Defender [Renders] 2019 Land Rover Defender

[SCOTT27]

Yes they know their market. Chelsea play thing next summer.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

This is the car that has to save JLR to a large degree. They HAVE to get this right and also why it was delayed.

 

[Serpens]

I’m going to be seeing so many of these in my area.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Not that shabby, esp in 5dr spec. Like the white-wheeled poverty look.

 

[sako97]

The lack of quality pictures is frustrating. I’ll reserve judgment till tomorrow.

This is the car that has to save JLR to a large degree. They HAVE to get this right and also why it was delayed.

J LR. I think we’re at a point where we need to separate the entities. Jaguar is doomed with nothing in sight to turn the brand around. LR has a lot going for the brand.

 

[KiwiRob]

The lack of quality pictures is frustrating. I’ll reserve judgment till tomorrow.



J LR. I think we’re at a point where we need to separate the entities. Jaguar is doomed with nothing in sight to turn the brand around. LR has a lot going for the brand.

Jaguar are selling all the I-Paces they can build, I see them multiple times per day now, when pre I-Pace you could go months without seeing a Jag.

 

[Rolf]

I had my reservations earlier but after seeing these leaked pics, I think Land Rover have a winner. Sure its not retro and doesnt have much resemblance to the original model, but it is new and refreshing change to their line up.

 

[martinbo]

The word "iconic" is quite possibly the most overused word in modern marketing.
Nakheel will soon open its Palm Tower & mall complex in Dubai and their signposted strapline is "iconically soulful shopping experiences". Good grief - what on Earth could possibly be iconically soulful about damn shopping!

Overuse aside, there are occasions when the word iconic can be aptly applied to automotive products, sometimes debatably so.
The original Land Rover (Series X and Defender) lineage is an example of the iconic term being appropriately applied with the vehicle being ubiquitously recognisable all over the world.

I don't see anything iconic in this new iteration other than fanciful referencing of what was once a true utilitarian icon.

 

[KiwiRob]

The word "iconic" is quite possibly the most overused word in modern marketing.
Nakheel will soon open its Palm Tower & mall complex in Dubai and their signposted strapline is "iconically soulful shopping experiences". Good grief - what on Earth could possibly be iconically soulful about damn shopping!

Overuse aside, there are occasions when the word i...

I think you need to understand that the old Land Rovers time has passed, it was a truly horrible vehicle to drive and be a passenger in. It's a pity Mercedes hadn't realised that same was true with the G, it's no longer a commercial vehicle, trades people will never buy a G, there is no G van, pickup, troop carrier, the new G is a vehicle designed for the WAGs of wealthy men.

 

[martinbo]

I think you need to understand that the old Land Rovers time has passed, it was a truly horrible vehicle to drive and be a passenger in. It's a pity Mercedes hadn't realised that same was true with the G, it's no longer a commercial vehicle, trades people will never buy a G, there is no G van, pickup, troop carrier, the new G is a vehicle designed for...

I'd wager that I've spent many thousands of kilometers more in a Defender - on and off road - than you have.
I know all too well how uncomfortable (on-road) and cramped it was. With my long legs, it was very uncomfortable to drive but I did. Conversely, the old car was magic to drive off-road in rough 'n tough conditions.

Let's wait for the official release of the new Defender before I comment further on this all new interpretation.

 

[KiwiRob]

You probably have spent more time behind the wheel than me, but done several thousand km's and the NZ Land Rover experience and sold them. But I've spend enough time to know it's a dinosaur and was badly in need of replacement. The Japanese pickups killed it stone dead in NZ.

 

[martinbo]

You probably have spent more time behind the wheel than me, but done several thousand km's and the NZ Land Rover experience and sold them. But I've spend enough time to know it's a dinosaur and was badly in need of replacement. The Japanese pickups killed it stone dead in NZ.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not for one moment in doubt of your knowledge or experience with the erstwhile Defender. I agree with your opinion which I feel is solid and on point.
I too feel that the Defender was beyond long-in-the-tooth even before the turn of century. My feeling, however, is that precious little of the core values which made the Defender so appealing in specific areas - including looks - has come across in the new model.

I'm not saying that the Defender can't get a thorough update - heck I may even disregard the switch to JLR's familiarly founded monocoque - my issue is that I'm not getting enough rugged, nuggety, utilitarian vibes, even from the exterior styling which, to these eyes at least, are a bit "Bland Rover".

Jeep managed to imbue its new Wrangler with a modern (and very familiar) take on its own off-road icon and the result is a commendably appealing and instantly recognisable outcome.
Even the WAG-mobile G-Class (as deplorably fashionable it may have become) has retained the strong identity of its lineage. Toyota still does properly rugged Land Cruiser utilitarians in pickup and wagon guise alongside its more luxuriously appointed 200 models.

Anyhow, let's wait for the official press release and then continue with this debate.

 

[dalab]

If I remember correctly this reincarnation is in plans for more than 10 years (since I saw the first drawings and idea) and I am glad that it will finally be done, in my opinion it is clearly a modern retro interpretation (similar to what was done With the Mini) masterfully materialized, I really like that it is also faithful to the first sketches of a decade ago, VW wants to enter this segment that could become the new great thing,(I saw some great renders) very well played Land Rover.

PD: By the way the detail of the fuel container hung on the side is super cool

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Love it.

 

[Serpens]

Jaguar are selling all the I-Paces they can build, I see them multiple times per day now, when pre I-Pace you could go months without seeing a Jag.

They're not selling very well here. We have a 6 month supply in the U.S.

EDIT: They actually just hit a new monthly low for I-Pace sales here in August at 160 units sold.

 

[Merc1]

Jaguar is dead in the water. All their car models are hopelessly outclassed. The only bright spot is the F Pace. Everything else is done. Love the F type tho but that segment is dying.

M

 

[Deleted member 1071]

...while I continue to wait for that elusive XJ successor.

 

[Merc1]

Yeah I can’t wait to see that.

M

 

[Grosser]

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[Merc1]

Ding!!!!! We have a winner.

Love it!!

M