Taycan [Official] Porsche Taycan
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The Porsche Taycan is a battery electric luxury sports sedan and shooting brake car produced by Porsche.
Bridster
Oversteer Expert
I am not saying Porsche shouldn't be trying to beat the Plaid, just that beating it by 1s or whatever, but then having half the range as a result of bad drag coefficient is not gonna impress anyone. They should be trying to make the car faster through chassis/suspension/weight improvements alone to preserve range.
I mean, Porsche should know best... but then engineers are not the ones who ultimately make the decisions.
Tourbillon
Cornering Kingpin
www.autoevolution.com/news/porsche-prepares-a-1000-hp-taycan-to-smash-the-tesla-model-s-plaid-off-its-playground-201739.html
"When Porsche launched the Taycan in 2019, few people imagined the rivalry between the Zuffenhausen electric racer and the sportier version of the Tesla Model S, named Plaid. Until then, nobody thought of Tesla as a sportscar maker, despite the Tesla roadster being at the company’s foundation. But Porsche entering the EV fray changed everything, and soon Tesla was caught testing the Model S Plaid on the Nürburgring.
The next couple of years brought a heated rivalry between the two companies on the famous racetrack in Germany. Porsche snatched the title for the fastest production electric vehicle on the Ring in 2019 when the Taycan Turbo lapped the 20.8-km northern loop in 7 minutes and 42 seconds. Then Tesla scored a victory in 2021 with the Model S Plaid, with 7 minutes and 36 seconds, before Porsche outdid it with the Taycan Turbo S, which set the 7:33.3 record that still stands today."
Etc.
"When Porsche launched the Taycan in 2019, few people imagined the rivalry between the Zuffenhausen electric racer and the sportier version of the Tesla Model S, named Plaid. Until then, nobody thought of Tesla as a sportscar maker, despite the Tesla roadster being at the company’s foundation. But Porsche entering the EV fray changed everything, and soon Tesla was caught testing the Model S Plaid on the Nürburgring.
The next couple of years brought a heated rivalry between the two companies on the famous racetrack in Germany. Porsche snatched the title for the fastest production electric vehicle on the Ring in 2019 when the Taycan Turbo lapped the 20.8-km northern loop in 7 minutes and 42 seconds. Then Tesla scored a victory in 2021 with the Model S Plaid, with 7 minutes and 36 seconds, before Porsche outdid it with the Taycan Turbo S, which set the 7:33.3 record that still stands today."
Etc.
KiwiRob
Autotechnik Ace
www.autoevolution.com/news/porsche-prepares-a-1000-hp-taycan-to-smash-the-tesla-model-s-plaid-off-its-playground-201739.html
"When Porsche launched the Taycan in 2019, few people imagined the rivalry between the Zuffenhausen electric racer and the sportier version of the Tesla Model S, named Plaid. Until then, nobody thought of Tesla as a sportscar maker, despite the Tesla roadster being at the company’s foundation. But Porsche entering the EV fray changed everything, and soon Tesla was caught testing the Model S Plaid on the Nürburgring.
The next couple of years brought a heated rivalry between the two companies on the famous racetrack in Germany. Porsche snatched the title for the fastest production electric vehicle on the Ring in 2019 when the Taycan Turbo lapped the 20.8-km northern loop in 7 minutes and 42 seconds. Then Tesla scored a victory in 2021 with the Model S Plaid, with 7 minutes and 36 seconds, before Porsche outdid it with the Taycan Turbo S, which set the 7:33.3 record that still stands today."
Etc.
I still don't believe anyone would be stupid enough to call Tesla a sportscar manufacturer.
Tourbillon
Cornering Kingpin
Until and or if the Roadster arrives perhaps by very strict definition of the terms yes. But other manufacturers have "sports" saloons or sedans so I guess they get a pass to the same criteria.
Although they do lack is competitive Motorsports "pedigree". To be honest it can tie you down as much as lift you up.
AndreB
Porsche Perfektionist
I think they weight the same but Lucid is S Class size inside and goes 200 km more... and their drive train is the most advanced.
Watch from minute 42 where they do a direct comparison between Plaid and Taycan motor.
CrunchSlaughtered
RPM Ruler
Totally wrong
Tourbillon
Cornering Kingpin
What's "totally wrong?".
Tourbillon
Cornering Kingpin
I've been following them a little and I know Lucid car owners on multi mediums. Some ex Tesla owners. And I know exactly what they think in comparison.
The range and I believe charging rates and the architecture (900V from memory) is magnitudes in order above.
CrunchSlaughtered
RPM Ruler
Anybody can claim anything. But the truth is that 'forwardism' equals R&D investments. There are no miracles. Tesla is 10 years ahead of its closest follower, concerning EV technology - electric motors, inverters, battery cells, management of all this, including production cost and time needed for production. Some may achieve a brakethrough in a single area but never in the whole product.
AndreB
Porsche Perfektionist
Fixed it if that was wrong, its 200km better range.
Let's see, the Lucid Air has 18% more battery capacity than the Tesla, but 28 % more range... is heavier than Model S Plaid but cabin space and quality is better... Rawlinson already displayed the tri-motor drivetrain that's faster than everything so where is the Tesla vastly superior? I'd say its price ratio.
Tesla is ahead of the rest in production efficiency and software because they've been doing this for 10 year.
Lucid or Rivian only got started and assembled in their little factory a great product.
I'm not a Tesla hater and IMO the Model Y is the best Tesla (and the best EV) not the Model S.
But let's get back to Porsche, I'm looking to see what they are capable of in terms of efficiency and software.
Tourbillon
Cornering Kingpin
Porsche Taycan Turbo S Evo Magazine Laptime
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AndreB
Porsche Perfektionist
That's too many sleepless nights, haha.
I'm planning to buy a used one but its hard to decide. Mind says 4S is good enough but heart wants Turbo.
4S: https://finder.porsche.com/de/de-DE/details/porsche-taycan-4s-gebraucht-5976N0 ... Turbo: https://finder.porsche.com/pl/pl-PL/details/porsche-taycan-turbo-nowy-J23VGK ... Turbo: https://www.autoscout24.com/offers/-62ac82e1-08bd-4845-95b9-4d99ee14eb12
Around town both drive pretty much the same but for "only" 20k more I can have something special and never look back.
What do you guys think?
Big Sam
Highway Hunter
I wouldn't get a Turbo. The 4S is already very fast. In fact, as a family car, I found the base Taycan already fast enough.
TopspeedPT
Track Technician
Tourbillon
Cornering Kingpin
KiwiRob
Autotechnik Ace
Whats even more impressive is about 5000 of them are in Norway.
klugscheisser87
Headlight Hero
The Golden Egg for Porsche.
The fully electric Macan was a very confident decision.
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