C-Class W205 [Official] 2019 Mercedes-Benz C-Class Facelift
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The Mercedes-Benz W205 is the fourth generation of the Mercedes-Benz C-Class which was produced by Daimler AG between 2014 and 2021. The W205 C-Class was preceded by the W204 C-Class and superseded by the W206 C-Class. The fourth-generation C-Class was available in sedan (W205), station wagon/estate (S205), coupe (C205), cabriolet (A205) and long-wheelbase sedan (V205) body styles.
The S4 outperforms 0-60 even though it has less HP and torgue.
I'd much rather have AWD and a highly tuned V6.
Serpens
Torque Titan
43 AMG and 53 AMG models call your name. Give me the V8! I think its a cool differentiating factor in a crowded segment. I'm going to enjoy the V8 a lot more than the 0-60 time of an S4 with its incredibly uncharismatic V6.
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Exactly. I hope they can keep it for the next generation in some form. A better 0-60 time doesn't mean squat vs the entire experience of the car.
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DjordjeC63
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180d is Renault engine?
Tarek
Cornering Kingpin
I hope you're a joking. There's tons of vids on youtube with the pre FL C63s with the old 7G smoking the RS4 on good launch and needless to say on rolling starts.. the torque of that V8 is simply unmatched.
Sadly AMG boss said in an interview the next C63 will have a hybrid six cylinder setup.
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The production of the new C-Class starts in Bremen, Germany
The production of the new C-Class Saloon starts in Bremen. The first car has already rolled off the assembly line of the production facility in Germany.
Four plants are set to work on the new C-Class: the lead plant Bremen the plants in Tuscaloosa (USA), East London (South Africa) and Beijing (China) will gradually transit from the current model to the next generation.
For the assembly of the new Mercedes-Benz C-Class, the plants make use of state-of-the-art digital production technologies and forward-looking Industry 4.0 solutions, making it possible to optimize the material flow, further increase efficiency and flexibility and further improve ergonomics for employees.
The new C-Class is the image of sportiness mixed with emotion and intelligence. With pure and clearly drawn contours from the front to the rear end, with new alloy wheels and with the introduction of new colours, new mid-size sedan C-Class brings the latest in active safety through the use of innovative driver assistance systems.
The car is optionally available with a fully digital instrument display with the three visually different styles “Classic”, “Sport” and “Progressive”. For the first time in this model series, MULTIBEAM LED headlamps with ULTRA RANGE high beam are available.
There are more than 12,500 employees at the Mercedes-Benz plant in Bremen, making the facility the largest private employer in the region. No less than ten models are currently rolling off the assembly lines there: the Saloon, the Estate the Coupé and the Convertible of the C-Class, the Coupé and Convertible of the E-Class, the off-road vehicle GLC, the GLC coupé and the two roadsters SLC and SL. More than 420,000 cars saw the light of day in Bremen last year.
The production of the new C-Class Saloon starts in Bremen. The first car has already rolled off the assembly line of the production facility in Germany.
Four plants are set to work on the new C-Class: the lead plant Bremen the plants in Tuscaloosa (USA), East London (South Africa) and Beijing (China) will gradually transit from the current model to the next generation.
For the assembly of the new Mercedes-Benz C-Class, the plants make use of state-of-the-art digital production technologies and forward-looking Industry 4.0 solutions, making it possible to optimize the material flow, further increase efficiency and flexibility and further improve ergonomics for employees.
The new C-Class is the image of sportiness mixed with emotion and intelligence. With pure and clearly drawn contours from the front to the rear end, with new alloy wheels and with the introduction of new colours, new mid-size sedan C-Class brings the latest in active safety through the use of innovative driver assistance systems.
The car is optionally available with a fully digital instrument display with the three visually different styles “Classic”, “Sport” and “Progressive”. For the first time in this model series, MULTIBEAM LED headlamps with ULTRA RANGE high beam are available.
There are more than 12,500 employees at the Mercedes-Benz plant in Bremen, making the facility the largest private employer in the region. No less than ten models are currently rolling off the assembly lines there: the Saloon, the Estate the Coupé and the Convertible of the C-Class, the Coupé and Convertible of the E-Class, the off-road vehicle GLC, the GLC coupé and the two roadsters SLC and SL. More than 420,000 cars saw the light of day in Bremen last year.
C300DE first impressions of this 2nd gen Diesel/Hybrid...
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Estate C300de 2018 review | Autocar
What is it?
There’s an incredibly strong chance that Mercedes-Benz might just be on to something big with its new C300de.
You’ll be well aware of the battering diesel cars have been subjected to over the past 18 months or so. Both government and mainstream media have increasingly been pushing the idea that oil-burners are bad news for the general public’s health - particularly in busy city centres - despite the fact that any automotive engineer worth their salt will tell you that the latest diesel engines are cleaner, less polluting and more efficient than ever before.
But what if your diesel car was capable of running on nothing but electricity in these built-up areas? And what if, once you’ve left the confines of the urban sprawl, you could rely on the superior range, low CO2 emissions and effortless torque of its engine to get you to your final destination, free from any associated guilt about your choice of powerplant?
That, essentially, is exactly what the C300de sets out to allow you to do.
Like any other plug-in hybrid, it combines an electric motor – here capable of running the car on electricity alone for around 30 miles, courtesy of a 13.5kWh battery – with an internal combustion engine. Unlike in most other plug-in hybrids, though, that engine is fuelled by diesel.
It’s a 2.0-litre, four-cylinder unit that develops 191bhp and a reasonably meaty 295lb ft of torque. The electric motor, on the other hand, makes 121bhp and 325lb ft. Combined, they give the C300de 302bhp, while torque has to be limited to 516lb ft, most likely so as to not overwhelm the nine-speed automatic gearbox.
Not only does this allow Mercedes to make the rather impressive claim that, in the estate guise you see before you, the C300de will be able to do 0-62mph in just 5.7sec, but also that it should also be capable of achieving an average fuel economy figure of 177mpg and CO2 emissions as low as 42g/km, albeit under NEDC conditions.
Now, plug-in hybrids have been making similarly impressive economy claims for some time. And while they might be able to rely on their ability to travel on electricity alone to bring down their consumption and emissions figures in the city, show one a prolonged stretch of motorway and chances are its petrol engine will struggle to return a figure that’s anywhere near those on-paper claims. The Range Rover P400e, for instance, can supposedly manage 101mpg, but I spent a day in one a few months back and the best figure its trip computer could conjure was 23mpg.
Anyway, while some scepticism is always recommended when looking at these things, the point is that the C300de, with its ability to switch to diesel power at the drop of a hat, should be able to come much closer to matching those claims than its petrol-powered contemporaries.
What's it like?
The car certainly made a good effort of it on the test route around Stuttgart, which combined plenty of time in heavy stop-start inner-city traffic with a few stints at speeds closer to what you’d be doing out on the motorway.
While it didn’t manage that hallowed 177mpg figure, its trip computer was still showing an average consumption figure of around 90mpg at the end of the route. That was with the diesel engine being the sole source of power for a good proportion of the total trip, too.
However, while it proved to be impressive from an economy point of view, it’s not an engine you’d be willing to label a glowing example of refinement. While there are certainly diesel units out there that are far gruffer, the C300de’s has a distinctly agricultural edge to its timbre when under load. Even at a steady cruise, its humming away in the background was noticeable, although admittedly I may have become more sensitive to any sound it made after an extended period of running about on battery power alone.
The manner in which the two engines work together is impressive, though. Leave the C300de in its standard Hybrid driving mode and the electric motor provides smooth, linear acceleration off the line. Take off with a bit more urgency and the diesel engine will step in in a largely seamless fashion, with both motors providing that sizeable slug of low-down torque to get the car up to speed in very swift fashion indeed.
The auto ‘box works well, too: you largely won’t notice it working away to swap cogs under the more laid-back driving style that our busy urban route demanded, although whether the same would be true if you were to drive with a degree more enthusiasm, I’m unable to say.
As for the way the C300de rides, it’s a bit of mixed bag. It's certainly a comfortable car; there’s tight, pliant body control here that allows it to deal with undulating surfaces with plenty in the way of confidence. But lumps, bumps and other imperfections in the road’s surface make it lose a touch of its composure, at times giving the impression that it's stumbling over, rather than ironing out, these less-than-stellar patches of Tarmac.
Body roll through tighter corners is well managed, too, and the steering, while not exactly bristling with feel, is pleasingly direct and nicely weighted.
The interior, meanwhile, maintains the same sense of opulence that is common to all C-Classes'. Ambient lighting and wood panelling look the part, although the latter does feel a bit disappointing to the touch, while the leather seats of our test car were both comfortable and supportive.
The C300de goes without the new dual-screen dashboard layout of the new A-Class, though, and its system, while easy enough to operate, isn't the slickest system on the market - particularly next to those offered by Audi and BMW. In a general sense, though, you’re in no danger of feeling short-changed.
Should I buy one?
With the mid-2019 launch of the C300de still some way off, prices are yet to be announced, although I’m not hugely confident that they’ll be particularly cheap. The regular C300d Estate will set you back at least £41,400, so I don’t think it’d be entirely unfair to presume this new diesel-electric variant will likely add at least a few thousand pounds on top of that figure.
This will likely mean that the C300de will only make financial sense for a reasonably small number of rather deep-pocketed individuals who know they’ll likely cover a fairly high number of miles on an annual basis. But that’s generally the case with diesel-powered cars anyway, isn’t it? Yes, they don’t make sense for the driver that’s only ever going to use one for the school run or the morning commute, but there are those who benefit from them greatly.
If combining a diesel engine with an electric motor goes some way to reversing the damage that’s already been done, surely that’s a good thing.
Mercedes-Benz C300de Estate specification
Tested Germany Price £45,000 (est) On sale Summer 2019 Engine 4cyl, 1950cc diesel with electric motor Power 302bhp (combined output) Torque 561lb ft (combined output) Gearbox 9-speed automatic Kerb weight na Top speed 155mph 0-62mph 5.7sec Fuel economy176.6mpg CO2 42g/km
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Estate C300de 2018 review | Autocar
What is it?
There’s an incredibly strong chance that Mercedes-Benz might just be on to something big with its new C300de.
You’ll be well aware of the battering diesel cars have been subjected to over the past 18 months or so. Both government and mainstream media have increasingly been pushing the idea that oil-burners are bad news for the general public’s health - particularly in busy city centres - despite the fact that any automotive engineer worth their salt will tell you that the latest diesel engines are cleaner, less polluting and more efficient than ever before.
But what if your diesel car was capable of running on nothing but electricity in these built-up areas? And what if, once you’ve left the confines of the urban sprawl, you could rely on the superior range, low CO2 emissions and effortless torque of its engine to get you to your final destination, free from any associated guilt about your choice of powerplant?
That, essentially, is exactly what the C300de sets out to allow you to do.
Like any other plug-in hybrid, it combines an electric motor – here capable of running the car on electricity alone for around 30 miles, courtesy of a 13.5kWh battery – with an internal combustion engine. Unlike in most other plug-in hybrids, though, that engine is fuelled by diesel.
It’s a 2.0-litre, four-cylinder unit that develops 191bhp and a reasonably meaty 295lb ft of torque. The electric motor, on the other hand, makes 121bhp and 325lb ft. Combined, they give the C300de 302bhp, while torque has to be limited to 516lb ft, most likely so as to not overwhelm the nine-speed automatic gearbox.
Not only does this allow Mercedes to make the rather impressive claim that, in the estate guise you see before you, the C300de will be able to do 0-62mph in just 5.7sec, but also that it should also be capable of achieving an average fuel economy figure of 177mpg and CO2 emissions as low as 42g/km, albeit under NEDC conditions.
Now, plug-in hybrids have been making similarly impressive economy claims for some time. And while they might be able to rely on their ability to travel on electricity alone to bring down their consumption and emissions figures in the city, show one a prolonged stretch of motorway and chances are its petrol engine will struggle to return a figure that’s anywhere near those on-paper claims. The Range Rover P400e, for instance, can supposedly manage 101mpg, but I spent a day in one a few months back and the best figure its trip computer could conjure was 23mpg.
Anyway, while some scepticism is always recommended when looking at these things, the point is that the C300de, with its ability to switch to diesel power at the drop of a hat, should be able to come much closer to matching those claims than its petrol-powered contemporaries.
What's it like?
The car certainly made a good effort of it on the test route around Stuttgart, which combined plenty of time in heavy stop-start inner-city traffic with a few stints at speeds closer to what you’d be doing out on the motorway.
While it didn’t manage that hallowed 177mpg figure, its trip computer was still showing an average consumption figure of around 90mpg at the end of the route. That was with the diesel engine being the sole source of power for a good proportion of the total trip, too.
However, while it proved to be impressive from an economy point of view, it’s not an engine you’d be willing to label a glowing example of refinement. While there are certainly diesel units out there that are far gruffer, the C300de’s has a distinctly agricultural edge to its timbre when under load. Even at a steady cruise, its humming away in the background was noticeable, although admittedly I may have become more sensitive to any sound it made after an extended period of running about on battery power alone.
The manner in which the two engines work together is impressive, though. Leave the C300de in its standard Hybrid driving mode and the electric motor provides smooth, linear acceleration off the line. Take off with a bit more urgency and the diesel engine will step in in a largely seamless fashion, with both motors providing that sizeable slug of low-down torque to get the car up to speed in very swift fashion indeed.
The auto ‘box works well, too: you largely won’t notice it working away to swap cogs under the more laid-back driving style that our busy urban route demanded, although whether the same would be true if you were to drive with a degree more enthusiasm, I’m unable to say.
As for the way the C300de rides, it’s a bit of mixed bag. It's certainly a comfortable car; there’s tight, pliant body control here that allows it to deal with undulating surfaces with plenty in the way of confidence. But lumps, bumps and other imperfections in the road’s surface make it lose a touch of its composure, at times giving the impression that it's stumbling over, rather than ironing out, these less-than-stellar patches of Tarmac.
Body roll through tighter corners is well managed, too, and the steering, while not exactly bristling with feel, is pleasingly direct and nicely weighted.
The interior, meanwhile, maintains the same sense of opulence that is common to all C-Classes'. Ambient lighting and wood panelling look the part, although the latter does feel a bit disappointing to the touch, while the leather seats of our test car were both comfortable and supportive.
The C300de goes without the new dual-screen dashboard layout of the new A-Class, though, and its system, while easy enough to operate, isn't the slickest system on the market - particularly next to those offered by Audi and BMW. In a general sense, though, you’re in no danger of feeling short-changed.
Should I buy one?
With the mid-2019 launch of the C300de still some way off, prices are yet to be announced, although I’m not hugely confident that they’ll be particularly cheap. The regular C300d Estate will set you back at least £41,400, so I don’t think it’d be entirely unfair to presume this new diesel-electric variant will likely add at least a few thousand pounds on top of that figure.
This will likely mean that the C300de will only make financial sense for a reasonably small number of rather deep-pocketed individuals who know they’ll likely cover a fairly high number of miles on an annual basis. But that’s generally the case with diesel-powered cars anyway, isn’t it? Yes, they don’t make sense for the driver that’s only ever going to use one for the school run or the morning commute, but there are those who benefit from them greatly.
If combining a diesel engine with an electric motor goes some way to reversing the damage that’s already been done, surely that’s a good thing.
Mercedes-Benz C300de Estate specification
Tested Germany Price £45,000 (est) On sale Summer 2019 Engine 4cyl, 1950cc diesel with electric motor Power 302bhp (combined output) Torque 561lb ft (combined output) Gearbox 9-speed automatic Kerb weight na Top speed 155mph 0-62mph 5.7sec Fuel economy176.6mpg CO2 42g/km
Mercedes Benz Passion have shown a Hofele Design C-class with special grill, wheels, paintwork and interior treatment. I think these changes make it look very nice indeed.
HOFELE DESIGN OFFERS C-CLASS SPECIAL EDITION PAN-AMERIKANA
HOFELE-Design GmbH currently offers a new refining program for the C-Class, which is offered as a "PAN-AMERIKANA" special model and is aimed exactly at those whose "standard" is too low at the factory. As a special feature, the package is offered as a complete special model based on the C-Class and can be configured individually.
SPECIAL MODEL PAN-AMERIKANA ON C-CLASS BASIS
The special edition of HOFELE-Design is based on the myth of the legendary Panamericana road race in Mexico, which is especially reflected in the distinctive front grill style of the special C-Class version. Other special features of this PAN-AMERIKANA special model include the special alloy wheels with their many single spokes, which continue the special style of the front grille. The HOFELE 'Mythos' rims have a size of 19 "and are equipped with 225/40 x 19 tires.
MODIFICATION OF THE BUMPER
The front bumpers have aero inserts on both sides that can be made in real carbon, glossy black or chrome. The rear insert is decorated with double tailpipes left and right. All HOFELE special models are supplied with the HOFELE branding package, which includes individually designed and illuminated door sills made of stainless steel and high-quality mats with emblem.
SPECIAL PAINT
The vehicle pictured here is specially painted in the special color 'Gun Metal matt' and the roof is finished with black high-gloss paint. The PAN-AMERIKANA 2-tone interior is complemented by a handmade masterpiece made of genuine leather in "Flamenco Red", as an insert in the black seats - these can also be supplied in Alcantara.
Each HOFELE PAN-AMERIKANA can be configured with all other Mercedes-Benz equipment on offer. This C-Class PAN-AMERIKANA offers prospects the opportunity to differentiate themselves with a unique, BESPOKE 'vehicle from the series.
HOFELE Design bietet C-Klasse Sondermodell PAN-AMERIKANA - Mercedes-Benz Passion Blog / Mercedes Benz, smart, Maybach, AMG
HOFELE DESIGN OFFERS C-CLASS SPECIAL EDITION PAN-AMERIKANA
HOFELE-Design GmbH currently offers a new refining program for the C-Class, which is offered as a "PAN-AMERIKANA" special model and is aimed exactly at those whose "standard" is too low at the factory. As a special feature, the package is offered as a complete special model based on the C-Class and can be configured individually.
SPECIAL MODEL PAN-AMERIKANA ON C-CLASS BASIS
The special edition of HOFELE-Design is based on the myth of the legendary Panamericana road race in Mexico, which is especially reflected in the distinctive front grill style of the special C-Class version. Other special features of this PAN-AMERIKANA special model include the special alloy wheels with their many single spokes, which continue the special style of the front grille. The HOFELE 'Mythos' rims have a size of 19 "and are equipped with 225/40 x 19 tires.
MODIFICATION OF THE BUMPER
The front bumpers have aero inserts on both sides that can be made in real carbon, glossy black or chrome. The rear insert is decorated with double tailpipes left and right. All HOFELE special models are supplied with the HOFELE branding package, which includes individually designed and illuminated door sills made of stainless steel and high-quality mats with emblem.
SPECIAL PAINT
The vehicle pictured here is specially painted in the special color 'Gun Metal matt' and the roof is finished with black high-gloss paint. The PAN-AMERIKANA 2-tone interior is complemented by a handmade masterpiece made of genuine leather in "Flamenco Red", as an insert in the black seats - these can also be supplied in Alcantara.
Each HOFELE PAN-AMERIKANA can be configured with all other Mercedes-Benz equipment on offer. This C-Class PAN-AMERIKANA offers prospects the opportunity to differentiate themselves with a unique, BESPOKE 'vehicle from the series.
HOFELE Design bietet C-Klasse Sondermodell PAN-AMERIKANA - Mercedes-Benz Passion Blog / Mercedes Benz, smart, Maybach, AMG
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
I have driven the C43 and didn't like it.
The steering is vague, too light and doesn't give 1:1 control of the car. It was like driving a W203 C55 AMG. In comfort the car was easy going to the point that you wouldn't have a clue that its an AMG, switch to Sport+ and the engine comes to life.
Unfortunately the ferosiouness and eagerness of the engine note doesn't match slack nature of the steering and spring rate. Think of it more like a C-Class with a sporty engine rather than a lower powered C63 AMG.
What it does have going for it is looks. The tasteful alloys and quad chrome pipes makes it an exceptional look sedan.
The steering is vague, too light and doesn't give 1:1 control of the car. It was like driving a W203 C55 AMG. In comfort the car was easy going to the point that you wouldn't have a clue that its an AMG, switch to Sport+ and the engine comes to life.
Unfortunately the ferosiouness and eagerness of the engine note doesn't match slack nature of the steering and spring rate. Think of it more like a C-Class with a sporty engine rather than a lower powered C63 AMG.
What it does have going for it is looks. The tasteful alloys and quad chrome pipes makes it an exceptional look sedan.
Serpens
Torque Titan
I honestly find this completely shocking. My appraisal of the AMG C43 is that it has very precise and direct steering. Further, if anything I'd like the spring rate to be softened as the ride is actually a bit crunchy (the M340i excels here). Most of the reviews I've read seem to back that impression up.
Anyways, always interesting how experiences differ from person to person.
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