M3/M4 [Official] 2021 BMW M3 and M4 [G80 & G82]
The BMW M3 is a high-performance version of the BMW 3 Series, developed by BMW's in-house motorsport division, BMW M GmbH. M3 models have been produced for every generation of 3 Series since the E30 M3 was introduced in 1986.
The BMW M4 is a high-performance version of the BMW 4 Series automobile developed by BMW's motorsport division, BMW M, that has been built since 2014. As part of the renumbering that splits the coupé and convertible variants of the 3 Series into the 4 Series, the M4 replaced those variants of the BMW M3.
Tourbillon
Cornering Kingpin
Tourbillon
Cornering Kingpin
Wouldn't you literally consider half of that tax?
klier
Premium
I suppose so....
People who are not rich are forced to buy junk over here. An M3 is out of the question for normal guys who make normal money.
Jonathan19
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AbsoluteUnit
Kraftkurve King
We are going to start reaching a point where super sedan's and the like are basically unusable at more than 6-7 tenths on roads.
You could argue the last generation M5, E63 and RS6 were already at that point. But look now at the Tesla Plaid, Lucid Sapphire, and how on earth can you enjoy driving those cars at the limit on a road?
Really something with the power of the current M3 or previous C63 are probably at the limit of what you can enjoy on a public road anywhere near the limit.
You could argue the last generation M5, E63 and RS6 were already at that point. But look now at the Tesla Plaid, Lucid Sapphire, and how on earth can you enjoy driving those cars at the limit on a road?
Really something with the power of the current M3 or previous C63 are probably at the limit of what you can enjoy on a public road anywhere near the limit.
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
You don’t even have to choose between either for live. Buy the M3. Once you have scratched the M itch and tasted the sharp steering and pointy front-end, buy the Alpina or M340i.
Frankie G
Premium
BMW M3 Touring v Audi RS4 Competition – hardcore estates go head-to-head
First the RS6 and inevitably the fettled RS4 Competition, which received high praise here.
"In sodden conditions the RS4 Competition is as assured as expected. Perhaps more so. Where the standard car’s rear Sport differential seems to have a slightly artificial and abrupt actuation – working well to pin the front tyres to the road but then creating a whip of sudden oversteer on corner exit – the Competition just feels hooked-up, very neutral and with supreme traction. Perhaps you don’t get the spikes of adrenaline, but it’s really satisfying to build up a natural rhythm and realise that very few cars could even hope to keep up and fewer still with such precise composure. The Corsa tyres might not be ideal for streaming roads but you’d never know it. The treadblocks squeeze through the water and find incredible purchase."
"Perhaps this outcome was inevitable. Audi has done a fantastic job of creating a supple, precise performance estate with real poise and quite staggering composure, but the RS4 Competition is built upon a platform that simply isn’t as versatile and inherently athletic as the BMW’s."
- Jethro Bovingdon for evo UK, issue 314.
For track reference: Sport Auto Supertest Nurburgring Nordschleife:
Audi RS4 Competition Plus: 7.39,35
BMW M3 Competition Touring: 7.34,39
First the RS6 and inevitably the fettled RS4 Competition, which received high praise here.
"In sodden conditions the RS4 Competition is as assured as expected. Perhaps more so. Where the standard car’s rear Sport differential seems to have a slightly artificial and abrupt actuation – working well to pin the front tyres to the road but then creating a whip of sudden oversteer on corner exit – the Competition just feels hooked-up, very neutral and with supreme traction. Perhaps you don’t get the spikes of adrenaline, but it’s really satisfying to build up a natural rhythm and realise that very few cars could even hope to keep up and fewer still with such precise composure. The Corsa tyres might not be ideal for streaming roads but you’d never know it. The treadblocks squeeze through the water and find incredible purchase."
"Perhaps this outcome was inevitable. Audi has done a fantastic job of creating a supple, precise performance estate with real poise and quite staggering composure, but the RS4 Competition is built upon a platform that simply isn’t as versatile and inherently athletic as the BMW’s."
- Jethro Bovingdon for evo UK, issue 314.
For track reference: Sport Auto Supertest Nurburgring Nordschleife:
Audi RS4 Competition Plus: 7.39,35
BMW M3 Competition Touring: 7.34,39
klier
Premium
You can't go back after the M. Both are downgrades, but the M340 is a very severe one.
AbsoluteUnit
Kraftkurve King
I suppose if you really are dedicated you could do a front face swap with the M340i on your M3 Touring.
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
I agree. With sports instead of bucket seats, the trade off in comfort vs th M340i is small.
Frankie G
Premium
Won't that void the warranty?
AbsoluteUnit
Kraftkurve King
Almost certainly
But if you can afford to do a face transplant on a performance car, I'm sure you can afford to not have a warranty.
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