. We're patiently waiting for our turn to row, row, row, row, row, row, row the gears of the 2012 911, and we'll report back with our findings if our arms aren't too tired from all that shifting.

A closer look at the Porsche seven-speed manual shift pattern

 

[Top Secret]

Look at how large and wide that rear end is! No, thank you.

 

[martinbo]

Does this warrant an altogether new thread? Nothing we haven't seen before / known of already. Merging with the official 991 thread...

 

[Giannis]

Specially dedicated to Martin:

 

[martinbo]

^ That's not the new 991 gear knob. I've become an expert at telling old knobs from new knobs on this forum.

 

[Sayyaaf]

lool Martin, So true

 

[vedjo01]

I've become an expert at telling old knobs from new knobs on this forum.

Well,that is a nice feature to posses on forums like this one..