Jonathan19
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Good question, he will have the first one but don't know if it's his spec.
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Design FIRST
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No car featured at the Goodwood FoS 2024 has captivated me more than this:
No company that has such immensely gifted designers deserves the sort of unsettling financial turbulence that Polestar has been exposed to. I am certainly hoping that they can weather the storm successfully.
No company that has such immensely gifted designers deserves the sort of unsettling financial turbulence that Polestar has been exposed to. I am certainly hoping that they can weather the storm successfully.
tristatez28lt1
Tire Trailblazer
Did it drive?No car featured at the Goodwood FoS 2024 has captivated me more than this:
No company that has such immensely gifted designers deserves the sort of unsettling financial turbulence that Polestar has been exposed to. I am certainly hoping that they can weather the storm successfully.
Design FIRST
Stuttgart Specialist
I cannot say that I've seen actually film footage of it on the circuit. I spotted an image of it somewhere that seemed to be a "on track image". But that could have been a CGI. In any case, the car in the image did not sport that large rear wing.
Jonathan19
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Bridster
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Well, looking at the Saturday shoot-out results, here are the top5 production car times so far:
(There was some rain in the second half of the event, so I replaced some of those wet times with dry times from this morning's practice)
1. Czinger 21C - 50.06s (morning)
3. Koenigsegg Jesko Attack - 51.64s (morning)
2. Lotus Evija - 51.65s
4. Porsche Taycan Turbo GT - 54.53s
5. Bentley Continental GT - 54.59s
For comparison, last year the Rimac Nevera did 49.32s - which is the production car record and what all the other car will be trying to beat tomorrow.
(There was some rain in the second half of the event, so I replaced some of those wet times with dry times from this morning's practice)
1. Czinger 21C - 50.06s (morning)
3. Koenigsegg Jesko Attack - 51.64s (morning)
2. Lotus Evija - 51.65s
4. Porsche Taycan Turbo GT - 54.53s
5. Bentley Continental GT - 54.59s
For comparison, last year the Rimac Nevera did 49.32s - which is the production car record and what all the other car will be trying to beat tomorrow.
Design FIRST
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Polestar 6 BST presentation + FoS driving footage as of 10:00.
Jonathan19
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Bridster
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Final Sunday Shoot-out results for production cars:
1. Czinger 21C - 48.82s
2. Koenigsegg Jesko Attack - 50.3s
3. Lotus Evija - 51.6s
4. Genesis GV60 Magma Concept - 52.72s
5. Porsche Taycan Turbo GT - 53.33s
6. Bentley Continental GT - 54.42s
7. Ferrari Roma S-A Coupe - 57.01s
8. Rolls-Royce Spectre - 57.02s
The Czinger beats the Rimac Nevera - so that could be considered a new production car record... if the Czinger could be considered a production vehicle, which it currently isn't (and so there is no way to tell if the car they ran at the hill was production spec either). Not sure how strict on this the Goodwood folks are, although I am sure Czinger will try to claim some sort of record anyway.
And, speaking of that, the Lotus Evija is technically not a production car either (not yet, anyway), and I am not sure what the status is of the Genesis GV60 with having a "concept" in its name.
Also - as I always say - the hill run is not a great differentiator of car speed in general, as it matters more who is driving and what kind of balls they have.
The top10 cars overall here:
1. Czinger 21C - 48.82s
2. Koenigsegg Jesko Attack - 50.3s
3. Lotus Evija - 51.6s
4. Genesis GV60 Magma Concept - 52.72s
5. Porsche Taycan Turbo GT - 53.33s
6. Bentley Continental GT - 54.42s
7. Ferrari Roma S-A Coupe - 57.01s
8. Rolls-Royce Spectre - 57.02s
The Czinger beats the Rimac Nevera - so that could be considered a new production car record... if the Czinger could be considered a production vehicle, which it currently isn't (and so there is no way to tell if the car they ran at the hill was production spec either). Not sure how strict on this the Goodwood folks are, although I am sure Czinger will try to claim some sort of record anyway.
And, speaking of that, the Lotus Evija is technically not a production car either (not yet, anyway), and I am not sure what the status is of the Genesis GV60 with having a "concept" in its name.
Also - as I always say - the hill run is not a great differentiator of car speed in general, as it matters more who is driving and what kind of balls they have.
The top10 cars overall here:
Bridster
Oversteer Expert
The upgraded Mcmurtry was there and did hill runs, but non-timed. I am not exactly sure what the policy is, but Goodwood has prevented it from doing any more timed runs after they did the record run in 2022.
martinbo
Staff member
Yes, I saw that the PURE did a an untimed run. I wondered if they’d purposely abstained from the timed event for some or other reason.
I had no idea that Goodwood themselves had excluded McMurtry from timed events.
Revvd
Meister Mechaniker
911 Cup was the hero of this shootout. Modest power, weight and downforce and it still got third place. The driver was just on it. He was even faster than the Alpine, which I was favoring over the Porsche due to better stats... That Frenchie was also in tryhard mode the entire event, but somehow couldn't beat the 911.Final Sunday Shoot-out results for production cars:
1. Czinger 21C - 48.82s
2. Koenigsegg Jesko Attack - 50.3s
3. Lotus Evija - 51.6s
4. Genesis GV60 Magma Concept - 52.72s
5. Porsche Taycan Turbo GT - 53.33s
6. Bentley Continental GT - 54.42s
7. Ferrari Roma S-A Coupe - 57.01s
8. Rolls-Royce Spectre - 57.02s
The Czinger beats the Rimac Nevera - so that could be considered a new production car record... if the Czinger could be considered a production vehicle, which it currently isn't (and so there is no way to tell if the car they ran at the hill was production spec either). Not sure how strict on this the Goodwood folks are, although I am sure Czinger will try to claim some sort of record anyway.
And, speaking of that, the Lotus Evija is technically not a production car either (not yet, anyway), and I am not sure what the status is of the Genesis GV60 with having a "concept" in its name.
Also - as I always say - the hill run is not a great differentiator of car speed in general, as it matters more who is driving and what kind of balls they have.
The top10 cars overall here:
IMO Evija could have been faster than Nevera if the driver wasn't on strict orders to keep it off the hay bales, to not add anymore shame to Lotus' reputation after the Evija X accident.
21C I think underperformed vs what its paper stats are. The car just doesn't have nowhere the downforce that they say. It's probably closer to Jesko in that aspect.
One-off EVs need to be banned. The WRX deserved it more than the EV SuperVan.
Revvd
Meister Mechaniker
Great shots! What was your favorite sounding car of the event?
mini_cooper4
Autotechnik Ace
That's a very difficult question. If the FOS serves to do anything, it's to absolutely humble the giants with the efforts of a car you've never heard of before.
Of the race cars, the Shadow-Chevrolet Mk 1 'Mosport' was probably the best combo of 'pure', 'guttural' and 'melody'... but, it's pretty generic. Most Can-Am cars sound pretty good - but there's little distinction between them, in my humble opinion.
With race cars on hand, no road cars sound any good. The T50 is probably the most distinct, I'd probably say one of the Jesko variants was the loudest, but again, the wail of even a four cylinder S14 in a race-spec E30 M3 is more impressive. Cars like the new M5 are wind noise and tyre noise, they may as well be EV's from the stands.
Shout out to the multi-rotor drift cars, the gas turbine cars, and even the Spierling's fan noise... they all have a harsh 'shriek' more akin to something you'd here at an air show, but they're only ever a noise, and not a feel.
... so ...
I say with no shame, the FW26 V10 brings a tear to my eye, it elicits an emotional reaction from everyone anywhere near it, including the drivers. There's no doubt a bit of bias here, because I'm a BMW fan, a Montoya fan, and I'm incredibly glad I got to see Montoya at the wheel of this F1 car... but, being honest, it's never at proper full-chat on the hill. I know it's an incredible sounding engine, but the reality is Goodwood doesn't do it justice. If the moment's right, you can hear them wapping the throttle at the bottom of the hill, from the entrance to the rally stage (which is the last proper spectator point on the full hill climb)... I've got to go with this car.
I only got this one bit, mostly at idle, and recorded on my potato phone.... but there's little else that puts a grin on my face like naked V10 F1 sound...
For reference, last years Le Mans NASCAR Chevrolet is probably one of the best noises I've ever heard come out of a car, the Petty 43 this year was nowhere near as good.
edit: The point of posting the slightly disappointing video was to demonstrate part of why the FOS is so good... most people would have never got that close to that engine at the time, to experience the sound... and very much the smell of it...
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