I-Pace [Official] Jaguar I-Pace

[Centurion]

What a RELIEF! It looks like a normal car and not a prolapsing wart(Nissan Leaf mk.I) or like overpriced tupperware(BMW i8/i3).

This will pull a lot of people into Jaguar showrooms. Good for them.

 

[Cashmere]

The iPace makes an interesting noise (1 minute mark):

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[Centurion]

Jaguar can easily sell this car by parking one outside every Tesla dealer. While it has aged well, the Model S is old now and hasn't made leaps in interior quality. The Model X is in some areas over-engineered and can look bulky if you don't need 7 seats.

New Jaguar I-Pace early drive review

 

[EnI]

Unfortunately almost all BEVs bar Tesla are limited in production due to battery supply shortage. Sure everyone is coming up with BEVs but their production is limited to few 10k units per year each, with consequently long waiting queues.

 

[Matski]

Unfortunately almost all BEVs bar Tesla are limited in production due to battery supply shortage. Sure everyone is coming up with BEVs but their production is limited to few 10k units per year each, with consequently long waiting queues.

I also worry that whilst these customers aren't early early adopters, once the mainstream wave starts to hit in a couple of years, this current gen of EV's will seem decidedly decrepit.

 

[Centurion]

this current gen of EV's will seem decidedly decrepit.

That's why these cars should be leased and not bought. Sadly private leasing isn't as widely available in the UK as it is in the US.

However, looking at the EVs ahead in 5-7 years, won't be outdated in acceleration or range. Even the drive train of a Model S from 5 years ago is still competitive in most areas.

Solid state batteries will be a big leap forward but I not counting on them appearing in production cars anytime soon.

 

[EnI]

I also worry that whilst these customers aren't early early adopters, once the mainstream wave starts to hit in a couple of years, this current gen of EV's will seem decidedly decrepit.

That's why these cars should be leased and not bought. Sadly private leasing isn't as widely available in the UK as it is in the US.

However, looking at the EVs ahead in 5-7 years, won't be outdated in acceleration or range. Even the drive train of a Model S from 5 years ago is still competitive in most areas.

Solid state batteries will be a big leap forward but I not counting on them appearing in production cars anytime soon.

The batteries surely are the biggest problem here - the range & the charging times & types of charging. Perhaps range won't be a problem - but newer batteries will be a) smaller & lighter and b) quicker to charge @ same nominal output eg. due to higher energy density. More economical electric motors & lightweight construction will allow lower energy consumption, better performance & longer range eg. at same battery output.

So, sure future BEVs will be better than current ones. But those won't be totally outdated. But after time surely their battery capacity will drop a bit though - hurting range and / or performance (depending on software).

But especially solid state batteries show potential of being more energy dense and being able to be charge at ultra quick powerful level. Then there's ability of inductive charging in the future. Etc.

But there's also the other hardware: more powerful & economical electric engine; Autonomous Driving hardware; digital cockpits; AI-based systems; connectivity & services etc. And the proper software which in some (most?) cases can be updated (at dealerships or even OTA).

And I totally agree: leasing or car-sharing makes much, much more sense than buying a BEV.
Btw, solid state batteries are expected to make a debut between 2024 and 2026 in a production car; 2021 in a series prototype. Currently it seems Toyota & BMW are the field leaders.

 

[EnI]

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[Rainer271]

I like this car.

 

[KiwiRob]

Someone needs to make an electric wagon.

 

[Centurion]

Btw, solid state batteries are expected to make a debut between 2024 and 2026 in a production car

That why I have no problems buying an ICE car next year while I wait for second generation BEVs. Model S and even the I-Pace are generation 1 to me: Too expensive to be economical for private buyers and have limited range.

Hopefully solid state batteries will be cheaper to produce than lithium-ion ones.

 

[Cashmere]

Jaguar SVO can’t wait to get its teeth into EVs

At Geneva, SVO boss John Edwards confirmed his company was relishing the opportunity to redefine what a performance car is with a range of SVO-honed EVs.

“The rules of performance vehicles in a traditional [internal combustion-powered] market are very established and we react to those established rules.

“With electric vehicles, the rules aren’t established at all, so I think it gives us different opportunities,” he said.

https://www.motoring.com.au/jaguar-svo-cant-wait-to-get-its-teeth-into-evs-111534/

 

[sako97]

Fingerprint, smudge, and dust city:

 

[klier]

This will pull a lot of people into Jaguar showrooms...

....in England

 

[KiwiRob]

....in England

The massive amount of pre orders in Norway proves you wrong. It will also pop up all over the Netherlands, since it's a big BEV market as well.

 

[Serpens]

Yeah...I'll wait on the German entries.

 

[SKY]

Fingerprint, smudge, and dust city:

It is beyond me how can a Jaguar, a brand that at some point stood as a quality company, be sold with such a cheap looking interior.

True, some German cars nowadays are also sold with cheap interiors. But, in the case of Jaguar, one really struggles trying to think about a quality Jaguar interior these days.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

I like this car.

I like how @klier disagrees. So does this mean that you don’t like the car now @rs271 ?

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

This interior looks to be a step up from the current XF and maybe on par with the some of the mid-level Germans.

If people want versatility in their U/X, they are going to get touchscreens and the accompanying smudges that go along with it.

 

[Centurion]

Yeah...I'll wait on the German entries.

Like the E-Pace the I Pace exterior is spec sensitive. Light colours in combination with larger alloys are more flattering for it.