News and Rumors about Mercedes-AMG

[Monster]

I’m one of those buyers! Have my C43 for about 2 months now and love it! But yes, it’s not a real AMG and have been tempted to de-badge it.

All would have been perfect with this picture, if they had just kept it "AMG Sport".
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At first I wasn't convinced but after driven a few "43" cars, I am convinced that they do deliver on the overall driving experience. Their level of performance is not far off from the previous generation of AMG cars, although the sound of the engine and exhaust is far different from the V8 rumble, it has its own character and it is just as sporty.

 

[PHYBENZ]

I got the exhaust option and it is a MUST HAVE. Especially in Sport + mode makes and huge difference. Def though not like the exhaust note of a 63. My brother in law has a CLS 63. Totally different animal. One I can’t afford though, so the 43 will have to do!

 

[Monster]

I got the exhaust option and it is a MUST HAVE. Especially in Sport + mode makes and huge difference. Def though not like the exhaust note of a 63. My brother in law has a CLS 63. Totally different animal. One I can’t afford though, so the 43 will have to do!

Oh yeah the sports exhaust is a must have option, it pops and cracks like a rifle, it doesn't have the deep multi layered rumble of the 63 but I might actually prefer the more mechanical sounding of the 43.

 

[mehdi tavakol]

 

[Wolfgang]

 

[Wolfgang]

 

[Sovereign]

Mercedes Benz is the most valuable automotive brand.

According to a report compiled by Brand Finance, Mercedes-Benz is the world’s most valuable automobile brand.
The company places the German automaker’s value at $43.9 billion, a 24 per cent jump over the previous year. The key contributor in this jump in value was the 9.9 per cent rise in car sales to 2.3 million vehicles.
The position of Mercedes-Benz in the rankings isn’t the only intriguing thing. Slipping down to second position is Toyota, falling to a valuation of $43.7 billion, while BMW rose by 6 per cent to $41.8 billion. Brand Finance asserts that customers in the brand’s home country have shifted their focus from Toyota models towards more premium brands including Mercedes-Benz.
“Mercedes-Benz invented the automobile, and is now leading the industry with a brand strategy focused on re-inventing the automobile,” Brand Finance chief executive David Haigh said.
“Their success has been driven by the introduction of a new generation of vehicles led by their renewed foray into SUVs and smooth evolution of new technologies to move away from traditional internal combustion engines.”
Following Mercedes, Toyota, and BMW in the top 10 most valuable brands were Volkswagen, Honda, Nissan, Porsche, Ford, Audi and Chevrolet.
In terms of brand value change between 2017 and 2018, it was Aston Martin which easily took the crown, as its perceived value skyrocketed by 268 per cent. Other brands to enjoy significant jumps in value were BYD (211 per cent), Haval (124 per cent), Tesla (106 per cent), Jaguar (105 per cent) and Smart (103 per cent).

 

[Adr5]

Mercedes-AMG could launch Cayman rival as next bespoke model
Mercedes’ performance division boss said more models could follow the new GT 4dr Coupé
Tobias Moers, the boss of Mercedes-AMG, has hinted that another stand-alone AMG model is already being considered to sit alongside the existing GT Coupé and new GT 4dr Coupé.

The two GT models are the first from the performance division not to be based on standard Mercedes derivatives, but Moers said they are by no means the last. However, he was swift in ruling out a unique AMG SUV, which might be the most obvious choice for Affalterbach’s next project.

“There was a clear space in the market for the four-door GT,” he said, “but we already have many excellent AMG SUV derivatives and it makes no sense to steal from them just so we can make our own car.”
Quite what the new car would be is not clear, but it seems most likely to be a smaller, more affordable sports car to steal sales from Porsche’s Boxster and Cayman – something the current Mercedes SLC has never had the firepower or focus to achieve.

As previously revealed by Autocar, Moers also confirmed that the GT 4dr Coupé will get a 4.0-litre V8 hybrid powertrain with at least 800bhp in the future. The hybrid set-up, first seen in the concept version last year (pictured above), will become the flagship model for the car when it arrives in 2020. It is likely to use the ‘EQ Power+’ soubriquet and will be a direct response to the Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid, which currently has 670bhp and is good for 193mph.

The additional power of the AMG model suggests a 200mph top speed and a 0-62mph dash of little more than three seconds are very much on the cards. The new powertrain won’t be restricted to the GT 4dr Coupé, either; in time, it will be used in the S-Class and the next GLS (where it might also power a Maybach model). This means it will in effect replace the ‘65’ models with their 6.0-litre V12 engines.

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[sako97]

Kill the zombie SLC, give it the I6 riding on the smallest version of the MFA platform, a beautiful design, and you'll have yourself a winner.

 

[Tarek]

Pretty much expected move from AMG giving how they are aggressively attacking every car in Porsche's lineup.

 

[Matski]

Could be a good move, I'd much rather they did that than try and keep the SLC on life support. Haven't read the link but that does appear to be total speculation on Autocars part.. Moers didn't mention it at all?

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

I called this ages ago!

10-15 years from now AMG will almost be a stand-alone brand with a stable to rival Porsche. Let’s hope Maybach gets there eventually too.

This is a far more intelligent strategic move than ‘Bulshitrische Motor Wank’ or whatever the hell they call it.

Sorry I couldn’t help myself. My bad.

 

[Der Hofmeister]

I called this ages ago!

10-15 years from now AMG will almost be a stand-alone brand with a stable to rival Porsche. Let’s hope Maybach gets there eventually too.

This is a far more intelligent strategic move than ‘Bulshitrische Motor Wank’ or whatever the hell they call it.

Sorry I couldn’t help myself. My bad.

Yeah right, plain intelligent...

Are you calling ‘Bulshitrische Motor Wank’ intelligence as well? Silly, just silly...

 

[Matski]

10-15 years from now AMG will almost be a stand-alone brand with a stable to rival Porsche. Let’s hope Maybach gets there eventually too.

Slight irony that AMG came from being a standalone company for this to be the case.

This is a far more intelligent strategic move than ‘Bulshitrische Motor Wank’ or whatever the hell they call it.

Sorry I couldn’t help myself. My bad.

That's a different thing though... BMW aren't changing the names of any divisions or vehicles, they're simply changing the logo they use in some marketing materials. The closer comparison would be if BMW started building brand new models that were only available as Alpinas.

I actually don't mind the Bulshitrische Motor Wank Bayerische Motoren Werke thing personally... I'm sure it used to say it on the drivers handbooks in the 70's or 80's... I'll have to consult my stash of them when I get home.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Slight irony that AMG came from being a standalone company for this to be the case.



That's a different thing though... BMW aren't changing the names of any divisions or vehicles, they're simply changing the logo they use in some marketing materials. The closer comparison would be if BMW started building brand new models that were only available as Alpinas.

I actually don't mind the Bulshitrische Motor Wank Bayerische Motoren Werke thing personally... I'm sure it used to say it on the drivers handbooks in the 70's or 80's... I'll have to consult my stash of them when I get home.

Interesting point about AMG. I guess the fundamental 'tuning of MB products' is still at the heart of the business case. Even the standalone models could arguably be categorized under this umbrella since they share so much DNA with regular MB variants.

I didn't mean to draw direct comparison between the two strategies, just pointing out that Mercedes brand management has perhaps of late, 5-7 years, been superior to what has been occurring over at BMW AG. Rather than fostering the M division into being a powerhouse in the guise of AMG they seem more concerned with trying to convince buyers to swallow some very high end BMW vehicles where they have traditionally struggled. It will perhaps pay off in a market as fickle as China, but I doubt established markets are going to swallow the whole Bayerische spiel.

The 'i' brand spinoff was perhaps a bit too premature as well. Time will tell.

Conversely I guess you could argue Daimler AG has been lost like a headless chook with respect to Smart, whereas BMW AG has masterfully fostered the growth of Rolls Royce and Mini.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Interesting point about AMG. I guess the fundamental 'tuning of MB products' is still at the heart of the business case. Even the standalone models could arguably be categorized under this umbrella since they share so much DNA with regular MB variants.

I didn't mean to draw direct comparison between the two strategies, just pointing out that Mercedes brand management has perhaps of late, 5-7 years, been superior to what has been occurring over at BMW AG. Rather than fostering the M division into being a powerhouse in the guise of AMG they seem more concerned with trying to convince buyers to swallow some very high end BMW vehicles where they have traditionally struggled. It will perhaps pay off in a market as fickle as China, but I doubt established markets are going to swallow the whole Bayerische spiel.

The 'i' brand spinoff was perhaps a bit too premature as well. Time will tell.

Conversely I guess you could argue Daimler AG has been lost like a headless chook with respect to Smart, whereas BMW AG has masterfully fostered the growth of Rolls Royce and Mini.

I would say that lately BMW struggles from bad and indecisive management. The worst example for this is the message that they made with their latest decision for canceling a stand alone electrical platform. To me the message sounds like this: We (BMW) will compromise both the normal cars and the electrical cars because we FEAR that we will not sell enough electrical vehicles in order to justify a stand alone production line that can be not sufficiently utilized. Why should the customer bear the consequences of their fears? This is absolutely in contrast to the brave and pioneer decision for the "i" brand, the idea of which is turned into obsolete by the current decision.

 

[WAND]

 

[BMW3GT]

*cough* Tesla Roadster *cough*

 

[tristatez28lt1]

AMG is already a stand alone brand. CI, brand, marketing, strategy, are already AMG only. Same will happen with EQ and Maybach.

 

[Der Hofmeister]

I would say that lately BMW struggles from bad and indecisive management. The worst example for this is the message that they made with their latest decision for canceling a stand alone electrical platform. To me the message sounds like this: We (BMW) will compromise both the normal cars and the electrical cars because we FEAR that we will not sell enough electrical vehicles in order to justify a stand alone production line that can be not sufficiently utilized. Why should the customer bear the consequences of their fears? This is absolutely in contrast to the brave and pioneer decision for the "i" brand, the idea of which is turned into obsolete by the current decision.

Quite frankly, managers and executives from the Reithofer era were far more open and keen to exploring challenging opportunities. Kruger, even though he is a skilled CEO, seems to be stuck in ideas sometimes.