M3/M4 [Official] 2021 BMW M3 and M4 [G80 & G82]


The BMW M3 is a high-performance version of the BMW 3 Series, developed by BMW's in-house motorsport division, BMW M GmbH. M3 models have been produced for every generation of 3 Series since the E30 M3 was introduced in 1986. The BMW M4 is a high-performance version of the BMW 4 Series automobile developed by BMW's motorsport division, BMW M, that has been built since 2014. As part of the renumbering that splits the coupé and convertible variants of the 3 Series into the 4 Series, the M4 replaced those variants of the BMW M3.

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Cup 2 R is about an 8-10 sec drop compared to Cup 2 on the ring. An M3CS would then do about the same time as the CSL(both cars on the same tire). Even a regular M3/4 Comp. xDrive wouldn't be far off on Cup 2 R.
I'd save myself the money and just stick to the M3/4 Comp. xDrive and go the KW V4 / Cup 2 R route if I'm tracking the car often. It'd be quicker than the CSL at a MUCH lower cost and I'll have usable rear seats.
 

"WHAT'S THE VERDICT?

“This one’s a belter. No other sports or super-saloon is as capable, grippy, tied down, responsive or communicative”

This one’s a belter. No other sports or super-saloon is as capable, grippy, tied down, responsive or communicative on a difficult road. Yes, it's heavier than before. No, it’s not an issue. At all. In its ability to deliver speed and composure it’s a huge step on from before and has perhaps the best chassis of any contemporary M3 since the E46 twenty years ago.

If there’s a downside it’s that the engine now plays second fiddle to the chassis. In the past engines have been at the core of the M3’s appeal, but this latest one, although fearsomely potent, is less exciting to actually use – not least because it delivers torque with such ruthless efficiency you always need to have one eye on the speedo.

The main part of the blame can probably be laid at the doors of the perfectly competent but otherwise unremarkable automatic gearbox. It would only have limited appeal, but we reckon the standard 473bhp M3’s manual gearbox would help to bring the powertrain to life. But sadly that’s not coming to the UK.

Us? We’d pay the extra for an xDrive and treat this heavier new M3 as a compact M5. That’s the sort of car it is. And obviously we’d have the Touring estate body, because there are no real drawbacks and it’s more useful, so easier to sell into the family. And no, now we’ve driven it, the nostrils – ungainly through they still are – wouldn’t put us off for a minute."
 

"After the M2 and M5 CS, last year’s M4 CSL promised ultimate greatness but failed to live up to the sum of its parts, its changes injecting compromise rather than engagement and thrills. The M3 CS is the polar opposite, with an approach that, like those other recent CS transformations, results in one of the most resolved and exciting cars of its type. The M3 Competition is hard to knock. It sits among the very best in its class, and many will be thinking the £32,000 premium the CS commands is hard to comprehend (which we get). But if you can and have gone for an M3 CS you’ve picked one of the all-time greats. Roll on eCoty?"

- Stuart Gallagher for evo UK.

NB: evo triple-test of the M3 CS, Alfa GTAm and Jag SV Project 8 loading in an upcoming magazine issue.
 
Another M4 CSL Crash :(

At BMW say that there will be a recall of the M4 CSL,...the drivers will be changed

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Despite his eagerness and excitement around a quad-motor M car, Weber said petrol-powered vehicles would still play a big role in the German brand’s future and that goes for the BMW M3.
So customers who want the sound, involvement and soul of a combustion engine will still be able to get just that. Rather than replace the petrol-powered M3, the first electric M3 would augment the traditional M3 model range.
At present, the BMW M3 CS packs the biggest wallop from its 405kW/650Nm S58 3.0-litre six-cylinder turbo-petrol engine (codenamed S58) and Weber confirmed both fully-electric and ICE versions of the BMW M3 will share the limelight.

“It’s a nice engine, we will certainly make this Euro 7-capable and other things, so it’s going to happen. We will not have two different classes – there will be co-existence of the solutions in the market, which is necessary,” Weber said.

So it looks like we will have seperate BEV Neue Klasse M3 and an ICE CLAR M3? Good news if true.
 
Again, as it stands today, and based on what we hear, there is no new CLAR M3. They will extend the life of the current one by having a facelift next year. And then keep in production until late 26 or early 27.

But Weber says this:

We will not have two different classes – there will be co-existence of the solutions in the market, which is necessary,”
So customers who want the sound, involvement and soul of a combustion engine will still be able to get just that. Rather than replace the petrol-powered M3, the first electric M3 would augment the traditional M3 model range.

Which I assume would mean a much longer life for the G80 than late '26 because I do not expected an NK M3 before that.

To be honest, and I am not blaming you @bmwblog, it's all rather contradictory and vague. But unprecedented things are happening so yeah...
 
But Weber says this:




Which I assume would mean a much longer life for the G80 than late '26 because I do not expected an NK M3 before that.

To be honest, and I am not blaming you @bmwblog, it's all rather contradictory and vague. But unprecedented things are happening so yeah...
Never know how media interpreted his words. I've been in interviews where a BMW guy says one thing, media hears something else. It happens a lot with Australian media :)
 
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48psi? Jesus Christ there's no way it can do prolonged hits at those levels? Can it? I'll look at it but that's around if not more than Bugatti Veyron Super Sport levels of power!
 
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BMW M

BMW M GmbH, formerly known as BMW Motorsport GmbH, is a subsidiary of BMW AG that manufactures high-performance luxury cars. BMW M ("M" for "motorsport") was initially created to facilitate BMW's racing program, which was very successful in the 1960s and 1970s. As time passed, BMW M began to supplement BMW's vehicle portfolio with specially modified higher trim models, for which they are now most known by the general public. These M-badged cars traditionally include modified engines, transmissions, suspensions, interior trims, aerodynamics, and exterior modifications to set them apart from their counterparts. All M models are tested and tuned at BMW's private facility at the Nürburgring racing circuit in Germany.

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