Volvo & Saab Sale Thread
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Mr Robert
Kraftwagen König
BMW + Volvo rumors (again)
Here we go again with the BMW + volvo rumor. On todays morning news they said that there had been recent contacts between BMW and Ford regarding the purchase of the Volvo brand. BMW and Ford on the other hand is denying everything.
So, is there anything going on this time?
Here we go again with the BMW + volvo rumor. On todays morning news they said that there had been recent contacts between BMW and Ford regarding the purchase of the Volvo brand. BMW and Ford on the other hand is denying everything.
So, is there anything going on this time?
Swedish car magazine says BMW will buy Volvo again
Swedish car magazine www.teknikensvarld.se says BMW will buy Volvo again, anyone who have read about this some where else today?
http://www.teknikensvarld.se
Swedish car magazine www.teknikensvarld.se says BMW will buy Volvo again, anyone who have read about this some where else today?
http://www.teknikensvarld.se
EnI
Piston Pioneer
Re: Swedish car magazine says BMW will buy Volvo again
Aston Martin is still in sight ... BMW are more interested to buy remaining Ford's stake in AM than acquiring Volvo.
So BMW will buy Volvo and a share in MB. So what's next, buying Porsche and the whole VW Group?
Aston Martin is still in sight ... BMW are more interested to buy remaining Ford's stake in AM than acquiring Volvo.
Brookside
Schwarzwald Sprinter
Re: BMW + Volvo (again)
I just don't see the reason to do a merger/takeover of Volvo. Virtually every model that Volvo makes is either matched by BMW or in the works.
Ford is desperate to raise more cash- and every so often it seems like someone hoists a flag up saying Volvo is back on the trading block-
let's face it, everything is for sale if the price is right- but coming at this time when potential buyers, including the usual suspects, particularly BMW, are probably holding pat with what they've got....
I doubt it'll happen.
But, I've been wrong before.
I just don't see the reason to do a merger/takeover of Volvo. Virtually every model that Volvo makes is either matched by BMW or in the works.
Ford is desperate to raise more cash- and every so often it seems like someone hoists a flag up saying Volvo is back on the trading block-
let's face it, everything is for sale if the price is right- but coming at this time when potential buyers, including the usual suspects, particularly BMW, are probably holding pat with what they've got....
I doubt it'll happen.
But, I've been wrong before.
EnI
Piston Pioneer
Re: BMW + Volvo (again)
The minority share is still owned by Ford, while the rest is in the hands of David Richards, some English AM aficionado & some Kuwaiti investment funds.
With buying Ford's stake in AM BMW would get closer to the deal with AM regarding sharing engines etc. Blocking Daimler to seal the deal with AM.
And perhaps ... maybe Richards & Co. will be forced to sell AM (at any price) and BMW are waiting.
Mind the deal breaking issue was the Ford's remaining stake in AM (+ the right of first refusal) , and the price was too high.
The minority share is still owned by Ford, while the rest is in the hands of David Richards, some English AM aficionado & some Kuwaiti investment funds.
With buying Ford's stake in AM BMW would get closer to the deal with AM regarding sharing engines etc. Blocking Daimler to seal the deal with AM.
And perhaps ... maybe Richards & Co. will be forced to sell AM (at any price) and BMW are waiting.
Mind the deal breaking issue was the Ford's remaining stake in AM (+ the right of first refusal) , and the price was too high.
SCOTT27
Drift Dynamo
Re: BMW + Volvo (again)
Aston Martin is still in sight ... BMW are more interested to buy remaining Ford's stake in AM than acquiring Volvo.
Aston Martin is very much a target still for BMW no matter what the speculation regarding Mercedes-Benz is like.
There are people who have voiced discomfort over the impending share base with Maybach. Admitting privately that Aston Martin better suits to slot underneath Rolls-Royce and above BMW rather than below Maybach as Mercedes continues to refer Maybach as relevant when others see it as not.
The point is to get in ahead before anything begins as what Ford done to Land Rover immensing all technology and componentry with Jaguar.
BMW would have taken Land Rover back and fulfilled it's strategy for the BMW Developed Range Rover and gave it a V12 and access to BMW individual for specialist interiors. This would give BMW a prestigious portfolio of brands - MINI - BMW - Land Rover - Rolls-Royce.
Unfortunately to buy Land Rover you had to take Jaguar aswell and BMW's off the head plan - a complete clear out of the sedans and concentrate on Sports cars - Think Porsche . did not sit well with the Ford board.
Now with Volvo. BMW are communicating with Volvo.
Aston Martin is still in sight ... BMW are more interested to buy remaining Ford's stake in AM than acquiring Volvo.
Aston Martin is very much a target still for BMW no matter what the speculation regarding Mercedes-Benz is like.
There are people who have voiced discomfort over the impending share base with Maybach. Admitting privately that Aston Martin better suits to slot underneath Rolls-Royce and above BMW rather than below Maybach as Mercedes continues to refer Maybach as relevant when others see it as not.
The point is to get in ahead before anything begins as what Ford done to Land Rover immensing all technology and componentry with Jaguar.
BMW would have taken Land Rover back and fulfilled it's strategy for the BMW Developed Range Rover and gave it a V12 and access to BMW individual for specialist interiors. This would give BMW a prestigious portfolio of brands - MINI - BMW - Land Rover - Rolls-Royce.
Unfortunately to buy Land Rover you had to take Jaguar aswell and BMW's off the head plan - a complete clear out of the sedans and concentrate on Sports cars - Think Porsche . did not sit well with the Ford board.
Now with Volvo. BMW are communicating with Volvo.
Giannis
Staff member
Re: BMW + Volvo (again)
About Volvo, is there any chance that it will be sold, and i BMW buys them, then is Volvo gonna share any components with BMW at all?
Second question, BMW should place Volvo underneath the BMW brand, but above the MINI brand, as a direct competitor to VW and Co.?
About Volvo, is there any chance that it will be sold, and i BMW buys them, then is Volvo gonna share any components with BMW at all?
Second question, BMW should place Volvo underneath the BMW brand, but above the MINI brand, as a direct competitor to VW and Co.?
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
Re: BMW + Volvo (again)
That would probably be the case
Volvo = FWD
BMW = RWD
Volvo would ideally become BMW's version of SEAT slotting in between VW and BMW in terms of pricing. That's where Volvo actually is today, their cars are much cpeaher than BMW, Audi and MErcedes' offerings.
That would probably be the case
Volvo = FWD
BMW = RWD
Volvo would ideally become BMW's version of SEAT slotting in between VW and BMW in terms of pricing. That's where Volvo actually is today, their cars are much cpeaher than BMW, Audi and MErcedes' offerings.
ateekt
Nürburgring Navigator
jack
Kraftkurve King
Re: BMW + Volvo (again)
BMW & AM
(my two favourite car brands ... next to mini )
i think volvo would be better positioned near Volkswagen - neighter as premium as bmw nor as cheap as seat.
- urban cars for environmental aware people.
their FWD platforms would also suit to mini
i just hope that they don't adapt volvo safty measurements, they can definitly be a pain in your neck
BMW & AM
(my two favourite car brands ... next to mini )i think volvo would be better positioned near Volkswagen - neighter as premium as bmw nor as cheap as seat.
- urban cars for environmental aware people.
their FWD platforms would also suit to mini
i just hope that they don't adapt volvo safty measurements, they can definitly be a pain in your neck
Giannis
Staff member
Re: BMW + Volvo (again)
As a Volvo owner the last three years, i can confirm that they are thirsty as hell, but for an FWD platform, my S60 handles very good. But as far as the driving pleasure is concerned, then they need a step forward. Especially with those bloody steering wheels...
As a Volvo owner the last three years, i can confirm that they are thirsty as hell, but for an FWD platform, my S60 handles very good. But as far as the driving pleasure is concerned, then they need a step forward. Especially with those bloody steering wheels...
