BMW McLaren Supercar

[Cashmere]

Too many ifs and buts in that article.

I'll believe it when I see it. Just like the outcome of the BMW/ Toyota sportscar.

Might as well be a BuzzFeed article:

"10 things you need to know about the BMW Mclaren Supercar. Number 7 will blow your mind!"

 

[Porsche Guy]

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Yeah, file this in "I'll believe it when I see it."

 

[KiwiRob]

"When BMW and McLaren get together, magic happens."

Oh my God... If this turns out to be true, then it's simply the best news I've heard this century...

Scott... Any input??

Apart from the fact BMW got the job by accident the F1 was initially going to be Honda powered.

I really don't see the point in McLaren building a car they will be competing against, I hope it never happens.

 

[Fido]

I can neither Confirm nor Deny....

I don't believe this information.

 

[manuelf]

I really don't see the point in McLaren building a car they will be competing against, I hope it never happens.

This was exactly my thought. McLaren now has a complete palette of Supercars and Hypercars (530, 570, 650, 675, P1). What would be the benefit for McLaren in this deal?

 

[SKY]

German engineering has only made British brands better. I am pretty confident this case will be no different.

 

[aleks_16]

This was exactly my thought. McLaren now has a complete palette of Supercars and Hypercars (530, 570, 650, 675, P1). What would be the benefit for McLaren in this deal?

Cheper carbon Parts, Parts charing, nev in car tech, more money which could be invested to make them even better. Yes it sounds wierd But espacially bmw' engines are very good and be more interesting if the Brand Manager Let the employes more playroom.

 

[Mars1965]

I don't believe a word of it.

Mclaren would introduce a competitor to their one line up? Don't think so.
BMW has the knowledge to engineer a sportscar themselves when they engineered the i8/DTM/M6 GT3.
BMW has the ex Ferrari guy (don't remember his name) who enginered the F1.

 

[Deleted member 25]

Seriously guys, they are planning to present a "crossover" for their 100th birthday, do you think a flat out supercar is really on the cards.

 

[klier]

This was exactly my thought. McLaren now has a complete palette of Supercars and Hypercars (530, 570, 650, 675, P1). What would be the benefit for McLaren in this deal?

Another model in the line up? One for BMW and one for McLaren, maybe differently tuned and with different design inside out.

I hope it's true, but I seriously doubt it. I am not getting my hopes up.

 

[klier]

I hope it never happens.

Spoken like a true German car fan.

Now get out of here.

 

[Sunny]

Apart from the fact BMW got the job by accident the F1 was initially going to be Honda powered.

You should go look up on what "accident" means. Yes, McLaren first approached Honda, who were their F1 engine partner at the time, for a big displacement NA engine, but Honda didn't/couldn't do it. So Murray approached Paul Roche (director of BMW motorsports division and with whom he had previously worked at Brabham) and requested an engine. And who then developed S70/2, which met or exceeded most his requirements (it was slightly heavier than what Murray wanted but also was far more powerful).

I frankly don't seen an "accident" here, does anyone else? So either you don't know what an accident is, or in your twisted mind, to disparage anything BMW, is just fudging stuff. Sad.

 

[Zafiro]

If this happens I'll eat my own thumb live on youtube.

 

[JadeVetti]

Watching. Don't believe it either. Although, it makes for such a storyline.

 

[KiwiRob]

German engineering has only made British brands better. I am pretty confident this case will be no different.

I'd put McLaren engineering up against any German brand.

You should go look up on what "accident" means. Yes, McLaren first approached Honda, who were their F1 engine partner at the time, for a big displacement NA engine, but Honda didn't/couldn't do it. So Murray approached Paul Roche (director of BMW motorsports division and with whom he had previously worked at Brabham) and requested an engine. And who then developed S70/2, which met or exceeded most his requirements (it was slightly heavier than what Murray wanted but also was far more powerful).

I frankly don't seen an "accident" here, does anyone else? So either you don't know what an accident is, or in your twisted mind, to disparage anything BMW, is just fudging stuff. Sad.

Yip an accident, from what I've read Murray met Roche on the BMW Motorsport stand at the Autosport International Show, got talking about the F1 and the problems they were having with Honda over the engine, Roche said something along the lines of have I got something for you and it went on from there, it was an accidential meeting that lead to BMW slapping together a couple of E36 M3 engines into the S70/2, the rest is history.

 

[Sunny]

Yip an accident, from what I've read Murray met Roche on the BMW Motorsport stand at the Autosport International Show, got talking about the F1 and the problems they were having with Honda over the engine, Roche said something along the lines of have I got something for you and it went on from there, it was an accidential meeting that lead to BMW slapping together a couple of E36 M3 engines into the S70/2, the rest is history.

Source? All I have read says Murray specifically sought Paul Roche based on their previous history Brabham -

Murray turned to Paul Roche who was the head of BMW's M division. The two men knew each other from when BMW supplied engines to the Brabham Formula 1 team, and Murray designed the car

http://www.autoviva.com/news/20_years_of_perfection_the_mclaren_f1/4282

I'd put McLaren engineering up against any German brand.

You don't have to. FIA is, almost every 2 weeks and the result is just painful to watch.

 

[martinbo]

Here's a very useful equation to employ when it comes to such matters:

ToT = S + F

where:
ToT = Title of Thread
S = Shit
F = Flying

 

[KiwiRob]

Source? All I have read says Murray specifically sought Paul Roche based on their previous history Brabham - http://www.autoviva.com/news/20_years_of_perfection_the_mclaren_f1/4282 .

Murray’s Plan A was for the F1 to have a Honda engine. It was entirely logical: McLaren F1 cars raced with Honda engines, and discussions got quite advanced, with Murray travelling twice to Japan. The plans were for either a 4.5-litre V10 or V12, but then all that changed. ‘Suddenly someone in Honda marketing decided that with the next crop of Hondas coming out – I think a 3.0-litre V6 was going to be their biggest engine –this was going to be a step too far from a marketing point of view,’ says Murray. It got to the stage where the F1 was designed with a space for the engine, no-one knowing quite what would fill it. Then, in 1990, Murray walked past the BMW garage after the Hockenheim Formula 1 race, where he spotted engine genius Paul Rosche having an after-hours beer. ‘He was a mate from my days at Brabham,’ remembers Murray. ‘He said “I’ll do you an engine”!’ Less than two years later, the McLaren F1 had a bespoke BMW V12.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/featur...-inside-story-by-peter-stevens-gordon-murray/

Sorry got the location wrong but the content was correct, it was never a formal approach. Isuzu even offered McLaren their 3.5L V12 F1 engine.

You don't have to. FIA is, almost every 2 weeks and the result is just painful to watch.

I was hoping you say something like that, Mercedes supply the money but their cars and engines are designed and built in the UK. F1 is a British sport, with mostly British based teams and designers. There are only 3 teams not based in the UK.

Baring Mercedes efforts pre WW2 and 1954/55 has there ever been a successful German designed and built entry into F1? I don't know of any.

 

[Gianclaudio]

Spoken like a true German car fan.

Now get out of here.

Was going to highlight the same, but let it pass. Really, genuinely can't figure out what he does on a German car forum, for all this immense hate to BMW, Porsche and Mercedes. And of course, the beggarly excuse of bringing some spice the table and being the voice against flow, because without his brattish attitude, we'll be kissing our hairy butts and living in harmony.

At least now, has the bravery to recognize he's a deliberate troll.