Stelvio [Official] Alfa Romeo Stelvio and Stelvio Quadrifoglio

TopspeedPT · Sep 30, 2017

Alfa did all this video editing...imagine what they did to the car before...

anti-VAG · Sep 30, 2017

LOL

It's just ridiculous to heard all of this nonsense from Porsche uhm VAG fanboys after Panamera's claimed lap time with no video footage.

TopspeedPT · Sep 30, 2017

Your nickname says it all.

Grosser · Sep 30, 2017

@TopspeedPT Looks like Jalopnik copied your videos and that website you posted here

Good work dude! https://jalopnik.com/alfa-romeos-nurburgring-suv-record-lap-video-seems-to-b-1819024762

anti-VAG · Oct 24, 2017

Led Lights (Opt. LM6), Head Up Display (Opt. 120), Infotainment with SIM-Card (Opt. 84Q), Surround View Camera (Opt XAH) Active Roll Control (Opt 031)...

Centurion · Oct 30, 2017

You know a sporty SUV is domed to fail when even racing enthusiasts and Alfa fans find it to much of a compromise. Like someone on the web said, "If there's nothing wrong with it, its not an Alfa". I think adaptive dampers are a must on this car.

It never settles down when you’re driving normally, and when you’re pressing on, you won’t be inclined to put in the commitment the awesome steering encourages you to, not unless the surface is perfect.

Sit an Audi engineer in the Stelvio for any length of time, and I’m almost certain they’d have a panic attack. There’s an incredibly sharp edge at the back of the gear selector. The ‘DNA’ drive select switch feels unforgivably flimsy. The rotary controller doesn’t have the most satisfying action, plus the shiny black plastic stuff on top of it looks naff. Oh and finally, the arm rest doesn’t have a nice latch or button - you simply wrench it open with brute force. In a £44k car, that’s just not good enough.

Car Throttle

anti-VAG · Oct 30, 2017

Centurion said:
You know a sporty SUV is domed to fail when even racing enthusiasts and Alfa fans find it to much of a compromise. Like someone on the web said, "If there's nothing wrong with it, its not an Alfa". I think adaptive dampers are a must on this car.

Go find Quattroruote review. There are a lot of measured data. There is no problem with ride quality and handling compromise. Both are class leading for a car without adaptive dampers.

Serpens · Oct 30, 2017

Centurion said:
You know a sporty SUV is domed to fail when even racing enthusiasts and Alfa fans find it to much of a compromise. Like someone on the web said, "If there's nothing wrong with it, its not an Alfa". I think adaptive dampers are a must on this car.

Car Throttle

I wouldn’t say this car is doomed given the fact that most magazines have loved the ride and handling balance. This review falls outside the norm from what I’ve seen.

CrunchSlaughtered · Oct 30, 2017

This car is doomed because it comes from Italy. Italy has lost its ability to mass produce automobiles in the whole chain of production including suppliers. Its not normal in Spain to be produced 5 times more cars than in Italy. I don't know what are the current numbers but some years ago in Italy were produced only 600 000 cars per year. This is just not serious

Centurion · Oct 31, 2017

Serpens said:
I wouldn’t say this car is doomed given the fact that most magazines have loved the ride and handling balance. This review falls outside the norm from what I’ve seen.

I have encountered negative comments abut the ride in several other reviews. This occasionally also depends on where the test drive is taking place. One magazine mentioned that in Nashville the ride ride was good but was not on the poor roads of Chicago.

This is by no means a bashing of the Stelvio. I welcome it as an alternative to the clinically good Germans, but think that the aggressive pursuit of driving dynamics without adaptive dampers will hurt mainstream appeal. Thankfully, dampers and springs could be changed for any manufacturing year if necessary.

Understandably Alfa are trying to offer something different to the play-it-safe Germans but who the need to impress is women. They love SUVs and if yours is one of them then commercial success is given.

Below are just a few quotes from reviews that didn't take place on the press day, on roads chosen by Alfa. However, don't take them at face value as I'm sure positive quotes about ride comfort exist.

Where it struggles is the ride quality because it never really settles down on really bumpy roads and, with enough pace, there is a constant fear it will bottom out. Perhaps with people in the back and enough shopping it could.

2017 Alfa Romeo Stelvio review: First drive

The double wishbone suspension will, in most situations, keep any spinal specialists out of your life, but on the bumpy countryside bitumen we came across, your head is tossed around like a life-raft in a storm swell.

Alfa Romeo Stelvio 2018 review

The downside is that the ride is a little harder than it should be for an SUV, with big bumps and undulating roads unsettling the Alfa more than rivals.

Alfa Romeo Stelvio Review

The flip side is a relatively firm ride, and there’s no electronic trickery to soften things up, but on balance it’s a worthwhile trade-off. Only the Porsche Macan drives better.

Alfa Romeo Stelvio (2017) review

anti-VAG · Oct 31, 2017

Does any of cited reviews have measured data?

mini_cooper4 · Oct 31, 2017

anti-VAG said:
Does any of cited reviews have measured data?

They measured 16 shattered teeth in total.

Serpens · Oct 31, 2017

Centurion said:
I have encountered negative comments abut the ride in several other reviews. This occasionally also depends on where the test drive is taking place. One magazine mentioned that in Nashville the ride ride was good but was not on the poor roads of Chicago.

This is by no means a bashing of the Stelvio. I welcome it as an alternative to the clinically good Germans, but think that the aggressive pursuit of driving dynamics without adaptive dampers will hurt mainstream appeal. Thankfully, dampers and springs could be changed for any manufacturing year if necessary.

Understandably Alfa are trying to offer something different to the play-it-safe Germans but who the need to impress is women. They love SUVs and if yours is one of them then commercial success is given.

Below are just a few quotes from reviews that didn't take place on the press day, on roads chosen by Alfa. However, don't take them at face value as I'm sure positive quotes about ride comfort exist.

2017 Alfa Romeo Stelvio review: First drive

Alfa Romeo Stelvio 2018 review

Alfa Romeo Stelvio Review

Alfa Romeo Stelvio (2017) review

This makes sense. None of these are American reviews. I wonder if there's different suspension tuning.

anti-VAG · Oct 31, 2017

Centurion · Oct 31, 2017

Serpens said:
This makes sense. None of these are American reviews. I wonder if there's different suspension tuning.

That could be a possibility. Locals roads are a huge factor too. Last month I spent over two weeks in Florida and the difference between the roads there, and those locally in England, is like night and day.

In Palm Beach Florida the are straight, flat and smooth while in England they curve, have elevation change, pot holes, broken tarmac and lateral gradient.

Palm beach roads = F1 track.
English roads outside of London = Back roads of Mogadishu.

I would go as far to say that in Florida, adaptive suspension is not necessary while in some parts in the UK it's a must on sporty cars unless you are an enthusiast to whom comfort isn't a priority.

Worth mentioning is that the Porsche Macan excels at engagement and comfort.

Serpens · Oct 31, 2017

Centurion said:
That could be a possibility. Locals roads are a huge factor too. Last month I spent over two weeks in Florida and the difference between the roads there, and those locally in England, is like night and day.

In Palm Beach Florida the are straight, flat and smooth while in England they curve, have elevation change, pot holes, broken tarmac and lateral gradient.

Palm beach roads = F1 track.
English roads outside of London = Back roads of Mogadishu.

I would go as far to say that in Florida, adaptive suspension is not necessary while in some parts in the UK it's a must on sporty cars unless you are an enthusiast to whom comfort isn't a priority.

Worth mentioning is that the Porsche Macan excels at engagement and comfort.

No doubt, but of course Florida is an exceptional case due to weather and geography. There are plenty of major cities with poorly maintained roads that span rolling hills and mountains across the U.S. Consumer Reports, for example, actually felt that the Stelvio was less firm than the Macan.