S-Class (W223) Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W223) Facelift 2024

[Swissbob]

I think they're waiting on power train updates. I think the S580 is getting a beefed up M177 with 525ps and probably improved emissions compliance.

They need to get rid of the black “premium„plastics. That’s why it takes so long.

 

[mr.Mister]

The 221 looks so majestic here. Mercedes never misses with the S-Class design.

The W221 has aged very gracefully. A timeless design, with a rear end that's very "Maybach-like," flared fenders that give the impression of a widebody, and an interior that's probably the best-built with the highest-quality and most durable materials since the W140. It's also put together much better than the W222 and W223. I really like the perfect balance between analog and digital. I absolutely love the classic controller (instead of a touchscreen), the beautiful, cool, separate aluminum buttons for the climate control and seats, and of course the elegant analog clock in the center console. In the W223, everything is already plastic and merged into a single button — it just doesn't have the same charm and love to details.


This is my S600 – every kilometer driven is still a pleasure. The brutal 830 Nm of torque is always ready — it never sleeps. The ABC suspension also performs its duties with excellence.
I'm thinking about buying a C217, which I find even more beautiful in terms of design, but I know I’d be giving up the legendary V12 Bi-Turbo engine and superior build quality. We'll see...

 

[Swissbob]

Lovely car

I would only add the C217, probably as a 65, but it’s not a replacement TBH.

 

[sako97]

@mr.Mister - Absolutely gorgeous S600. The interior looks brand new.

At times, I miss my old S65. Back in the day having a V12 was a special experience as top of the pack and rare. It was super fast for it’s size, especially rolling pulls from 50-85 mph. Power delivery for days, while not breaking a sweat - feeling buttery smooth. The interior build quality felt rock solid compared to the W220 and, to a degree, its successors in some areas. The tech was impressive for the time as well.

It’s sad when I see W221s in bad condition now. It’s a very solid car and reliable car when taken care of. A complete turnaround from the W220, but if you don’t do simple routine maintenance, they will fall apart like any other car.

 

[mr.Mister]

@mr.Mister - Absolutely gorgeous S600. The interior looks brand new.

At times, I miss my old S65. Back in the day having a V12 was a special experience as top of the pack and rare. It was super fast for it’s size, especially rolling pulls from 50-85 mph. Power delivery for days, while not breaking a sweat - feeling buttery smooth. The interior build quality felt rock solid compared to the W220 and, to a degree, its successors in some areas. The tech was impressive for the time as well.

It’s sad when I see W221s in bad condition now. It’s a very solid car and reliable car when taken care of. A complete turnaround from the W220, but if you don’t do simple routine maintenance, they will fall apart like any other car.

love your ex white 65.... Unfortunately, there will never be cars like that again.

 

[Centurion]

The W221 has aged very gracefully. A timeless design, with a rear end that's very "Maybach-like," flared fenders that give the impression of a widebody, and an interior that's probably the best-built with the highest-quality and most durable materials since the W140. It's also put together much better than the W222 and W223. I really like the perfect balance between analog and digital. I absolutely love the classic controller (instead of a touchscreen), the beautiful, cool, separate aluminum buttons for the climate control and seats, and of course the elegant analog clock in the center console. In the W223, everything is already plastic and merged into a single button — it just doesn't have the same charm and love to details.


This is my S600 – every kilometer driven is still a pleasure. The brutal 830 Nm of torque is always ready — it never sleeps. The ABC suspension also performs its duties with excellence.
I'm thinking about buying a C217, which I find even more beautiful in terms of design, but I know I’d be giving up the legendary V12 Bi-Turbo engine and superior build quality. We'll see...

What a magnificent specimen. black, five spoke alloys and light interior with wood. My ideal spec of a Merc saloon.

 

[Swissbob]

love your ex white 65.... Unfortunately, there will never be cars like that again.

Yes and No.
Currently there’s only one car with the same feel and finish, that’s the G class.

 

[Rolf]

The W221 has aged very gracefully. A timeless design, with a rear end that's very "Maybach-like," flared fenders that give the impression of a widebody, and an interior that's probably the best-built with the highest-quality and most durable materials since the W140. It's also put together much better than the W222 and W223. I really like the perfect balance between analog and digital. I absolutely love the classic controller (instead of a touchscreen), the beautiful, cool, separate aluminum buttons for the climate control and seats, and of course the elegant analog clock in the center console. In the W223, everything is already plastic and merged into a single button — it just doesn't have the same charm and love to details.


This is my S600 – every kilometer driven is still a pleasure. The brutal 830 Nm of torque is always ready — it never sleeps. The ABC suspension also performs its duties with excellence.
I'm thinking about buying a C217, which I find even more beautiful in terms of design, but I know I’d be giving up the legendary V12 Bi-Turbo engine and superior build quality. We'll see...

Beautiful condition and an amazing car. I just love the interior of the W221 I still think it's the best built and looks the most expensive inside of any other modern Mercedes. Your interior looks perfect. Very nice car and it's a keeper.

 

[mr.Mister]

Yes and No.
Currently there’s only one car with the same feel and finish, that’s the G class.

I see your point, but I have to disagree. The new G-Class, while still an icon, has definitely seen a decline in quality in some key areas. As much as it's still marketed as a luxury SUV, the reality is that the newer models suffer from issues. For example, rust is becoming a common issue, and electronics are not as reliable as they once were. I’ve also noticed that the engines, particularly the 500, 580, and 400, just don’t have the durability as before—they’re not as bulletproof anymore.

The interior materials have also taken a hit. The leather on the seats tends to crack and wear much faster, and the leather on the steering wheel wears down quicker than the older G-Wagens. To be honest, it feels like they’re cutting corners in areas that used to make the G-Class feel special and timeless.

So, while the G-Class might still carry that premium/icon image, it's not the same level of craftsmanship and durability it once had. It’s a shame to see such an iconic model decline in these ways.
Special for that crazy price.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

I see your point, but I have to disagree. The new G-Class, while still an icon, has definitely seen a decline in quality in some key areas. As much as it's still marketed as a luxury SUV, the reality is that the newer models suffer from issues. For example, rust is becoming a common issue, and electronics are not as reliable as they once were. I’ve also noticed that the engines, particularly the 500, 580, and 400, just don’t have the durability as before—they’re not as bulletproof anymore.

The interior materials have also taken a hit. The leather on the seats tends to crack and wear much faster, and the leather on the steering wheel wears down quicker than the older G-Wagens. To be honest, it feels like they’re cutting corners in areas that used to make the G-Class feel special and timeless.

So, while the G-Class might still carry that premium/icon image, it's not the same level of craftsmanship and durability it once had. It’s a shame to see such an iconic model decline in these ways.
Special for that crazy price.

G class is indeed by far the most profitable car for MB.

 

[Swissbob]

I see your point, but I have to disagree. The new G-Class, while still an icon, has definitely seen a decline in quality in some key areas. As much as it's still marketed as a luxury SUV, the reality is that the newer models suffer from issues. For example, rust is becoming a common issue, and electronics are not as reliable as they once were. I’ve also noticed that the engines, particularly the 500, 580, and 400, just don’t have the durability as before—they’re not as bulletproof anymore.

The interior materials have also taken a hit. The leather on the seats tends to crack and wear much faster, and the leather on the steering wheel wears down quicker than the older G-Wagens. To be honest, it feels like they’re cutting corners in areas that used to make the G-Class feel special and timeless.

So, while the G-Class might still carry that premium/icon image, it's not the same level of craftsmanship and durability it once had. It’s a shame to see such an iconic model decline in these ways.
Special for that crazy price.

I understand your point.

The M177 and the OM656 are indeed almost bullet proof, they’re far better than their predecessors.

The biggest difference to the older Mercedes Benz is, you need to order the most luxurious interior package to get the best leather.

They are cutting corners I agree, but much less on the G than on the 223.

 

[Nikita6996]

 

[SKY]

It amazes me how MB thinks it is a good idea to have its flagship interior with no trim insertion at all across the dash.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Still a stand alone drivers screen/cockpit. Apparently it's the same set-up as in the E class.

PS Personally I would have preferred less screens or a retractable center screen, that if not in use, desappears behind wood or other sorts of trim. And while I'm at it, a better intergrated driver screen wouild be nice.

 

[Luca]

@mick don't worry, the interior of the future s-class will amaze you

 

[TATE]

@mick don't worry, the interior of the future s-class will amaze you

Have you got new information for next gen s class Luca ?

 

[Luca]

@TATE, unfortunately not, just internet research, but usually what we see on the s class will be repeated in a cascade on the smaller classes

 

[TATE]

@TATE, unfortunately not, just internet research, but usually what we see on the s class will be repeated in a cascade on the smaller classes

In fact the only thing we know , nearly for sure is that il will have steer by wire, son a very small steering wheel giving more room for the driver environment . The rest, concerning the interior , is unknown unfortunately
As soon as the facelift s class will be revealed we’ll start seeing prototypes. So we are un year ago from that, more or less
thanks

 

[Kukobana]

From what I can see, the interior (I'm not talking about the sides-doors) of the new S-Class will be a mix of the interior of the E-Class w214 and the EQS-Class...

 

[Rolf]

Disappointing that they are doing a copy paste of the E-class superscreen dash. I hope they put different air vents on the sides and mostly the center console and doors dont have that crap piano black plastic trim.