F1 Formula 1 - 2024 Season
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Sunny
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I started watching F1 in 95 ( I was following it before that through newspapers!!). I was a big Hill fan back then when he was battling Schumacher cause I always like underdogs and Schumi played dirty.
Can't say I will miss his commentary though. But that goes for almost all of the Sky sports ones except for Karun Chandok.
Can't say I will miss his commentary though. But that goes for almost all of the Sky sports ones except for Karun Chandok.
Meh, I met Damon Hill once... he wasn't that interesting...
I asked on why he was in the crowd at a BARC owned circuit (versus at the time either an MSV circuit or BRDC Silverstone), and he basically f#cked off. I mean, he was polite, but of all the racing driver interactions I've had, he's bottom quartile...
Shit Ice Cream too.. get a Calipo or a Feast.
I asked on why he was in the crowd at a BARC owned circuit (versus at the time either an MSV circuit or BRDC Silverstone), and he basically f#cked off. I mean, he was polite, but of all the racing driver interactions I've had, he's bottom quartile...
Shit Ice Cream too.. get a Calipo or a Feast.
Sunny
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It is just wonderful how unpredictable F1 has become this season. Any of the drivers in the 4 top teams (minus Perez of course) have a shot. Last time it was this unpredictable was the 2010 season. Sucks that the rules will change in 2026 and chances are one team or another will dominate again for a while. Now the teams have converged, I wish they would just let current rules continue for a while.
TopspeedPT
Track Technician
Mercedes were fast today. Great recovery by Hamilton from P10 to P2. In the end it was good that he messed up in Q3 otherwise the race would have been boring to watch.
McLaren are a bunch of amateurs. They will lose the constructor's championship.
Another cardboard trophy to the FIA's golden boy. Those several illegal car parts in his car this year did the job. #WeRaceForMoney
McLaren are a bunch of amateurs. They will lose the constructor's championship.
Another cardboard trophy to the FIA's golden boy. Those several illegal car parts in his car this year did the job. #WeRaceForMoney
Mars1965
Premium
Pathetic.
Sunny
Premium
The only car that was actually disqualified this season for being illegal was a Mercedes - Russel's car at Spa. The only team that had to remove a part for being illegal was McLaren - their Baku flexi wing.
I sort of feel sad for you, we had the most competitive F1 season in a long while and instead of being able to enjoy it, you are bitter about it. And for no good reason other than the blue whale dick sized bias you built up inside your own head, and now you are a slave to it and have to stroke it after every race weekend.
SKY
Kraftwagen König
It’s going to be tough for Max haters. There is no other talent on F1 that seems capable to compete with his. And the guy still has some 15 good years ahead.
Not sure the future of RB is equally bright, though.
TopspeedPT
Track Technician
Most of Max's fans i've known never seen F1 before DTS. Too bad that they missed alot of good drivers from the past/present.
Max is not as special as you may think. Half of the grid could win the championship easily if they had the best car.
Red Bull only works for one side of the garage. Perez has the left over parts and engineers that's why he is 1second slower in qualifying, misses Q2/Q3 and has no pace during the race.
Current F1 drivers disagree with you.
18:30+
Seriously, have you ever been in a racetrack or compete in any kind of motorsport? The car is worth like 95%. Every racing driver knows it, that's why they want to fight to have a seat in the best team which has the best car. The odds of winning races will be far higher.
Nobody would win the championship in a current Williams or Kick Sauber.
Verstappen was top5+ in several races when his car wasn't the best after they removed the illegal active suspension, illegal braking system and illegal front bib parc fermé trick. What a surprise
What he did right this season was maximizing in all races when the car wasn't the best. That comes from experience from fighting for championships years before and being in F1 for over 9 years.
Max is not as special as you may think. Half of the grid could win the championship easily if they had the best car.
Red Bull only works for one side of the garage. Perez has the left over parts and engineers that's why he is 1second slower in qualifying, misses Q2/Q3 and has no pace during the race.
Current F1 drivers disagree with you.
18:30+
Seriously, have you ever been in a racetrack or compete in any kind of motorsport? The car is worth like 95%. Every racing driver knows it, that's why they want to fight to have a seat in the best team which has the best car. The odds of winning races will be far higher.
Nobody would win the championship in a current Williams or Kick Sauber.
Verstappen was top5+ in several races when his car wasn't the best after they removed the illegal active suspension, illegal braking system and illegal front bib parc fermé trick. What a surprise
What he did right this season was maximizing in all races when the car wasn't the best. That comes from experience from fighting for championships years before and being in F1 for over 9 years.
Yes and no.
F1 makes a choice to not use performance equalisation, yet it (arguably) promotes driver success over car success. That's relatively unique to F1... most sensible racing series have some kind of performance balancing which allows the great drivers to shine... F1 doesn't.
That being the case, it is generally the better drivers that get to pilot the better cars, but I've been saying for years, or decades at this point, that it's mostly the car the achieves the greatness, yet for a long time I was assured by Hamilton fans (currently asserting that this is only Max's 3rd championship), that this is not that case...
... so, who to believe? Common sense, or partisan driver stans?
I really hope he does. Well, actually not WEC, but different stuff. If there was still a proper World Touring Car championship I think he'd be great, failing that, I'd ****ing love to see him in NASCAR, any series that rewards 'getting-your-elbows-out' but penalises it just as harshly.
Anyway.. congrats to Max. I don't think Red Bull will have the car at all next year, and I'm stating for the record now, I hope Hamilton leads a bit of a Ferrari Renaissance next year -- I don't like him, or the Tifosi, but it would be a fantastic story.
TopspeedPT
Track Technician
You don't like Hamilton, I get it.
So you agree with me, Hamilton, Russell and Sainz comments. They would win the championship in the same car Verstappen had.
That's how motorsport works. Who believes in driver superpowers is delusional and never been in racetrack. The driver can't extract more performance than what the car allows. Tire management is key tough and many of them are great at it.
Sunny
Premium
With last year's RB19, sure. But this year, Max didn't have the best car for most of this year, yet he won. And Lando did and yet he couldn't. As for Hamilton, I doubt it, given he couldn't even beat his own teammate this year. Same for Sainz. Maybe Russell or Leclerc could.
But no one here is saying that. You are just charging full tilt at straw men here. The car is a large factor in F1. Max is not going to win with a Sauber or a Williams. All a driver can do is maximize the results the car is capable of and maybe a bit more, especially when conditions are tricky. Max did that this year, while most other driver's did not. If you had the brains to acknowledge that, you would enjoy a wonderful competitive season instead of being so f#cking bitter about it all the time.
ps. I like how you include your dick brained opinion along with Hamilton, Russell and Sainz's. Talk about delusion.
Mars1965
Premium
The opinion of some guys that know less about driving F1 this season than TopspeedPT thinks he knows:
“Congratulations must go to Max too who claimed the title today. He’s done a fantastic job all year and is a deserving champion,” said Lewis Hamilton
“He is a deserving champion, has driven at an incredible level all year, and is the man we will all be chasing in 2025,” added George Russell
"Big congratulations to Max. He deserves this championship title, he has had an amazing season and always maximised his results which has paid off for him. It gives us motivation to be even stronger next year and hopefully we can put him under some more pressure then,” said Charles Leclerc
“I think he’s driven for years now at an incredibly high level, and I think this year he has dominated whenever he had a dominant car and then he didn’t do mistakes and maximised the points that he could get with less performing car, just did whatever he had to do in every race, so congrats, he clearly deserves it,” added Carlos Sainz
Source: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...ers-pay-tribute-to-the.1ME3INu5Lu9M7h5DokfX0v
“Congratulations must go to Max too who claimed the title today. He’s done a fantastic job all year and is a deserving champion,” said Lewis Hamilton
“He is a deserving champion, has driven at an incredible level all year, and is the man we will all be chasing in 2025,” added George Russell
"Big congratulations to Max. He deserves this championship title, he has had an amazing season and always maximised his results which has paid off for him. It gives us motivation to be even stronger next year and hopefully we can put him under some more pressure then,” said Charles Leclerc
“I think he’s driven for years now at an incredibly high level, and I think this year he has dominated whenever he had a dominant car and then he didn’t do mistakes and maximised the points that he could get with less performing car, just did whatever he had to do in every race, so congrats, he clearly deserves it,” added Carlos Sainz
Source: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...ers-pay-tribute-to-the.1ME3INu5Lu9M7h5DokfX0v
Big Sam
Highway Hunter
I don't see it as "hate".
Max is clearly a fantastic talent, and he deserves to be a multiple World Champion. But what criticism he *does* get is justified, IMHO. Like a lot of sports stars* who seem able to achieve a level that little bit higher than their competitors, he is also flawed. Often, the personality traits that are needed to attain greatness, can frequently result in vulnerabilities.
kiki voinea
Stuttgart Specialist
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