Thought you will still buy the car and then put CH inside the boot.
X5 M / X6 M [Official] The new BMW X5 M and X6 M
The X5 M is the high-performance variant of the X5. In April 2009, the X6 M version was announced, with a 408 kW (547 hp) version of the BMW S63 4.4-litre twin-turbo V8 engine. The BMW X5 M and X6 M are the first vehicles from BMW M GmbH to have xDrive all-wheel-drive system and automatic transmissions, and are also crossovers as opposed to passenger cars.
klier
Premium
So?
But never mind it, I am not going to ask three times.
Like @PanterroR, I couldn't care less about what he thinks of it.
Haha, I watch everything he publishes and still think he's becoming a loser. Afraid to give his honest opinion, making sure everybody is his friend and hail everything British.
In short, a shadow of his former self.
It's not too late yet though. C'mon Chris.
Harrismonkey posted that back in November, has a more 'expansive' review by him not appeared yet?
The X6M has done alright against it's competition in the reviews I've seen so far, so I'm guessing for him to compare it to Donkey-dump, he's probably falling back on the same old criticisms the X6 always receives, i.e. it's unconventional.
The X6M has done alright against it's competition in the reviews I've seen so far, so I'm guessing for him to compare it to Donkey-dump, he's probably falling back on the same old criticisms the X6 always receives, i.e. it's unconventional.
martinbo
Staff member
No klier, I don't agree with your side of the story on this one. You've misinterpreted Harris' post considerably taking into account your original question.
Harris' tweet is in no way ambiguous:
"For those of you who don't know of the wrongs made by the X6 here's an FYI - it's still a considerable amount of farm animal excrement."
So when Betty pointed out that the thinking in your original post was a tad imaginative, in a humorous way, you went all aggressive-defensive.
Harris' tweet is in no way ambiguous:
"For those of you who don't know of the wrongs made by the X6 here's an FYI - it's still a considerable amount of farm animal excrement."
So when Betty pointed out that the thinking in your original post was a tad imaginative, in a humorous way, you went all aggressive-defensive.
I'm sorry Klier, but this is so far from reality. If you HAD been "watching everything he publishes", on Twitter for example, you will realise he's been slagging off (for want of a better phrase), all things Porsche recently. That is completely the opposite to your assertions that he is afraid to give his honest opinion and "making sure everybody is happy".
Nail. Head. Hit. I do try to avoid getting into arguments with people most of the time, yet sometimes it's unavoidable.
Oh, and Harris was in Jo'burg earlier this week driving the facelifted 911 Turbo.
klier
Premium
martinbo
Staff member
Faaarrrk! I hate twitter so I didn't know! Would've loved to have had a beer with him. Shite.
Cashmere
RPM Ruler
PanterroR
Lap Time Luminary
He didn't say anything about X5M
X6 M is my next car.
For such cases i use my Lada Niva...
nikola1984
Kraftkurve King
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
He's a cool guy. I spoke to him a few years ago when I worked at Yo Sushi while at Uni!
nikola1984
Kraftkurve King
Rainer271
Kraftwagen König
Published on an other BMW site:
My 2016 X5M Track Day videos, times and impressions
Yup, I took mine on the track. I gotta tell you its a hoot when you pull up to tech and people either go
or
I just had my break in oil change a week earlier so its a very new car lol. I am an instructor with the BMW club and a few others but this is my first time in an SUV. This was the last of the cars in my profile to track since all the others had been on track at some point(videos on my YouTube channel).
IMPRESSIONS
Acceleration: We all know what its like to 60, however it was a bit slower beyond the 90 MPH range than cars with similar 0-60 times. My Lamborghini which is actually a hair slower to 60 hits 12 MPH faster on the front and back straights. The X5M is very stable at speed and really powers out of corners like you wouldn't believe.
Braking: I tried not to push the brakes to hard since the vehicle is so big and the larger the vehicle the scarier it is to push the limits on brakes when heading towards a wall. Overall they stop VERY smoothly. I had no brake fade but also didn't complete any of the 25 minute sessions as i was scared about them fading on me while driving. I would never have expected the brakes to be so good for such a big car doing 126 MPH down a straight into a haripin right at 40 MPH.
Cornering: While the telemetry is upside down we were able to hit a sustained 1.0G's in the corners and that might even be a bit low since my display is not as stable as it should be so that might cushion a bit of the data. My passenger guessed 1.1 G's before we looked at the data. Car is flat in the corners for an SUV but initial dive into a corner is insane for this big of a rig. Every passenger I took (and there was a line to go for a ride in the SUV lol) said they had never seen an SUV go in any of those directions that fast.
Comfort: Ummm this should be self explanatory but its by far the most comfortable track car I have ever driven and my passengers kept commenting on their comfort as well.
Comparison: Below is a hot Lap video of a 1:33.1 around PIR. For comparison, my stock 05 Lamborghini Gallardo does a 1:31.0 and my track prepped Lotus with slicks would do a 1:29.5 and without slicks would be around 1:33 to 1:34. My 07 Aston Martin V8 Vantage does exactly a 1:33.1 also.
My 2016 X5M Track Day videos, times and impressions
Yup, I took mine on the track. I gotta tell you its a hoot when you pull up to tech and people either go
I just had my break in oil change a week earlier so its a very new car lol. I am an instructor with the BMW club and a few others but this is my first time in an SUV. This was the last of the cars in my profile to track since all the others had been on track at some point(videos on my YouTube channel).
IMPRESSIONS
Acceleration: We all know what its like to 60, however it was a bit slower beyond the 90 MPH range than cars with similar 0-60 times. My Lamborghini which is actually a hair slower to 60 hits 12 MPH faster on the front and back straights. The X5M is very stable at speed and really powers out of corners like you wouldn't believe.
Braking: I tried not to push the brakes to hard since the vehicle is so big and the larger the vehicle the scarier it is to push the limits on brakes when heading towards a wall. Overall they stop VERY smoothly. I had no brake fade but also didn't complete any of the 25 minute sessions as i was scared about them fading on me while driving. I would never have expected the brakes to be so good for such a big car doing 126 MPH down a straight into a haripin right at 40 MPH.
Cornering: While the telemetry is upside down we were able to hit a sustained 1.0G's in the corners and that might even be a bit low since my display is not as stable as it should be so that might cushion a bit of the data. My passenger guessed 1.1 G's before we looked at the data. Car is flat in the corners for an SUV but initial dive into a corner is insane for this big of a rig. Every passenger I took (and there was a line to go for a ride in the SUV lol) said they had never seen an SUV go in any of those directions that fast.
Comfort: Ummm this should be self explanatory but its by far the most comfortable track car I have ever driven and my passengers kept commenting on their comfort as well.
Comparison: Below is a hot Lap video of a 1:33.1 around PIR. For comparison, my stock 05 Lamborghini Gallardo does a 1:31.0 and my track prepped Lotus with slicks would do a 1:29.5 and without slicks would be around 1:33 to 1:34. My 07 Aston Martin V8 Vantage does exactly a 1:33.1 also.
Just saw the first page of this thread by accident, and noticed the first line from the press release. What utter BS. How BMW can get away with peddling this crap is beyond me. The X5 M and X6 M do not have anything close to what could be described as "exceptionally fuel efficiency", unless they mean "exceptionally poor"? This shouldn't be allowed and be against trade descriptions acts.
It's no different to a food company saying their new doughnuts are exceptionally low in fat. There are strict rules on what you can put on packaging, and there has to be a maximum fat content to be able to say something is "low in fat". This should be the case with press releases like this, which don't just massage the truth, but out and out lie.
Giannis
Staff member
It's not just BMW mate, it's everyone!
Press releases are unreadable lately. They contain pages after pages of marketing nonsense and virtually zero details on the engineering of the interesting stuff. Only Audi's press releases seem to have a bit of information about their latest technology offerings, but no specific details.
At least Audi offers brilliant technical images that make up for the lack of proper text.
Rainer271
Kraftwagen König
BMW unveils new X5 M and X6 M Black Fire Editions
BMW has released new Black Fire special editions of their X5 M and X6 M high-performance crossovers.
Set to go on sale in Germany this August, the special editions have a monotone appearance thanks to Sapphire Black Metallic exterior, a blacked out grille, and 21-inch forged alloy wheels with a black finish. Other highlights include carbon mirror caps and BMW M compound brakes with blue calipers.
The unique styling continues as the cabin as designers installed black Merino leather upholstery with contrasting Mugello Red leather accents. The crossovers also have piano black trim, Black Fire badging, and an anthracite headliner from BMW Individual.
Drivers will also find red contrast stitching and a leather-wrapped M steering wheel. The latter item can be replaced by a BMW M Performance Alcantara-wrapped steering wheel with light-blue leather accents for no additional charge.
Both models are powered by a familiar a 4.4-liter M TwinPower V8 engine which produces 575 PS (423 kW) and 750 Nm (553 lb-ft) of torque. The engine is paired to an eight-speed automatic transmission and a rear-biased four-wheel drive system. This setup enables the crossovers to rocket from 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) in 4.2 seconds.
Source: Carscoops
BMW has released new Black Fire special editions of their X5 M and X6 M high-performance crossovers.
Set to go on sale in Germany this August, the special editions have a monotone appearance thanks to Sapphire Black Metallic exterior, a blacked out grille, and 21-inch forged alloy wheels with a black finish. Other highlights include carbon mirror caps and BMW M compound brakes with blue calipers.
The unique styling continues as the cabin as designers installed black Merino leather upholstery with contrasting Mugello Red leather accents. The crossovers also have piano black trim, Black Fire badging, and an anthracite headliner from BMW Individual.
Drivers will also find red contrast stitching and a leather-wrapped M steering wheel. The latter item can be replaced by a BMW M Performance Alcantara-wrapped steering wheel with light-blue leather accents for no additional charge.
Both models are powered by a familiar a 4.4-liter M TwinPower V8 engine which produces 575 PS (423 kW) and 750 Nm (553 lb-ft) of torque. The engine is paired to an eight-speed automatic transmission and a rear-biased four-wheel drive system. This setup enables the crossovers to rocket from 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) in 4.2 seconds.
Source: Carscoops
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BMW M
BMW M GmbH, formerly known as BMW Motorsport GmbH, is a subsidiary of
BMW AG that manufactures high-performance luxury cars. BMW M ("M" for "motorsport")
was initially created to facilitate BMW's racing program, which was very successful
in the 1960s and 1970s. As time passed, BMW M began to supplement BMW's vehicle
portfolio with specially modified higher trim models, for which they are now most
known by the general public. These M-badged cars traditionally include modified engines,
transmissions, suspensions, interior trims, aerodynamics, and exterior modifications
to set them apart from their counterparts. All M models are tested and tuned at BMW's
private facility at the Nürburgring racing circuit in Germany.
Official website: BMW M
Official website: BMW M
