Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?


It all makes much sense. As normal looking, more advanced EVs start being available, the older, turd-looking ones are phased out.

I bet MB would like to do the same with the EQS range.

Yes, this decision would have seemed inevitable. There is really little if any reason to flog the the dead horse that the EQE series (as well as EQS series) has become. The new electric E and S Class vehicles cannot come soon enough. And the announced convergence of BEV and ICE design, in favour of "ICE silhouettes", appears a strategy that could finally pay dividends for a currently reeling M-B. Should they also get the material/fit and finish qualities of their interiors back on par, M-B should be just fine.
 
Maybe Serpens, klier or other members who are familiar with ICE technology can comment on that articel?


Installing a BMW 4-cylinder engine in the inventor of the automobile? So far, Mercedes engines have caused a sensation (in a positive sense) in long-term tests (C 180 W204) at around 600,000 km and the A-Class W176 at around 400,000 km. There has been no such test with a BMW.

The question that arises is the actual reason. At Mercedes, all engines are currently brand new (except for the new V8 coming soon).

The M252 was developed by Mercedes and is produced by Aurobay in China. It is used in all MMA hybrid derivatives and is said to be so efficient that customers in the MMA models (CLA, GLA, GLB) will not miss diesel (according to Mercedes-Benz).

The M254 4-cylinder gasoline engine for the C-Class, E-Class, GLC, and GLE (in America and China) dates from 2020. It has therefore only been on the market for five years.

The OM654 was introduced with the W213 in 2016 and was fundamentally redesigned (OM654M) with the introduction of the new C-Class W206 in 2021.

The M256M and OM656M R6 gasoline and diesel engines are also top-of-the-line (state-of-the-art) power units.

From a technical point of view, it is therefore surprising to switch to a BMW engine. The Mercedes engines have been developed, and the development costs have probably not yet been completely written off. What would be the advantage?

The situation is different at BMW. Their gasoline 4-cylinder B48 engine dates back to 2014, making it significantly older than Mercedes' engine. BMW has always stated that it intends to develop a new engine family because it wants to continue using combustion engines. The question is whether this is a nice story or whether they were required by law to develop a new family, as the B48, which is over 10 years old, might not have easily met the EU7 standard.

On the other hand, BMW is set to introduce prechamber ignition in its new generation of engines. Mercedes has been familiar with this technology for a long time (since 2014), but only in its highly successful Formula 1 engines. There, it has helped the team win numerous world championship titles. While other manufacturers had to lift and coast, Mercedes drivers were able to stay on the gas and fully exploit the power, as the maximum fuel limit was 100 kg per race (efficient and powerful engines therefore had advantages).

Mercedes not only wants to source BMW's 4-cylinder engines from the Steyr plant in Austria, but also to build a joint engine plant in the US. In Tuscaloosa, GLC models will be manufactured alongside the GLS and GLE from 2027 with the GLC facelift. This means that one of the main engines will be the 4-cylinder gasoline engine (it is also sold in the US in the GLE 350). BMW also produces the X3, X5, and X7 in the US. Not only are cars exported to the US subject to 15% punitive tariffs, but so are parts delivered there (in this case, powertrains). Mercedes already had a cooperation with Nissan/Infiniti here. The M264 for Tuscaloosa was produced in their engine plant there.

The basic idea behind sharing fixed costs is easy to understand. But Mercedes actually spent these fixed costs (development costs for the brand-new Fame engine family) just a few years ago. Therefore, this step does not make sense at the current stage of the lifecycle for the current engines.

The cooperation between Mercedes and BMW is to be announced in the next 8 weeks (if the talks are successful). Normally, the IAA is always a good place to make such announcements.

Although we are not speaking about the same engine, the N47 diesel in my F10 is well over 400K Km. It's been serviced in time only at BMW Service, and still goes very nice and well.
 
Inspiration for a future bespoke M-B Mythos automobile ?:

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YES! More AI crap! Thanks for posting.

You're most welcome.

By the way, what is the seemingly prolific beef with AI generated automotive images ? Make no mistake, there is no replacement for pure human artistic and creative talent. The ability to freehand 3 dimensional sketches is a genuine gift that deserves highest praise. But not all (including myself) are even remotely capable of doing this, yet creative ideas, although sometimes derivative, can still flourish in the minds and spirits of those who are not handcrafts persons. And considering that AI is becoming an ever more significant element in so many processes, why not take advantage of what it has to offer ? Even "ancients" like me can appreciate it.
 
Speaking about the EQE/EQE SUV, they're killing these models after barely four years on the market (until 2026). They haven't even managed to reach their FL, astonishing.

The C and GLC EVs were supposed to add models, but instead they'll be without EVs in the mid-range segment for a whole year in the case of the sedan (until the E-Class EV arrives), and who knows how long in the case of the SUV.

Less than 10 days ago I read that Ola indicated they would update the EQE to 800v with the new platform, etc., and 20 minutes later they cancel the car and the SUV entirely. The bad news must be enormous to act so vehemently improvised. It's not even serious anymore.

Are there examples of models of any brand canceled mid-cycle due to selling so poorly?
 
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Seems like the new front end that MB will spread across the entire line up is not compatible with the inverted grille of the current GLE AMG.

A pitty, I do like the current car...
 
Layout seems to be the same as the C-Class and GLC one. Considering the GLC EV is around the corner, I would say this is its new interior.

Maybe the angle of the shot being deceiving... But the apparent rake of the A-pillars could indicate the upcoming C-Class "EQ Technology" sedan.
 

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