The current ICE model has effectively been discontinued, it will remain on sale until 2026. Thereafter will be a wait of 2-3 years for a substitute ICE model to be introduced, possibly not even under the Macan moniker.Excellent decision to not discontinue the ICE
Oh really? I thought the current gen will remain on sale but receive another facelift in 2026-2027.The current ICE model has effectively been discontinued, it will remain on sale until 2026. Thereafter will be a wait of 2-3 years for a substitute ICE model to be introduced, possibly not even under the Macan moniker.
Porsche seems pretty lost atm
Sad to see.
He means the Cayenne not the Macan.The current ICE model has effectively been discontinued, it will remain on sale until 2026. Thereafter will be a wait of 2-3 years for a substitute ICE model to be introduced, possibly not even under the Macan moniker.
Like Mercedes, they aggressively put their bets into an EV future. On paper, their EV performance well. However they neglected that some consumers buy prestige/luxury for emotion. Unlike BMW Porsche didn’t hedge for the Macan and Cayenne.Porsche seems pretty lost atm
Sad to see.
Porsche seems pretty lost atm
Sad to see.
I wonder if Porsche will do a similar move like Audi and use a Chinese design platform, manufactured in China for some future models and unique to China design to cut costs.The finance team is in panic mode after half year numbers are looking bad.
But its no surprise since they haven't launched any new cars, Cayenne and Panamera got a 3rd facelift, Taycan and Macan EV are overpriced, Macan ICE and 718 are too old and 992.2 got so expensive it doesn't make sense to buy one.
I hope they won't do more cost cutting to improve the profit because its not gonna work!
It's so boring. It feels like it was 5 years ago.
It's so boring. It feels like it was 5 years ago.
Like Mercedes, they aggressively put their bets into an EV future. On paper, their EV performance well. However they neglected that some consumers buy prestige/luxury for emotion. Unlike BMW Porsche didn’t hedge for the Macan and Cayenne.
That’s why hedging against EVs with a compelling portfolio of ICE cars would have been helpful. The 5-Series is great example. Production can be dynamically shift towards whatever consumers want to buy: ICE, EV or hybrid. Less risk of having to churn out cars that consumers don’t want or reducing the number of shifts on the production line.Your prognosis is the exact opposite of reality. Porsche sales being down was largely cause of China (down 28% vs up 12% in North America). And the reason for the poor sales in China is cause they don't have a price competitive EV to compete in China. Not because "they aggressively put their bets into an EV future". if anything, it is the opposite.
Enlighten me on how "a compelling portfolio of ICE cars" will help in a market that is ditching ICE cars at a record pace?That’s why hedging against EVs with a compelling portfolio of ICE cars would have been helpful.
...of how to f#ck up ICEV and BEV at the same time. But if it is indeed so f#cking awesome, why did BMW also bite the dust in China in H1 25?The 5-Series is great example.
...of how to f#ck up ICEV and BEV at the same time. But if it is indeed so f#cking awesome, why did BMW also bite the dust in China in H1 25?
I wonder if Porsche will do a similar move like Audi and use a Chinese design platform, manufactured in China for some future models and unique to China design to cut costs.
Why not, they need to cut the price on the base models EVs, at the moment their battery and motors don't have any groundbreaking tech to justify the price.
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