GT [Official] The all-new Mercedes-AMG GT Coupé

[Design FIRST]

A glowing review:

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[Pagani]

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Glowing in a backhanded way. Great separate qualities but the sum of the parts largely too much for real world. As they conclude, a normal 63 is likely way better.

I’ve been searching for a comparison of the E Performance vs the regular model and I can’t find any.

 

[Swissbob]

The main problem is the much smaller trunk.

Compared to the old one, this one is simply to heavy.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Glowing in a backhanded way. Great separate qualities but the sum of the parts largely too much for real world. As they conclude, a normal 63 is likely way better.

I’ve been searching for a comparison of the E Performance vs the regular model and I can’t find any.

The E performance mainly serves as bragging rights.
Its like the old 65 label minus that glorious V12. Way too much power and torque for anyone to really use. The V8s with more manageable torque and eventually AWD were always the more effective powerplants. But some people wanted the lairy RWD V12 with 1000Nm because why not.

 

[Swissbob]

The E performance mainly serves as bragging rights.
Its like the old 65 label minus that glorious V12. Way too much power and torque for anyone to really use. The V8s with more manageable torque and eventually AWD were always the more effective powerplants. But some people wanted the lairy RWD V12 with 1000Nm because why not.

I would still prefer a V12.

The engines are to different, I know the M275, it’s a completely different animal to the M177.

 

[sako97]

Has anyone driven the C190 and this C192 back-to-back? It seems the consensus is that the C192 is a nice looking and fast grand tourer, but nothing extraordinary to distinguish it’s from the competition.

I drove a AMG GTR a few years back and it’s one of the best sports car I’ve ever driven. The car was incredibly dynamic, steering feels near perfect, handled like a dart, and it felt so visceral and special. I felt like I got a good workout after the drive. It’s a shame how underrated it was compared to a 911 GT3.

I know it’s apples and oranges comparison, but this generation can get remotely close to be as good of a driver’s car. It‘s fundamentally compromised by its R232 SL chassis and weight.

The C190 was a compromised due to it’s SLS-derived chassis, when it came to ride quality and interior space, but the it felt special and different from the competition. They overcorrected/cost-cut this generation to make it a SL coupé with slightly improved dynamics, imo.

 

[Centurion]

C190 was a compromised due to it’s SLS-derived chassis, when it came to ride quality

On ride quality for sports and super cars, Mercedes is behind VAG, BMW and Porsche. AMG cars have historially either been too disconnected or too firm. They have rarely been "have your cake and eat it too". However the C192 appears to be a step forward.

 

[Swissbob]

Has anyone driven the C190 and this C192 back-to-back? It seems the consensus is that the C192 is a nice looking and fast grand tourer, but nothing extraordinary to distinguish it’s from the competition.

I drove a AMG GTR a few years back and it’s one of the best sports car I’ve ever driven. The car was incredibly dynamic, steering feels near perfect, handled like a dart, and it felt so visceral and special. I felt like I got a good workout after the drive. It’s a shame how underrated it was compared to a 911 GT3.

I know it’s apples and oranges comparison, but this generation can get remotely close to be as good of a driver’s car. It‘s fundamentally compromised by its R232 SL chassis and weight.

The C190 was a compromised due to it’s SLS-derived chassis, when it came to ride quality and interior space, but the it felt special and different from the competition. They overcorrected/cost-cut this generation to make it a SL coupé with slightly improved dynamics, imo.

Not yet, but I discussed the topic with my dealer.

The C192 is the best allrounder, like a 911 Turbo, surprisingly sporty, and still not to stiff.

The chassis has been improved compared to the R232, it’s much sportier.

Try to get your hands on the GT63 Pro C192 If you prefer sport.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

On ride quality for sports and super cars, Mercedes is behind VAG, BMW and Porsche. AMG cars have historially either been too disconnected or too firm. They have rarely been "have your cake and eat it too". However the C192 appears to be a step forward.

Has anyone driven the C190 and this C192 back-to-back? It seems the consensus is that the C192 is a nice looking and fast grand tourer, but nothing extraordinary to distinguish it’s from the competition.

I drove a AMG GTR a few years back and it’s one of the best sports car I’ve ever driven. The car was incredibly dynamic, steering feels near perfect, handled like a dart, and it felt so visceral and special. I felt like I got a good workout after the drive. It’s a shame how underrated it was compared to a 911 GT3.

I know it’s apples and oranges comparison, but this generation can get remotely close to be as good of a driver’s car. It‘s fundamentally compromised by its R232 SL chassis and weight.

The C190 was a compromised due to it’s SLS-derived chassis, when it came to ride quality and interior space, but the it felt special and different from the competition. They overcorrected/cost-cut this generation to make it a SL coupé with slightly improved dynamics, imo.

I've driven them, but not back to back.

On ride quality for sports and super cars, Mercedes is behind VAG, BMW and Porsche. AMG cars have historially either been too disconnected or too firm. They have rarely been "have your cake and eat it too". However the C192 appears to be a step forward.

Having driven the FL G63, AMG GT63 Coupe, C63s and E53, I believe Mercedes has made big strides with ride quality, but they do remain on the firmer side of damping and suspension control. They're never harsh or unpleasant, however pretty much all of the 'float' has been tuned out of the suspension. This may be why the S63 has been the subject of criticism, because they now ride like very well resolved sports cars.

The GT63 Coupes ride was notably more refined than my 911 GTS. Its like a blend between the GTS and my previous M4.

I actually think they finally deliver what AMG drivers want in terms of ride and handling. Its just a shame they don't offer high powered luxury variants like a C450 or E500, which would be better suited to some buyers.

 

[Swissbob]

They're never harsh or unpleasant, however pretty much all of the 'float' has been tuned out of the suspension. This may be why the S63 has been the subject of criticism, because they now ride like very well resolved sports cars.

I actually think they finally deliver what AMG drivers want in terms of ride and handling. Its just a shame they don't offer high powered luxury variants like a C450 or E500, which would be better suited to some buyers.

Even the S63 has got completely different wishbones and suspension bushings.

Which explains why it’s surprisingly stiff.

I fully agree with this sentence.
I think the SL680 is the first combination of SL63 engine and soft suspension.

 

[Merc1]

I've driven them, but not back to back.


Having driven the FL G63, AMG GT63 Coupe, C63s and E53, I believe Mercedes has made big strides with ride quality, but they do remain on the firmer side of damping and suspension control. They're never harsh or unpleasant, however pretty much all of the 'float' has been tuned out of the suspension. This may be why the S63 has been the subject of criticism, because they now ride like very well resolved sports cars.

The GT63 Coupes ride was notably more refined than my 911 GTS. Its like a blend between the GTS and my previous M4.

I actually think they finally deliver what AMG drivers want in terms of ride and handling. Its just a shame they don't offer high powered luxury variants like a C450 or E500, which would be better suited to some buyers.

People just didn’t buy the E500 or C450 like they do the new AMG lite models that have replaced them. They said the E450 is a near rocket considering its place in the lineup.

M

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

People just didn’t buy the E500 or C450 like they do the new AMG lite models that have replaced them. They said the E450 is a near rocket considering its place in the lineup.

M

As BMW used to do, I'm not sure if they still do, 'light' M variants had the option of a 'comfort' biased suspension set up. I think this would be a good strategy for Mercedes to offer on the 'light' AMG's.

 

[Swissbob]

As BMW used to do, I'm not sure if they still do, 'light' M variants had the option of a 'comfort' biased suspension set up. I think this would be a good strategy for Mercedes to offer on the 'light' AMG's.

I personally would even prefer this.

I don’t like to stiff suspensions, in fact the best suspension Mercedes Benz currently offers, is the E-ABC which even leans 3 degrees in the curves.

 

[J.E]

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

It's a beautiful piece of design I must say.
Especially in the dark red and blue metallics

 

[Centurion]

Those are my favorite AMG alloys. Makes any model look glam!

 

[Design FIRST]

It's a beautiful piece of design I must say.
Especially in the dark red and blue metallics

I'm hopng that M-B AMG can at least replicate the beauty of the AMG GT coupe in the form of the soon to be presented electric 4 door GT. Or better yet, perhaps even exceed it. The "halo" function of the electric 4 door GT is of great significance for the M-B and AMG brands in general.

 

[GTA45E]

Mercedes-Benz would roar back into the Indian high-performance car market with the highly-awaited debut of the AMG GT 63 and the AMG GT 63 Pro on June 27, 2025. Following a five-year absence, these slippery machines will offer the combination of daily practicality and scintillating track-day abilities.

The two models are powered by the mighty 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8. The GT 63 has a power output of 585 horsepower and 800 Nm of torque, acceleration of 0-100km/h in 3.2 seconds and a top speed of 315 km/h. The GT 63 Pro goes even a step further with 612 horsepower and 850 Nm of torque, performing just as quick in the 0-100 km/h sprint but needing 10.9 seconds to reach 0-200 km/h and has a top speed of 317 km/h.

Design meets functionally
The second-generation AMG GT cars are slightly enlarged and feature a 2+2 seat arrangement to create some practicality. Compared to their predecessors, they are 182 mm (7.17 in) longer, 45 mm (1.77 in) wider, 66 mm (2.60 in) taller, and have a 70 mm (2.76 in) longer wheelbase. The interior is luxurious but has the latest technology with a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster and an 11.9-inch portrait-oriented infotainment display.

The GT 63 Pro is set apart by improved aerodynamics, featuring a new front apron, active air control system and more underbody deflectors. These changes also decrease front lift by 30 kg and raise rear downforce by 15 kg, providing a better stability at high velocity. It also features bigger ceramic composite brakes, lightweight wheels and better tires with a better grip.

The two models come with 9-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission and Mercedes 4Matic+ all-wheel-drive system, which provides smooth power delivery and superior handling. The GT 63 Pro also features an improvement in engine cooling systems and placement of extra radiators in front of the front wheel arches.

These AMG GT models are set to compete against the Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS and will carry a price tag that will begin above 3 crore. They are the fourth and fifth launches of Mercedes-Benz India in 2025 as the company plans to launch eight new models in the current year as per their brand strategy.

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[Pagani]

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Haven't seen proper instrumented road tests of this heavy beast yet in the major legacy outlets.

 

[Jonathan19]

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