klier
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LOL how would that cut costs? It would mean additional cars which would complicate things further.
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The Porsche Cayenne is a series of automobiles manufactured by Porsche since 2002. It is a luxury crossover SUV, and has been described as both a full-sized and a mid-sized vehicle.
LOL how would that cut costs? It would mean additional cars which would complicate things further.
Sunny
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I don't know where you got the numbers from. The 5 series sales in US is down ~25% in Q2 2025 (~10% in H1). And i5 specifically is down 40%!
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I don't want to side track this thread discussing 5er sales. The larger point is, the suggestion that making more ICE models will somehow magically fix the issue the German car industry is facing in China is asinine. If anyone feel otherwise, I am all ears for a logical explanation.
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That would be imagined foresight while focusing on a rearview mirror.
There's a lot of that going on nowadays. Not only in automotives.
Jonathan19
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leylandi
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Looks like EQE isn't the only one losingI don't know where you got the numbers from. The 5 series sales in US is down ~25% in Q2 2025 (~10% in H1). And i5 specifically is down 40%!
Source
I don't want to side track this thread discussing 5er sales. The larger point is, the suggestion that making more ICE models will somehow magically fix the issue the German car industry is facing in China is asinine. If anyone feel otherwise, I am all ears for a logical explanation.
klier
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11 kW
So instead of going from 10% to 80% in like 10 minutes on a fast charger, it will take like 8 hours on the pad. I guess that's ok for overnight charging....
Sunny
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11kw is same as a level 2 home charger, which is the application this seems to be targeting, not DC fast charging.
Sunny
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Why did they decide it is "nonsense"?
Sunny
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"was" being the keyword.
Things have come far since BMW/Mercedes tried it, when the speeds were a measly 3.6kw. Efficiency is not that far off level 2 chargers either - ~88-92% for J2954 vs 92-95% for J1772 (level 2). Efficiency also largely depends on the distance (d^3), so getting close helps (something Cayenne EV air suspension can do).
Having said that, frankly, I don't see the point either. Plugging in at home is not an arduous/dirty task, like say... having to drive all the way to gas station and grab a grubby public nozzle to fill up. But I said the same about phone chargers, and now I almost never plug my phone in, so...
klier
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Like clockwork lol
But seriously, wireless over some cable anyway of the week for me if I could choose. It's fine for overnight charging.
Sunny
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Was in jest, but not without merit
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The Average Steering Wheel Is 4 Times Filthier Than a Public Toilet Seat: Study
That pump handle at the gas station, meanwhile, is almost 12,000 times dirtier than the typical porcelain throne.
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klier
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Was in jest, but not without merit
The Average Steering Wheel Is 4 Times Filthier Than a Public Toilet Seat: Study
That pump handle at the gas station, meanwhile, is almost 12,000 times dirtier than the typical porcelain throne.
Damn.....
I am going to take a shower, brb
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